Very quiet day for our gun toting rats

[bobblehead]

The best I can do to answer the question of the west is that was a very different time and a very lawless era. I doesn't really equate to a current situation that I can think of. However to think that I would say it was right to make people forfeit their guns at the edge of town isn't necessarily accurate. I didn't live then, I can only read history books and speculate, so i won't try and give you a rock solid answer. I can guess that in a lawless time if you didn't surrender your gun you would be shot down by "law enforcement" and the courts weren't too busy with getting involved. How did we go from owning slaves to where we are today...times change, mostly for the better.

As far as what it says about me and bringing a gun into church...nothing really. I don't go into churches. If the pastor said "we don't want you packin in church" I would stay out...I do respect their rights. Same as if you invited me over but told me no weapon allowed, I have a choice, your way or stay home. I'm not saying I would defy the church, I'm saying I don't get the issue. And I stand by my assertion, those people would have been better off if several of them were packing when the guy with the gun came in.

You say christians aren't supposed to return violence with violence, but I will never get that....its like saying dont' stand up to a bully...guess what, eventually you have to. Like for instance when a guy comes into a church guns a blazin...I think you would have a hard time finding a christian who is against downing him to save lives. Its just not realistic. I'm sure there are shades of grey, like capital punishment after the fact, but violence in defense...hard to be against that.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Lawless: More than today?

Violence: Jesus said turn the other cheek.

[texaspackerbacker]

Are you a believer of EVERYTHING Jesus said, Tyrone? Or only a select few things that seem to support your viewpoint?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Are you a believer of EVERYTHING Jesus said, Tyrone? Or only a select few things that seem to support your viewpoint?

It isn't my view. Nice try though.

[bobblehead]

Lawless: More than today?

Violence: Jesus said turn the other cheek.

Yes, more lawless than today, hands down, like shootouts in the street over a poker game. Like gangs of cattle rustlers riding across the country stealing cattle.

You do understand I'm not a christian and don't care what jesus said right?? I said I would respect a pastor who said he didn't want me to carry in church...by not going in. You can quote jesus all you want but I thought I made my point pretty clearly, let me cut and paste.

You say christians aren't supposed to return violence with violence, but I will never get that....its like saying dont' stand up to a bully...guess what, eventually you have to. Like for instance when a guy comes into a church guns a blazin...I think you would have a hard time finding a christian who is against downing him to save lives. Its just not realistic. I'm sure there are shades of grey, like capital punishment after the fact, but violence in defense...hard to be against that.

There i said it again. Don't throw jesus' words at me when I have already said I disagree, I'm not a christian, and quoting jesus trying to make a point makes you look foolish. If I quoted don hollly as an arguement against your point of view would it mean a damn thing??