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  • #31
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
    Originally posted by LL2
    Originally posted by Tarlam!
    The World is watching very closely. The good news is, the World is in a Win/Win situation. Both candidates are light years better than Dubbya. So, the World gets improvement, no matter who you'all elect.
    Tarlam...does the U.S. political scene get coverage in the press (print and TV media) in Europe and England? What are they saying about Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin?
    That's a good question. Tarlam, I know you have said in the past that Dem/lib candidates get a lot more positive media coverage. Obviously, they would be fascinated by Barak Obama. But with the Palin factor now in play, are most Europeans--media as well as regular people--star-struck with her? Or negative about her because of her generally conservative/pro-American attitude? Or something else altogether?
    Absolutely! The extent of the coverage obviously plays out to how much local news there is. But, the US election is world news topic #1. I've lived in Australia and Europe and both parts of the world are totally tuned into the US Presidential Elections.

    The interesting thing for me is, the world has no bias towards your elections. The press reall call it as they see it.

    Palin has really changed the dynmics of the election. Many Euros are concerned by McCains age. He is one vintage dude. Palin coming in as his backstop has really helped his image in many Euo minds.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman
      Originally posted by sheepshead
      Ty in this case perception is reality. There is no two ways out of this one whatever the intent was.

      I'm not sure he was necessarily being malicious but one thing is certain, he's an arrogant jerk.

      Remember Barry, when you point a finger, three are pointing back at you.

      What would you guys be saying if McCain said something similar about Michelle O?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZd_Y_D-RaA

      Since you seem really knowledgeable about politics, I assume you know that McCain used the same phrase while talking about Hillary's health care plan earlier this year.

      September 09, 2008 8:42 PM

      Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt.

      McCain said Clinton's proposal was “eerily” similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993.

      “I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”

      A common expression, right?

      McCain surely wasn't calling Clinton a pig.

      After all, McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era."


      Now McCain is running an internet ad accusing Obama of a smear for using the same phrase he used against Clinton. Maybe he should accuse Obama of plagiarism instead. Not that I would want to accuse Saint John of hypocrisy or anything...
      It really doesnt matter what you and I think now does it.
      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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      • #33
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
        Originally posted by HowardRoark
        Exactly, and on top of that, you have poll results skewed in favor of Obama because there are so many Hispanics in Colorado (and New Mexico) aren't going to tell the pollsters, but who wouldn't be caught dead voting for a black guy.
        I actually think Barry has to be UP 10 or more points to be even for a variety of reasons, this being one of them.
        Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tarlam!
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
          Originally posted by LL2
          Originally posted by Tarlam!
          The World is watching very closely. The good news is, the World is in a Win/Win situation. Both candidates are light years better than Dubbya. So, the World gets improvement, no matter who you'all elect.
          Tarlam...does the U.S. political scene get coverage in the press (print and TV media) in Europe and England? What are they saying about Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin?
          That's a good question. Tarlam, I know you have said in the past that Dem/lib candidates get a lot more positive media coverage. Obviously, they would be fascinated by Barak Obama. But with the Palin factor now in play, are most Europeans--media as well as regular people--star-struck with her? Or negative about her because of her generally conservative/pro-American attitude? Or something else altogether?
          Absolutely! The extent of the coverage obviously plays out to how much local news there is. But, the US election is world news topic #1. I've lived in Australia and Europe and both parts of the world are totally tuned into the US Presidential Elections.

          The interesting thing for me is, the world has no bias towards your elections. The press reall call it as they see it.

          Palin has really changed the dynmics of the election. Many Euros are concerned by McCains age. He is one vintage dude. Palin coming in as his backstop has really helped his image in many Euo minds.
          Probably because Euro's have seen a hottie lead a country since Margaret Thatcher.

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          • #35
            IMO, the biggest gaffe so far has been Biden PUBLICALLY ADMITING that Clinton would've been a better choice as a VP by Obama.

            All McCain has to do is play that over and over again between now and November, and the election is his. You can't have your VP publically say he was not the best choice...and have any hope of convincing voters that you deserve the presidency.

            Biden = dumbass
            Obama = bigger dumbass for choosing him

            Obama would have the White House locked up right now if his ego wasn't so monstrous that he could have selected Clinton as his VP.

            That is precisely how Ronald Reagan won in 1980...hard fought primary with Bush Sr. but took him as a running mate. Two landslide elections later, Reagan clearly made the smart choice.

