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[mraynrand]

"I want you to like me" --- Barack Obama

[mraynrand]

Are you really that slow? It is the Tex post that i'm referring to.

There is no way i can associate myself with that type of small minded attitude, hate, and general wackiness.

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

I guess you're the slow one. Can't pick up on a joke. Tex is a loon, but the left has all the wackos on the Daily Kos who celebrate the demise of conservatives, call for the assassination and/or impeachment of Bush and Cheney, and write books on the subject. You have Ward Churchill, who calls the workers slaughtered in the two towers 'little Eichmanns.' And you choose to associate with them. Their compatriots in the media and entertainment industry (the visible ones) either agree with the loons, or grudgingly disavow them. Guys like Bill Maher, when confronted with Obama's statement that he is a man of faith, respond "I hope he's lying." etc. etc. So enjoy the loons YOU CHOOSE, like Ward Churchill, you little Eichmann.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Are you really that slow? It is the Tex post that i'm referring to.

There is no way i can associate myself with that type of small minded attitude, hate, and general wackiness.

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

I guess you're the slow one. Can't pick up on a joke. Tex is a loon, but the left has all the wackos on the Daily Kos who celebrate the demise of conservatives, call for the assassination and/or impeachment of Bush and Cheney, and write books on the subject. You have Ward Churchill, who calls the workers slaughtered in the two towers 'little Eichmanns.' And you choose to associate with them. Their compatriots in the media and entertainment industry (the visible ones) either agree with the loons, or grudgingly disavow them. Guys like Bill Maher, when confronted with Obama's statement that he is a man of faith, respond "I hope he's lying." etc. etc. So enjoy the loons YOU CHOOSE, like Ward Churchill, you little Eichmann.

If that was a joke..you reinforce the notion that conservs lack a sense of humor. Statements like, "that is silly," hardly qualify as joking.

Calling someone a name..i can live with. Openly advocating death to liberals, kicking them outta the country, etc....can't really live with that.

And, apparently...you and the rest of your elistist, effete conservs are outta touch with your base as per Tex lecture.

We'll be swinging from the trees when Tex has his way, but you and the rest of the intellectual conservs won't last much longer.

[mraynrand]

If that was a joke..you reinforce the notion that conservs lack a sense of humor. Statements like, "that is silly," hardly qualify as joking.

Calling someone a name..i can live with. Openly advocating death to liberals, kicking them outta the country, etc....can't really live with that.

And, apparently...you and the rest of your elistist, effete conservs are outta touch with your base as per Tex lecture.

We'll be swinging from the trees when Tex has his way, but you and the rest of the intellectual conservs won't last much longer.

Ha ha. The joke was, oh never mind. I can survive making a bad joke that a lefty doesn't get.

Ward Churchill said the Little Eichmanns got what they deserved; lefties on daily Kos advocate killing. Tex just says it wouldn't bother him if lefties died. Lefties like Peter Singer say that killing a 2 year old baby isn't a problem, because they aren't aware enough yet to be considered human. Libs also claim to know what's best for everyone else, and they'll get it through by force of law. Including regulating your diet and your smoking habits. eventually, they'll go after all unhealthy habits. Enjoy your brave new world.

But let's go back to Ward Churchill. you say you prefer to hang out with lefty loons. Like A guy who says that the little Eichmanns got what they deserved. Tex specifically referred to anti-american lefties. And while I think he's a loon, at least he sees them as being anti-American. What about all the little Eichmanns in the WTC - were they all categorically anti-American? Or all like Eichmann. or even remotely like Eichmann? Of course not - but Churchill wanted them all dead - according to him they got what they deserved. I'll bet there were a bunch of fallen jews in that crowd. Still feel comfortable hangin' with a guy who was pleased - PLEASED to see all those little Eichmanns, including fallen jews, slaughtered? Feels gooooood, doesn't it, to be in the same camp as Ward Churchill - and to claim that that's somehow better than to be associated with a loon like tex.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If that was a joke..you reinforce the notion that conservs lack a sense of humor. Statements like, "that is silly," hardly qualify as joking.

