religion & politics

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

You miss the whole point. IF the were universal why would there be a need to translate.

The point is to make the values accessible. So, that others that don't have them can at least understand them.

[HowardRoark]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

You miss the whole point. IF the were universal why would there be a need to translate.

The point is to make the values accessible. So, that others that don't have them can at least understand them.

Understand what?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

You miss the whole point. IF the were universal why would there be a need to translate.

The point is to make the values accessible. So, that others that don't have them can at least understand them.

Understand what?

Reasoning.

[HowardRoark]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

You miss the whole point. IF the were universal why would there be a need to translate.

The point is to make the values accessible. So, that others that don't have them can at least understand them.

Understand what?

Reasoning.

The "others" do have values, they just aren't your values.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

You miss the whole point. IF the were universal why would there be a need to translate.

The point is to make the values accessible. So, that others that don't have them can at least understand them.

Understand what?

Reasoning.

The "others" do have values, they just aren't your values.

Who said otherwise?

[HowardRoark]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

How do you "translate" a value?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty, get on this will you. Tell him it's laughable to have universal values.

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

How do you "translate" a value?

You don't. You translate the reasoning into values.

Is it that hard to read?

[HowardRoark]

Is it that hard to read?

No. It is easy to read. Hard to follow.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Is it that hard to read?

No. It is easy to read. Hard to follow.

Of course it is..not black and white. We know how you conservs struggle when it isn't simply black 'n white/good vs. evil/we are right, they are wrong.

[HowardRoark]

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

Teach me, oh master of the nuanced grey areas, what this means.

[packinpatland]

Talk about religion and politics.....Biden is a Packer fan....

Biden said the priests at his Catholic school taught him to be a fan of the Green Bay Packers because of their ties to northeast Wisconsin, joking they were "prepared to canonize" coach Vince Lombardi.

On Mondays, he said: "If the Green Bay Packers won, we got out early. If the Green Bay Packers lost, we got more homework. So I'm a Green Bay Packers guy from high school!"

[Tyrone Bigguns]

we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community."

Teach me, oh master of the nuanced grey areas, what this means.

Your mind isn't ready now, young jedi.

I dont' see what you are missing. The context of the quote is that we are now a nation of many diff religions, etc...and that when we (gov't) makes policies they need to be able to translate their (gov) reasoning into values that all can understand.

[LL2]

Talk about religion and politics.....Biden is a Packer fan....

Biden said the priests at his Catholic school taught him to be a fan of the Green Bay Packers because of their ties to northeast Wisconsin, joking they were "prepared to canonize" coach Vince Lombardi.

On Mondays, he said: "If the Green Bay Packers won, we got out early. If the Green Bay Packers lost, we got more homework. So I'm a Green Bay Packers guy from high school!"

He's just trying to get votes in Wis., then next thing you know is that he will be saying the same thing in Chicago and he loves the Bears.

[mraynrand]

Talk about religion and politics.....Biden is a Packer fan....

Biden said the priests at his Catholic school taught him to be a fan of the Green Bay Packers because of their ties to northeast Wisconsin, joking they were "prepared to canonize" coach Vince Lombardi.

On Mondays, he said: "If the Green Bay Packers won, we got out early. If the Green Bay Packers lost, we got more homework. So I'm a Green Bay Packers guy from high school!"

He's just trying to get votes in Wis., then next thing you know is that he will be saying the same thing in Chicago and he loves the Bears.

Sounds like he just wanted less homework. Zounds! The controversy!

[ThunderDan]

it is interesting to see what is going on in Pakistan. That is the bloody front line of the battle within Islam. The bad guys have been gaining the last three years, but at least it appears that the more moderate majority is waking up to the threat. The moderates appear to have suffered from their open alliance with the U.S., but that is changing now.

A prime example of what I've been saying: the evil barbaric fundamentalists are seeking to undo the western-style freedom, prosperity, representative government, etc. I think we've got enough insiders there, though, to keep Pakistan from going down the toilet completely. That had better be the case with their having nukes and all.

You know, a very significant factor in the geopolitics of that whole part of the world is that there are over a billion Muslim-hating Hindus, complete with their own nukes--that wouldn't need too much of an excuse--or green light from us--to pretty much obliterate the Muslim world. I suppose leftists and namby pamby non-leftists too look at that concept with dread or disgust.

Oops. I guess I said something extremist ........ well, I didn't actually say I was for it, did I?

That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile. Let the Middle East nuke itself.

Let's see India's economy gone. Radiation in a lethal level into China. China's economy crippled. Possibly a large majority of the worlds oil radiactive and unusable.

How does that make our world better? Great the Muslims and Hindus are gone but the world as we know it would descend into anarchy.

Note the sarcasm.