The Official VP Debate Thread

[LL2]

I think more people will watch this VP debate than any other. Sarah Palin brings that "it" or intrigue factor. Most VP debates have little or no bearing on who wins the presidency, but I think this one will be different. I will go out on a limb and say that this debate will give McCain one more boost in the polls prior to election day. If I'm wrong I will get one of these from PIP, or worse one of these from Tyrone, but unlike Tyrone at least I will not be afraid to admit I'm wrong down the road. Hey, if she is going to be a game changer tonight is her chance.

[Cheesehead Craig]

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Hey, if she is going to be a game changer tonight is her chance.

+1

This is it for her. If she can bring it tonight she'll get a lot more respect and it may start to move things towards McCain.

[texaspackerbacker]

Speaking as OBJECTIVELY as I can, McCain did very little to distinguish his views and positions from Obama's. Palin WILL spell out a large and obvious distinction between her views, values, and positions, and those of obama/Biden. For better or worse, the people watching this debate--and there is every indication that there will be a lot of them--will have a clear choice.

(Now leaving OBJECTIVITY MODE), I've been saying all along, McCain/Palin--PARTICULARLY Palin are MUCH more in tune with the vast majority of America. Assuming she articulates her positions well, that will be proven by polls in days to come, and especially on Nov. 4.

[Jimx29]

I'm confident that the debate will be many times funnier that "The Office" that's it's interrupting......

[MadScientist]

She's likely to do well enough to stop the bleeding for McCain, but she won't reverse things. Now that the hoopla of the conventions and selections are over, the changeable votes may vote against a VP,but it's the top of the ticket that the'll vote for.

[Kiwon]

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Hey, if she is going to be a game changer tonight is her chance.

+1

This is it for her. If she can bring it tonight she'll get a lot more respect and it may start to move things towards McCain.

It's 2 against 1 with Gwen Ifill on stage asking the questions so if Sarah Palin does well then it will be a significant accomplishment.

But, no matter what happens we know the chattering class will spin it for Obama/Biden.

For example, like clockwork, every day USA Today's front page has at least one headline article promoting Obama and one headline article diminishing McCain. Every day.

Often the McCain story really doesn't have that much negative in it, BUT the writer chooses the negative part to fashion into the featured headline. The result is that the casual reader (the majority of readers) who don’t read the inside story for the context only reads the negative headline. Mission accomplished by USA Today.

This election is largely about the arrogance of the media who believe that they are kingmakers. Obama/Biden and the Democratic Party are their friends and they are calculatedly in sync to see them in power.

Journalism is an honorable profession but journalists of this generation have wedded themselves to a far-left ideology and this election is as much of a referendum on them and their influence as it is anything else.

[HowardRoark]

The first words out of Katie’s mouth after the debate; “the headline tonight is that Sarah Palin did not embarrass herself.”

Hopefully the headline soon will be:

Katie Couric finally fired at CBS; a miserable failure and waste of money

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, the media seems to be saying good things about her.

I thought she was OK. Like McCain, she played to the nation, not so much to the conservative base. I suppose that's why I'm not more enthusiastic.

Two times, she had the opportunity to confront the horrors of liberalism, and she did not. One was when Biden was so dogmatic about the cause of global warming--she passed on arguing the point. The other was when Biden actually bragged about Borking Judge Bork and promoting sinister judicial activism--having the GALL to oppose Republican judicial appointees on partisan political grounds. I REALLY wish she had chastized Biden severely for that.

It's kinda like when you really want your team to go for it on 4th down, and then they don't--and you end up winning the game.

Sarah Palin was aiming at moderates and undecided voters. I guess that's a good thing. I'm just a little bit disappointed--like when it's 4th and 1 at mid field and the punter comes out.

[Kiwon]

It was a good debate. Both did okay.

Fortunately, Ifill was on her best behavior.

Other than Sarah Palin giving a pass to the government for the current financial mess, she did very well.

I predict the vilification of her will increase now that she's 2 for 2 in making a speech on the national stage.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Wow. Who knew Mac and Palin were populists.

I heard Palin is Tom Joad's first cousin on her mom's side.

[HowardRoark]

Wow. Who knew Mac and Palin were populists.

Let's see....average Americans vs. Elites, hmmmm, I guess everyone but you knew this.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I thought both of them did a very good job overall. This was labelled to be a "gaffe fest" before it started but I really didn't see anything major on those during the debate. Palin said too many slogans instead of answers at times. That would really be my only criticsm of hers. Biden was really reigning himself in and you could tell he wanted to just keep going. He seemed stilted with his answers at the end of some questions on occasion because of that.

Neither candidate did anything to hurt their party. For the VP debates, that's the best you can hope for.

[MadScientist]

Wow. Who knew Mac and Palin were populists.

Let's see....average Americans vs. Elites, hmmmm, I guess everyone but you knew this.

Your comparison only makes sense if your are looking at intelligence. I'll take the elite brains of Obama and Biden over the average (or below) of McCain and Palin.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Wow. Who knew Mac and Palin were populists.

Let's see....average Americans vs. Elites, hmmmm, I guess everyone but you knew this.

Yeah, you are right. I'm sure the corp fat cats contributing to Mac are thrilled by this.

[HowardRoark]

Wow. Who knew Mac and Palin were populists.

Let's see....average Americans vs. Elites, hmmmm, I guess everyone but you knew this.

Yeah, you are right. I'm sure the corp fat cats contributing to Mac are thrilled by this.

Do you live under a rock? Obama gets the Fat Cat money AND the Elite Hollywood money.