Calling someone a name..i can live with. Openly advocating death to liberals, kicking them outta the country, etc....can't really live with that.

And, apparently...you and the rest of your elistist, effete conservs are outta touch with your base as per Tex lecture.

We'll be swinging from the trees when Tex has his way, but you and the rest of the intellectual conservs won't last much longer.

Ha ha. The joke was, oh never mind. I can survive making a bad joke that a lefty doesn't get.

Ward Churchill said the Little Eichmanns got what they deserved; lefties on daily Kos advocate killing. Tex just says it wouldn't bother him if lefties died. Lefties like Peter Singer say that killing a 2 year old baby isn't a problem, because they aren't aware enough yet to be considered human. Libs also claim to know what's best for everyone else, and they'll get it through by force of law. Including regulating your diet and your smoking habits. eventually, they'll go after all unhealthy habits. Enjoy your brave new world.

But let's go back to Ward Churchill. you say you prefer to hang out with lefty loons. Like A guy who says that the little Eichmanns got what they deserved. Tex specifically referred to anti-american lefties. And while I think he's a loon, at least he sees them as being anti-American. What about all the little Eichmanns in the WTC - were they all categorically anti-American? Or all like Eichmann. or even remotely like Eichmann? Of course not - but Churchill wanted them all dead - according to him they got what they deserved. I'll bet there were a bunch of fallen jews in that crowd. Still feel comfortable hangin' with a guy who was pleased - PLEASED to see all those little Eichmanns, including fallen jews, slaughtered? Feels gooooood, doesn't it, to be in the same camp as Ward Churchill - and to claim that that's somehow better than to be associated with a loon like tex.

Rand,

Churchill, etc...those guys are off the reservation...just as you would put racists as off the rez. they are no more part of the dem party than KKK members are to the repub.

I don't put them in loon cat..i meant more the benign...peta, etc. types.

P.S. Tex has advocated more than that...i forget which movie he references, but he would have no problem with a military takeover of this country and forcing out people. I'm sure when he sees this he can tell you the movie.

[mraynrand]

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

This is what you wrote, as though you would choose the loons who are equally far to the left as Tex is to the Right. If Ward Churchill is off the liberal/Democrat reservation (pun intended? HA HA), then Tex is off the conservative/Republican reservation - therefore your comment that Tex is the reason you're not a Republican falls apart, because he then in no way represents what Republican are all about.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

This is what you wrote, as though you would choose the loons who are equally far to the left as Tex is to the Right. If Ward Churchill is off the liberal/Democrat reservation (pun intended? HA HA), then Tex is off the conservative/Republican reservation - therefore your comment that Tex is the reason you're not a Republican falls apart, because he then in no way represents what Republican are all about.

Unfortunately for you, you don't understand that the repub party, according to Tex is filled with his types..the blue collar. Tex isn't off the rez...according to him. He is a good normal american. His values represent normal americans.

So, i was referring to the loons within the base of the dem party...abortion rights, socialism, etc.

[mraynrand]

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

This is what you wrote, as though you would choose the loons who are equally far to the left as Tex is to the Right. If Ward Churchill is off the liberal/Democrat reservation (pun intended? HA HA), then Tex is off the conservative/Republican reservation - therefore your comment that Tex is the reason you're not a Republican falls apart, because he then in no way represents what Republican are all about.

Unfortunately for you, you don't understand that the repub party, according to Tex is filled with his types..the blue collar. Tex isn't off the rez...according to him. He is a good normal american. His values represent normal americans.

So, i was referring to the loons within the base of the dem party...abortion rights, socialism, etc.

So you're saying Tex is right about Repubs and is representative - that most Republicans would welcome the death of all the delegates at the DNC. Is that what you believe?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

This is what you wrote, as though you would choose the loons who are equally far to the left as Tex is to the Right. If Ward Churchill is off the liberal/Democrat reservation (pun intended? HA HA), then Tex is off the conservative/Republican reservation - therefore your comment that Tex is the reason you're not a Republican falls apart, because he then in no way represents what Republican are all about.

