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  • I think that "first dude" will help out a whole lot in OH, PA, MI, WI.......
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    • Originally posted by SkinBasket
      Originally posted by BallHawk
      You don't find Palin's lack of understanding, or even interest, in foreign policy disturbing?
      Maybe you could point to what exactly she doesn't "understand" or find "interesting" about foreign policy? Criticizing her experience in the area is one thing, although she has the same experience as Obama, so I'm not sure why you would want to. Trying to extend that to "understanding" or "interest" is another.
      "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq." --Palin
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      • Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
        Palin, being in Alaska, is closer to Russia everyday than Obama's ever been.
        To quote Jon Stewart

        "When you think about it, Alaska is also near the North Pole, so she must also be friends with Santa."

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        • Originally posted by BallHawk
          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
          Palin, being in Alaska, is closer to Russia everyday than Obama's ever been.
          To quote Jon Stewart

          "When you think about it, Alaska is also near the North Pole, so she must also be friends with Santa."

          That's a funny joke, but if you're using it to make an argument, it's useless.
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          • Originally posted by BallHawk
            Originally posted by SkinBasket
            Originally posted by BallHawk
            You don't find Palin's lack of understanding, or even interest, in foreign policy disturbing?
            Maybe you could point to what exactly she doesn't "understand" or find "interesting" about foreign policy? Criticizing her experience in the area is one thing, although she has the same experience as Obama, so I'm not sure why you would want to. Trying to extend that to "understanding" or "interest" is another.
            "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq." --Palin
            That's called doing your job. Good for her.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • Originally posted by mraynrand
              Originally posted by BallHawk
              Originally posted by SkinBasket
              Originally posted by BallHawk
              You don't find Palin's lack of understanding, or even interest, in foreign policy disturbing?
              Maybe you could point to what exactly she doesn't "understand" or find "interesting" about foreign policy? Criticizing her experience in the area is one thing, although she has the same experience as Obama, so I'm not sure why you would want to. Trying to extend that to "understanding" or "interest" is another.
              "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq." --Palin
              That's called doing your job. Good for her.
              That was my 1st thought.
              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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              • Like Sheepshead said, any conjecture about a president dying is extremely unlikely. Furthermore, any president is going to have the cabinet and advisors around him so that there are no significant differences if the VP has to take over.

                The real question, as always, is how much good/harm will the presidential nominee do if he gets in.

                Obviously, if you like CHANGE in the form of America falling from its position of most powerful and prosperous nation in the world, if you like CHANGE in the form of socialism instead of free enterprise capitalism, if you like CHANGE in the form of higher taxes and the severely dampened economy those higher taxes bring, if you like CHANGE in the form of emphasis of various forms of depravity--abortion, homosexuality, etc., if you like CHANGE in the form of courts inflicting horrendous leftist social and moral changes in our lifestyle without the democratic process being allowed to stand in the way, then Obama is your man.

                If you love America pretty much the way it is--maybe a few minor adjustments in the form of spending cuts, earmarks, etc., but our strength and wealth and lifestyle maintained, then McCain is your man.

                It's as simple as that.
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                • Originally posted by mraynrand
                  Originally posted by BallHawk
                  Originally posted by SkinBasket
                  Originally posted by BallHawk
                  You don't find Palin's lack of understanding, or even interest, in foreign policy disturbing?
                  Maybe you could point to what exactly she doesn't "understand" or find "interesting" about foreign policy? Criticizing her experience in the area is one thing, although she has the same experience as Obama, so I'm not sure why you would want to. Trying to extend that to "understanding" or "interest" is another.
                  "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq." --Palin
                  That's called doing your job. Good for her.
                  I'm not criticizing her for not being an expert on Iraq, just don't pass her off as this great, qualified candidate, that she has experience with Russia and Canada and is versed in foreign affairs. She knows jack squat. How anybody can say she is more knowledgeable about foreign affairs than Obama is a joke. She's never been outside of the country on a trip for political means. Obama isn't the foreign relations guru that Biden is, but he's a helluva lot better than Palin.
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                  • Originally posted by BallHawk
                    Obama isn't the foreign relations guru that Biden is, but he's a helluva lot better than Palin.
                    That's your claim. Let's see you back it up. What are you drawing on for this assessment?
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                    • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                      Like Sheepshead said, any conjecture about a president dying is extremely unlikely.
                      You're saying that a man that would be 72 when he takes office is "extremely unlikely" to die? Is it unlikely? Yes. But at his age, don't tell me that it's out of the question.
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                      • Originally posted by BallHawk
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Originally posted by BallHawk
                        Originally posted by SkinBasket
                        Originally posted by BallHawk
                        You don't find Palin's lack of understanding, or even interest, in foreign policy disturbing?
                        Maybe you could point to what exactly she doesn't "understand" or find "interesting" about foreign policy? Criticizing her experience in the area is one thing, although she has the same experience as Obama, so I'm not sure why you would want to. Trying to extend that to "understanding" or "interest" is another.
                        "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq." --Palin
                        That's called doing your job. Good for her.
                        I'm not criticizing her for not being an expert on Iraq, just don't pass her off as this great, qualified candidate, that she has experience with Russia and Canada and is versed in foreign affairs. She knows jack squat. How anybody can say she is more knowledgeable about foreign affairs than Obama is a joke. She's never been outside of the country on a trip for political means. Obama isn't the foreign relations guru that Biden is, but he's a helluva lot better than Palin.
                        And Obama DOES know jack squat?

                        The fact is, NEITHER of them has one ounce of foreign policy experience. One, however, would be THE primary foreign policy decisionmaker, the other would not.

                        And based on background attitude and statements, one would be starting from a position of disdain, if not outright hate for his country and its position as the most powerful and prosperous in the world, and the other would be starting from a clear love and respect for her country and desire to keep America on top.
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                        • But can we agree that Biden has more foreign policy experience than all 3 of them combined?
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                          • Originally posted by BallHawk
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                            Like Sheepshead said, any conjecture about a president dying is extremely unlikely.
                            You're saying that a man that would be 72 when he takes office is "extremely unlikely" to die? Is it unlikely? Yes. But at his age, don't tell me that it's out of the question.
                            Of course, it's not out of the question, but he could be past his second term and be in better shape than 'ole Strom Thurman who lived out of his hospital room, or Robert Byrd, who is still around and hasn't had a coherent thought in well over two decades, and his last coherent memory is probably burning a cross on some lawn in West Virginia. McCain will be fine, and those who discount him on his age alone are ageist bigots.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • Originally posted by BallHawk
                              But can we agree that Biden has more foreign policy experience than all 3 of them combined?
                              Sure, he's had 35 years to be wrong about just about everything. When do you think Iraq will be partitioned?
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • Originally posted by mraynrand
                                Originally posted by BallHawk
                                Obama isn't the foreign relations guru that Biden is, but he's a helluva lot better than Palin.
                                That's your claim. Let's see you back it up. What are you drawing on for this assessment?
                                He holds a seat on the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. Made official visits to Europe, Asia, and Africa.

                                +1 against Palin.

                                Obama doesn't really have experience abroad, I accept that. I misspoke by saying he has a "helluva" lot more experience than Palin. He has more experience than Palin.
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