            Obama? Not so smart. Why do I want a dumbass like that running the nation? I thought we were looking for a CHANGE from the current dumbass. Guess not. You can put lipstick on a pig...but it is still a dumbass pig.
            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by sheepshead
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
              Originally posted by HowardRoark
              Exactly, and on top of that, you have poll results skewed in favor of Obama because there are so many Hispanics in Colorado (and New Mexico) aren't going to tell the pollsters, but who wouldn't be caught dead voting for a black guy.
              I actually think Barry has to be UP 10 or more points to be even for a variety of reasons, this being one of them.
              Another one of those is that there are a lot of women who wouldn't tell pollsters, but when voting time comes, will vote to get a woman a heartbeat away from the presidency. I mean women who probably wouldn't be voting Republican anyway. They, of course, make up 53% of the voting population, and in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, maybe Minnesota, maybe even Wisconsin, it wouldn't take many to tip the scales.

              In addition, the Dems say men are switching to Obama, compensating for women going to McCain. I can just see union guys up north saying no way I'll vote for that woman--then turning around and doing it. Ain't the secret ballot wonderful!
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              • #37
                Ok, talking with a friend who pays attention to politiking south of the border, and he said the feeling is that the reason Obama didn't pick Clinton as a running mate was because he didn't want Bill back in the White House - it would be a monster shadown, especially early in the term. Who's going to tell Bill he can't attend a meeting? Who's chair is that in the oval office - a guy who had it for 8yrs, or the guy who's been there for 8 minutes?

                On another note, we're having our own federal election in these parts. The Conservatives just ran an add showing a pigeon pooping on the Liberal leader's head.
                --
                Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                • #38
                  Those pigeons can really be insightful.

                  Clinton's having Obama for lunch today. Or should i say, they had lunch together.

                  You mentioned the downside of having Clinton (Bill) around the White House. The upside is maybe getting some of Bill's leftovers. :P
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                    Originally posted by HowardRoark
                    Exactly, and on top of that, you have poll results skewed in favor of Obama because there are so many Hispanics in Colorado (and New Mexico) aren't going to tell the pollsters, but who wouldn't be caught dead voting for a black guy.
                    I think I found the poll that addresses this...
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                      Originally posted by HowardRoark
                      Exactly, and on top of that, you have poll results skewed in favor of Obama because there are so many Hispanics in Colorado (and New Mexico) aren't going to tell the pollsters, but who wouldn't be caught dead voting for a black guy.
                      I think I found the poll that addresses this...
                      http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080906/...tIO04AzgWt8c8F
                      I think that's a no brainer that racist will not be voting for Obama. I think Condoleeza Rice should've run for president. We would've had the first African-American and woman as president!

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                      • #41
                        How is it somehow racist when white people (or Hispanics) vote for the white guy, but it's NOT racist when the black people vote for the black guy?

                        Arguably, the huge majority of those white and Hispanics are just voting FOR the person who REFLECTS their own views and values and AGAINST the guy who is so blatantly against their views and values.

                        Black people, on the other hand, vote in 90% + numbers for the candidates who are diametrically opposed to their own views and values. How many black people do you know that are FOR the gay agenda, abortion, and all the other sick perversions that Democrats routinely support? How many black people want HIGHER taxes--and the resultant worse economy? How many black people have a rotten Michelle Obama-like attitude toward their country? How many black people WANT America to pull out of a war we are winning--that many of their sons and daughters have fought and sacrificed for?

                        I wouldn't accuse those 90% + black people voting Democrat of being racist, though. I WOULD, however, accuse their "slave overseers"--the black "leaders" who keep those black people down on the liberal "plantation" of being racist or worse.
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                        • #42
                          Well, the recent Gallup Poll has the McCain lead from 5% just a week ago to 2%. Put Obama back on the grill, he's apparently not done yet.
                          All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                            Well, the recent Gallup Poll has the McCain lead from 5% just a week ago to 2%. Put Obama back on the grill, he's apparently not done yet.
                            This thing will not be decided until Election Night. The press will do what they always do, report on the most favorable exit polling in the East and hope that voters in the West will follow their lead.

                            I wish the crazy thing was over by tomorrow. It's going to be a long 50 days. Enough already!

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                            • #44
                              No one's concerned that Palin's woefully inexperienced?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by th87
                                No one's concerned that Palin's woefully inexperienced?
                                Obama was in Washington for only 1 year before he started running for office. He has no management experience, and limited experience overall.

                                I think it is RIDICULOUS that we have people as unqualified as Palin and Obama running for the White House. I value Palin's leadership role as governor and mayor more than OBama's legislative stints, but she is a joke too. Fortunately she is just a VP, who at most will be called-upon to be a caretaker for a couple years in the event of death.

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