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[HowardRoark]

Lucky for me, mine are better than yours.

What does better mean? Is the word better a universal truth?

Nope. Value system.

What are your values based on?

Society, history, culture, etc.

OK, I’m going to share a little tonight. My name is Yehya Ayyash. I am a Palestinian and I go over to Isreael to blow up Jews every other weekend. My history, culture and society have instilled these values in me.*

My values are better than yours.


*I am really not a PLO terrorist. I am making a point with Ty. I barely own a sharp knife....in fact I have a real tough time opening virtually any device packaged in that vacuum sealed plastic stuff that you end up cutting up your hands on the sharp edges once you get it ripped open.

[mraynrand]

Lucky for me, mine are better than yours.

What does better mean? Is the word better a universal truth?

Nope. Value system.

What are your values based on?

Society, history, culture, etc.

So your better value system came from a better society and better culture?

[texaspackerbacker]

Howard, Aynrand, etc., who indeed, are class conscious, elitist, and worthy of SOME--a small part--of the disdain your kind spew about them.

I'd be interested in your expanding on this. Does this go back to your reference of putting me in the Bill Buckley 'Country Club' Republican class. Is that how I come across? I'd love to know.

In a word, YES. If you don't agree, I'd love to know how and why.

I don't need to dispute it. I was just curious. But for more clarity, what do you mean when you say 'class conscious?'

The best and clearest example I can think of is your penchant for political correctness, and your disparagement of what I consider, at least, to be the attitude of the huge majority of America-loving Americans.

Also, there is a prioritizing of and approach to issues, of which yours is pretty drastically different than mine, seemingly in favor of the old liberal stereotype of rich nose-in-the-air Republicans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on 90 or 95% of what you say, though.

[HowardRoark]

The best and clearest example i can think of is your penchant for political correctness, and your disparagement of what I consider, at least, to be the attitude of the huge majority of America-loving Americans.

Also, there is a prioritizing of and approach to issues, of which yours is pretty drastically different than mine, seemingly in favor of the old liberal stereotype of rich nose-in-the-air Republicans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on 90 or 95% of what you say, though.

huh?

[Freak Out]

We have a full gospel circle jerk commencing in three, two, one.....

[mraynrand]

Howard, Aynrand, etc., who indeed, are class conscious, elitist, and worthy of SOME--a small part--of the disdain your kind spew about them.

I'd be interested in your expanding on this. Does this go back to your reference of putting me in the Bill Buckley 'Country Club' Republican class. Is that how I come across? I'd love to know.

In a word, YES. If you don't agree, I'd love to know how and why.

I don't need to dispute it. I was just curious. But for more clarity, what do you mean when you say 'class conscious?'

The best and clearest example I can think of is your penchant for political correctness, and your disparagement of what I consider, at least, to be the attitude of the huge majority of America-loving Americans.

Also, there is a prioritizing of and approach to issues, of which yours is pretty drastically different than mine, seemingly in favor of the old liberal stereotype of rich nose-in-the-air Republicans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on 90 or 95% of what you say, though.

I would have never thought myself guilty of these. I suspect we have different views of what constitute the attitudes of the huge majority of America-loving Americans

[texaspackerbacker]

The best and clearest example i can think of is your penchant for political correctness, and your disparagement of what I consider, at least, to be the attitude of the huge majority of America-loving Americans.

Also, there is a prioritizing of and approach to issues, of which yours is pretty drastically different than mine, seemingly in favor of the old liberal stereotype of rich nose-in-the-air Republicans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on 90 or 95% of what you say, though.

huh?

If that's too complicated for ya, I'll spell it our more clearly. My kind of people, the solid majority of Americans--my "blue collar minions", as Tyrone so eloquently phrased it, I think, have no problem with expressing happiness about Russert kicking off, the overdue demise of Ted Kennedy, and joking about a surgical airstrike of the DNC. That apparently offends your kind. Enough said.

[mraynrand]

We have a full gospel circle jerk commencing in three, two, one.....