Unfortunately for you, you don't understand that the repub party, according to Tex is filled with his types..the blue collar. Tex isn't off the rez...according to him. He is a good normal american. His values represent normal americans.

So, i was referring to the loons within the base of the dem party...abortion rights, socialism, etc.

So you're saying Tex is right about Repubs and is representative - that most Republicans would welcome the death of all the delegates at the DNC. Is that what you believe?

I think that is more a question for yourself. Like i said, you effete, intellectual conservs will be second to go.

I'm just happy that as a liberal i can kill any repub that wanders onto my property.

[texaspackerbacker]

First of all, I don't recall the movie reference. Maybe it was somebody else; Maybe I just forgot.

Secondly, there appears to be a factual error here by somebody with the "Little Eichmanns" reference. It sounds like Jews are being called that, when actually, Eichmann was a hyper-murderer of Jews.

I am tempted to say, Tyrone, you are showing more insight here than the pseudo-conservatives who seem so bent on kissing up to the elitist left, if only because of your unhealthy, albeit flattering, pre-occupation with my history of posting. It all fell into place when I realized that you were OTown from JSOnline. I refer to your line about hanging them from the same tree where we hang your sick kind--when "we" take over.

Just the same, while I have virtually no respect you and your sick damned America-hating kind, I do have a fair degree of respect for those in here who generally post degrees of common sense conservatism, but now want to disavow me.

Several months ago, when I first came over to this forum, I posted a long and detailed statement of my positions, and I challenged anybody--particularly the forum leftists--to state how ANY of them could be perceived as extreme or wrong. Of course, not one of the usual leftist posters had the balls to even make an attempt--so typical. Anyway, I address this to Howard, Aynrand, and a few others who are generally on the normal pro-American side of things.

You want to consign me to a position of extremism--basically the conservative equivalent of Ward Churchill--even with the appreciated stipulation that I'm only extreme against perceived anti-Americans? I ask you, WHAT have I ever said or advocated that is all that extreme? How can you--if you are not the effete elitists Tyrone referred to--consider simple normal pro-American positions that I express as extreme? And I ask again, what in the hell is wrong with expressing what probably a large percentage of good normal apolitical America-loving Americans wish--that enemies of America suffer and die? And I further ask you, how can you NOT see the true extremists--those who would bring down the power and prestige of America, those who would CHANGE our economy to socialist, those who disrespect our Judeo-Christian heritage and morality in favor of an agenda of atheism and depravity--as enemies of America?

The left has done a very good job over the past couple of decades of re-defining normalcy and extremism. I would like to think of you guys being able to see through that anti-American crap. It will be interesting to hear your take on this, Howard, Aynrand, etc.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

oh tex, how quickly you forget the massive hardon you have for a 7 Days in May scenario.

Yep, advocating the military topple our gov't is very american.

[texaspackerbacker]

That was an interesting book/movie, and I, indeed, was rooting for the Kirk Douglas side in it. I just didn't recall posting that. I hereby nominate you for the position of Official Texaspackerbacker Historian. Anybody who keeps track of my "massive hardons" can't be all bad.

I'm torn between being pleased and disgusted with your mania for my posts. It seems you know me better than I know myself.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

That was an interesting book/movie, and I, indeed, was rooting for the Kirk Douglas side in it. I just didn't recall posting that. I hereby nominate you for the position of Official Texaspackerbacker Historian. Anybody who keeps track of my "massive hardons" can't be all bad.

I'm torn between being pleased and disgusted with your mania for my posts. It seems you know me better than I know myself.

Proving you are un american. Rooting for the military.

[HowardRoark]

You want to consign me to a position of extremism--basically the conservative equivalent of Ward Churchill--even with the appreciated stipulation that I'm only extreme against perceived anti-Americans? I ask you, WHAT have I ever said or advocated that is all that extreme? How can you--if you are not the effete elitists Tyrone referred to--consider simple normal pro-American positions that I express as extreme? And I ask again, what in the hell is wrong with expressing what probably a large percentage of good normal apolitical America-loving Americans wish--that enemies of America suffer and die? And I further ask you, how can you NOT see the true extremists--those who would bring down the power and prestige of America, those who would CHANGE our economy to socialist, those who disrespect our Judeo-Christian heritage and morality in favor of an agenda of atheism and depravity--as enemies of America?

