Students Confess To Hanging Obama in Effigy

[mraynrand]

Yeah, it reveals that I'm not going to ignore evidence in hopes of exonerating these kids. I've enumerated everything we know above. Looks suspiciously similar to a lynching.

Your intellectual dishonesty is noted though.

I mentioned in my first post that I thought it could have been a simulated lynching. I have no intention of exonerating the kids. I am skeptical though, since there is very little information. As far as calling me dishonest, let me be refreshingly honest: fuck you.

I didn't call you dishonest. I said you are possessing intellectual dishonesty with respect to this situation, which ultimately is my opinion.
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I respectfully disagree.

[texaspackerbacker]

What if the lynch mob hangs some guy that his ex falsely accused. I am all for punishing rapists and murderers to the fullest extent of the law. I am also all for due process and hanging only the guilty parties.

Have we now progressed beyond calling this racism? If so, good.

If they get an occasional falsely accused person, I suppose that's bad--about 1/10,000 as bad as the repeats of the crime done by guilty who get off on technicalities or just by not getting caught. And you can multiply that fraction by the miniscule fraction of falsely accused who are convicted or lynched compared to guilty who get off.

Here again, I empathize with the victims/prosecutors/lynchers, while you apparently empathize with the falsely accused. Whatever!

You know, even most who are FALSELY accused are guilty of something else or at very least, are in some place they shouldn't be.

[th87]

"Nobody"? Try "all of the leftists in this forum".

I don't know who in the hell Emmett Till is. What do you see in my post that is remotely like "blaming rape victims"?

Arguably, the solid majority of lynchings WEREN'T even examples of racism. A solid minority, if not a majority weren't even black, and many of both black and white victims were merely examples of crime and over-zealous/premature punishment.

I'm surprised you don't know who Emmett Till was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

Landmark civil rights issue. Maybe you'd be more sympathetic to the movement if you read up on what was happening at the time. Lynchings during that time period happened just because people were Black. There are many, many documented cases of this. Any Black History book would tell you everything you'd need to know.

I challenge your notion that lynchings weren't examples of racism, and that there were more White victims. Seems completely unsubstantiated.

[th87]

A black person murders or rapes a white person. A mob of white people catch the black person, ignore due process, and hang the black person from the nearest tree.

Is THAT "racism" to you, Ziggy? th87?, any of the rest of you leftists?

When I say "crime and over-zealous/premature punishment", that is what I mean.

Could be. Did the color of the perpetrator's skin spark the zeal which caused this mob to lynch said perpetrator? If yes, that's racism.

If they would've lynched the perpetrator regardless of his color, then no, not necessarily racism.

However, most lynchings occurred against innocent Black people, where their "crime" was simply being Black.

[mraynrand]

"Nobody"? Try "all of the leftists in this forum".

I don't know who in the hell Emmett Till is. What do you see in my post that is remotely like "blaming rape victims"?

Arguably, the solid majority of lynchings WEREN'T even examples of racism. A solid minority, if not a majority weren't even black, and many of both black and white victims were merely examples of crime and over-zealous/premature punishment.

I'm surprised you don't know who Emmett Till was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

Landmark civil rights issue. Maybe you'd be more sympathetic to the movement if you knew what was happening. Lynchings during that time period happened just because people were Black. There are many, many documented cases of this. Any Black History book would tell you everything you'd need to know.

I challenge your notion that lynchings weren't examples of racism, and that there were more White victims. Seems completely unsubstantiated.

I hope a white history book would tell us the same thing.

Anyway, it seems like there is some talking past each other here. As in there were lynchings that were brought about by mobs executing justice and there were lynchings that were racially motivated, exclusively. Very few whites were lynched by black mobs for racial reasons.

[Kiwon]

Halloween display aims for 'shock value'

An Obama supporter sets up a Halloween display in his front yard showing McCain as a Klan member with a club chasing Obama

The local NAACP head says that the display is "innocuous" and "appears friendly to me."

http://www.stargazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081014/NEWS01/810140328&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

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ocho-siete,

Would it be okay for someone to set up to Halloween display depicting Obama as a Muslim terrorist aiming a rifle at McCain?

How about a scene where Obama is getting ready to behead McCain?

Would such a display be racist or innocuous?

[mraynrand]

Halloween display aims for 'shock value'

An Obama supporter sets up a Halloween display in his front yard showing McCain as a Klan member with a club chasing Obama

There's nothing wrong with depictions of reality. What is the controversy here? Now if 'McCain' had fishing line, look out!

[HowardRoark]

Maybe they should portray a porn movie with Sarah Palin as the star. No, that would be too outrageous. We would never do something like that in our "enlightened" culture. Especially how far we have come over the past 30 years concerning "Women's Issues.

Sorry for even brinigng it up.....that would never happen in the U.S.A.

[Zool]

Halloween display aims for 'shock value'

An Obama supporter sets up a Halloween display in his front yard showing McCain as a Klan member with a club chasing Obama

There's nothing wrong with depictions of reality. What is the controversy here? Now if 'McCain' had fishing line, look out!

Wow really? Both are equally stupid and narrow minded but I guess its OK if you think one is OK but the other isn't.

People suck.

[mraynrand]

Halloween display aims for 'shock value'

An Obama supporter sets up a Halloween display in his front yard showing McCain as a Klan member with a club chasing Obama

There's nothing wrong with depictions of reality. What is the controversy here? Now if 'McCain' had fishing line, look out!

Wow really? Both are equally stupid and narrow minded but I guess its OK if you think one is OK but the other isn't.

People suck.

Clearly McCain is a racist, since he's running against Obama. He doesn't want a black man to be president. So it's pretty easy to believe he's a clansman.

[mraynrand]

Maybe they should portray a porn movie with Sarah Palin as the star. No, that would be too outrageous. We would never do something like that in our "enlightened" culture. Especially how far we have come over the past 30 years concerning "Women's Issues.

Sorry for even brinigng it up.....that would never happen in the U.S.A.

Sarah Palin is a cunt. That's what the libs at the McCain Palin rallies think. Depicting her in a porn movie portrays a positive image of her, in comparison.

[3irty1]

At first I thought this was an unmistakable act of racism. After reading the story though I have my doubts.

From the Act Six website:

"Act Six is a leadership and scholarship program that connects urban ministries and faith-based colleges in order to equip emerging urban leaders to engage the college campus and their communities at home"

What are they really calling Obama by labeling him an "Act Six Reject?" The signage itself doesn't seem race related to me.

The other thing that makes me wonder is why on Earth if you are trying to symbolize an act of racist violence do you use fishing line?

I'm not all that political so don't take this as me suggesting that the "Author's biased is showing." There was still a black guy hanging from a tree and these kids should have been smart enough to realize what people would think. They are either crappy at being racist and making political statements or just crappy at making political statements. I just think its very possible that this whole thing sounds worse than it was.

[Zool]

Depicting a black man hanging from a tree is like depicting a Jewish person waving at you from a huge furnace. Its very clear whats in tended to me.

[3irty1]

Depicting a black man hanging from a tree is like depicting a Jewish person waving at you from a huge furnace. Its very clear whats in tended to me.

Not always true!

[Zool]

Ha nice one.