We're not interested in what's happening in your house.

[BallHawk]

We have a full gospel circle jerk commencing in three, two, one.....

We're not interested in what's happening in your house.

If Sarah Palin is there we are.

[mraynrand]

The best and clearest example i can think of is your penchant for political correctness, and your disparagement of what I consider, at least, to be the attitude of the huge majority of America-loving Americans.

Also, there is a prioritizing of and approach to issues, of which yours is pretty drastically different than mine, seemingly in favor of the old liberal stereotype of rich nose-in-the-air Republicans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on 90 or 95% of what you say, though.

huh?

If that's too complicated for ya, I'll spell it our more clearly. My kind of people, the solid majority of Americans--my "blue collar minions", as Tyrone so eloquently phrased it, I think, have no problem with expressing happiness about Russert kicking off, the overdue demise of Ted Kennedy, and joking about a surgical airstrike of the DNC. That apparently offends your kind. Enough said.

I hear ya. But there's a huge difference in how you choose to express it and where. When you're in a forum with lots of moderate, you'll turn people off with the death wish stuff. I want to convince people to become more conservative, to come over to my side. That doesn't mean I can't tell it like it is and call guys like Durbin, Murtha, Kerry, etc. worthless politicians.

[texaspackerbacker]

The best and clearest example i can think of is your penchant for political correctness, and your disparagement of what I consider, at least, to be the attitude of the huge majority of America-loving Americans.

Also, there is a prioritizing of and approach to issues, of which yours is pretty drastically different than mine, seemingly in favor of the old liberal stereotype of rich nose-in-the-air Republicans.

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on 90 or 95% of what you say, though.

huh?

If that's too complicated for ya, I'll spell it our more clearly. My kind of people, the solid majority of Americans--my "blue collar minions", as Tyrone so eloquently phrased it, I think, have no problem with expressing happiness about Russert kicking off, the overdue demise of Ted Kennedy, and joking about a surgical airstrike of the DNC. That apparently offends your kind. Enough said.

I hear ya. But there's a huge difference in how you choose to express it and where. When you're in a forum with lots of moderate, you'll turn people off with the death wish stuff. I want to convince people to become more conservative, to come over to my side. That doesn't mean I can't tell it like it is and call guys like Durbin, Murtha, Kerry, etc. worthless politicians.

"Worthless politicians" would be the absolute LEAST I would call those assholes. How could you think otherwise? Or are you just too timid to say it?

Moderates in the forum? I ain't seen any of them animals lately. Could you provide an example or two or three of who you are talking about? Yeah, I suppose there indeed are some who read but do not post. I ask you, who is doing them more justice, you, who tippytoes around and sugar coats things with political correctness--leaving them to be propagandized by the subtle America-hating assholes of the mainstream media? Or me, who validates what they hear every day of their lives in the workplace, in schools, etc. from good normal Americans who don't even see controversy in telling it like it is?

I submit that you are the equivalent of Buckley and I am the equivalent of Rush or Hannity. Who does more to help the pro-American cause?

[mraynrand]

I submit that you are the equivalent of Buckley and I am the equivalent of /Rush or Hannity. Who does more to help the pro-American cause?

I'll accept that. I hope to write some books that guys like Rush and Hannity will read and deliver to the public in a straightforward manner (particularly on the philosophy of science). But I submit to you that I never hear Hannity or Rush celebrate The death of an American lib like Russert, or joke about an airstrike on the dem convention. That's more in Michael Savage territory. What say you?

[Freak Out]

We have a full gospel circle jerk commencing in three, two, one.....

We're not interested in what's happening in your house.

If Sarah Palin is there we are.

Not tonight.

[HowardRoark]

"Worthless politicians" would be the absolute LEAST I would call those assholes.

That’s easy, but what does it accomplish? I think it is much more important to attack the idea.

I happen to think that there is a whole group of people out there that doesn’t really care about the idea, they just don’t ever want to be identified as Conservative….it would not be “cool” (probably not a cool enough word for these folks I admit).