The left has done a very good job over the past couple of decades of re-defining normalcy and extremism. I would like to think of you guys being able to see through that anti-American crap. It will be interesting to hear your take on this, Howard, Aynrand, etc.

Tex, while I generally agree with you and often times think you present an argument extremely well, the idea that we should kill our political enemies is complete and utter nonsense.

Our country is founded on freedoms….including freedoms to be an atheist, Socialist, etc. I happen to believe that my convictions are so solid that they will win out on their merits, not at the end of a sword. I think that the “loyal opposition” is a concept that will make the truer conviction rise to the top.

This is where I agree with you in concept, not in your means. I do think that the Left has done an extremely good job over the past 50 years or so of taking control of ALL the levers of communication in this country. They have taken over Universities, Public Education, Television, Movies and the News (aka the God Damn MSM assholes). We have at least one generation out there that hasn’t a clue on the basics of freedom, Capitalism, Democracy, history, etc. They sure can put together a compost bin, or empathize with a transgender person, but the rest….not so much. Well, the way Ty has been demeaning Ziggy tonight, maybe my premise is wrong. But he’s old. The point is that maybe we don’t have a "loyal opposition” anymore….just a bunch of zombies chanting stuff like “yes we can!”

Be honest folks, you want Socialism. Period. Say it. If you don’t get it, start reading more books.

I also think that we should have a very strong separation of Church and State. My faith is more important to me than my country (and my country is VERY important to me), but I do not believe that they should be commingled. But, this also involves secular religions such as Naturalism. Why should certain moralities such as what kind of light bulb I use be shoved down my throat. Or, why should I feel ashamed for owning over 30 cylinders? Why do my children have to learn about a bong inspired theory that is flawed on multiple levels that claims to explain the origins of life?

My religion is strong enough to stand on it’s own without a government behind it. Also, the separation of church and state was NOT meant to scrub religion from our society.

I will digress for a little bit here. I also think that EVERY question that comes up in life boils down to whether or not there is a God. Literally everything….so I also think that if there is a true God, you can’t help but have it involved in government. An apropos example would be “thou shalt not kill.” Now I bring this up to you Tex because you claim and allegiance to Christian ideals, yet you want to kill. God commands for you to not kill. He also tells you to “render onto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.” Getting back to my point, if there is not a God who commands to not kill, why shouldn’t we kill? Ty is honest enough to say that all the killing might be part of the culling in the Evolutionary process. Therefore it is not "evil", ergo it must ne O.K. Bullshit I say.

The bottom line Tex is that I think you can actually do a hell of a lot of good just with your ideas. They are RIGHT, yet everything you say is discounted after you rant about killing people. Ideas have consequences, have more faith in your ideas. And, God commands you to not kill. And you claim to believe in God.

[mraynrand]

If i have to choose my loons..i choose the liberal loons.

This is what you wrote, as though you would choose the loons who are equally far to the left as Tex is to the Right. If Ward Churchill is off the liberal/Democrat reservation (pun intended? HA HA), then Tex is off the conservative/Republican reservation - therefore your comment that Tex is the reason you're not a Republican falls apart, because he then in no way represents what Republican are all about.

Unfortunately for you, you don't understand that the repub party, according to Tex is filled with his types..the blue collar. Tex isn't off the rez...according to him. He is a good normal american. His values represent normal americans.

So, i was referring to the loons within the base of the dem party...abortion rights, socialism, etc.

So you're saying Tex is right about Repubs and is representative - that most Republicans would welcome the death of all the delegates at the DNC. Is that what you believe?

I think that is more a question for yourself. Like i said, you effete, intellectual conservs will be second to go.

I'm just happy that as a liberal i can kill any repub that wanders onto my property.

It figures you wouldn't answer. But I guess ultimately I don't care, because your position was best summed up long ago when you touted Sullivan saying that we're no better than anyone else. Except for you. The epitome of pure relativism and elitism.