Gun Sales soar!

[retailguy]

Perhaps you should ask that question of the NRA.
An Uzi submachine gun.................come on, show me where any one needs one.

So, under your logic, anything that is dangerous without a "defined purpose" should be banned. Ok, who gets to "define" the "defined purpose"?

I want to "define" the purpose for alcohol, specifically WINE. I propose that more kids are killed each year from unsupervised consumption of WINE, than are killed by an uzi each year.

I "define" that WINE should be banned. Immediately. Too many children are dying because they haven't been to appropriate "wine safety classes", nor have they waited the requisite number of years for legal wine consumption.

After all, it's the FAULT of the WINE, not the process/procedure/laws that are already in place...

[HowardRoark]

come on, show me where any one needs one.

Hell, we’re plotting the succession as we speak. They might come in handy when we storm Alaska.

[Freak Out]

come on, show me where any one needs one.

Hell, we’re plotting the succession as we speak. They might come in handy when we storm Alaska.

You stay the fuck out of here Roark...there is only room for one perfect example of the virtuous human male.

[packinpatland]

Perhaps you should ask that question of the NRA.
An Uzi submachine gun.................come on, show me where any one needs one.

So, under your logic, anything that is dangerous without a "defined purpose" should be banned. Ok, who gets to "define" the "defined purpose"?

I want to "define" the purpose for alcohol, specifically WINE. I propose that more kids are killed each year from unsupervised consumption of WINE, than are killed by an uzi each year.

I "define" that WINE should be banned. Immediately. Too many children are dying because they haven't been to appropriate "wine safety classes", nor have they waited the requisite number of years for legal wine consumption.

After all, it's the FAULT of the WINE, not the process/procedure/laws that are already in place...

I've searched and searched I can't find anything that has been written about the redeemable value of an Uzi..........



Wine was created from the beginning to make men joyful, and not to make men drunk. Wine drunk with moderation is the joy of soul and the heart.
Ecclesiastes 31:35-36

Eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart.
Ecclesiastes 9:7

He makes grass grow for the cattle,
and plants for man to cultivate-
bringing forth food from the earth:
wine that gladdens the heart of man,
oil to make his face shine,
and bread that sustains his heart.
The trees of the Lord are well watered,
the cedars of Lebanon that he planted.
Psalm 104

Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
Timothy 5:23

He who loves not wine, women and song remains a fool his whole life long.
Martin Luther, German theologian, (1483-1546)
Beer is made by men, Wine by God.
Martin Luther, German founder of Lutheranism, (1483-1546)

Who does not love wine, women, and song, remains a fool his whole life long.
Martin Luther, German founder of Lutheranism, (1483-1546)

Wine is at the head of all medicines; where wine is lacking, drugs are necessary.
The Talmud

[retailguy]

I've searched and searched I can't find anything that has been written about the redeemable value of an Uzi..........

Again, I reiterate. WHO gets to define "redeeming value"? It would seem that an Uzi, in the hands of someone whom society views as "responsible" causes NO harm and no threat.

Under the constitution, which I've lived under since birth, I was granted several personal "freedoms". With those freedoms come "responsibility". I can handle the "responsibility" so that kind of negates your "redeemable value" perspective.

As to wine, if it's killing kids, the benefit is far outweighed by the detriment. It is humorous the lengths we will go to in order to keep something we enjoy and don't find dangerous. All those bible verses you talk about talk about the "use" of wine in a "responsible sense". There are also several verses where it talks about people who use wine in a "non-responsible" fashion. Curious that you didn't cite those, as they back the UZI argument quite well....

I don't even own a gun, and don't want one. That being said, I've never seen a gun that killed someone, every gun that was "involved" in killing someone had a person behind it.... I am on your side with regard to holding those fingers on the trigger responsible, as I am in holding those who provide/buy alchohol to minors responsible, but banning? STUPID.

I reiterate AGAIN. WHO gets to decide? YOU? ME? The chosen one? WHO? It is really a simple question.

I would maintain that "I" need to define what is appropriate in my life. I'm not excited about "The chosen One" or anyone else doing so. I'll take the responsibility that comes with the freedom to choose, and am willing to suffer the repercussions of a poor choice. What say you?

[packinpatland]

Like you, I don't own a gun. My husband, father, brother,brother-in-laws, siter-in-law do. I have freezer that is half full of venison and moose meat. I am not advocating doing away with guns. I just don't see why we need those kinds (Uzi) of guns.

[retailguy]

Like you, I don't own a gun. My husband, father, brother,brother-in-laws, siter-in-law do. I have freezer that is half full of venison and moose meat. I am not advocating doing away with guns. I just don't see why we need those kinds (Uzi) of guns.

And I don't see why we need those "kinds" of wine that appeal to children.


Where does this stop, and again, WHO gets to make that call?

[SkinBasket]

Like you, I don't own a gun. My husband, father, brother,brother-in-laws, siter-in-law do. I have freezer that is half full of venison and moose meat. I am not advocating doing away with guns. I just don't see why we need those kinds (Uzi) of guns.

As nutz pointed out. All guns are rather simple mechanisms and they can all kill you. Just like all knives can kill you. Should we also legislate the maximum blade length, shape, and sharpness on all knives? Should any knife that falls outside of the 'useful' measurements be destroyed and their possession made illegal?

[Zool]

I believe that line was drawn when fully automatic weapons were outlawed for the public.

[Deputy Nutz]

I believe that line was drawn when fully automatic weapons were outlawed for the public.

And the next step, ban on semi-autos, bastards.

[mraynrand]

A lawn mower can kill as well. I have pictures to prove it. Oh, GOD Dad, I'm SORRY!

[MJZiggy]

Perhaps you should ask that question of the NRA.
An Uzi submachine gun.................come on, show me where any one needs one.

A toilet... come on show me where any one needs one.

Yeah thats the same fucking thing. Assuming you hit people over the heads with toilets with the intent of "protecting your family".

Tard.

The argument isn't about killing people with toilets. The argument is about needing something. I propose we also do away with vehicles. They are very dangerous. And electricity. Refrigerators and fire are on my watch list.

When my son was 8, I didn't let him drive lest he kill someone (or himself) with the car. I didn't let him wire things lest he electrocute himself. I don't see the real problem with the fridge, though I taught him not to climb in and he's not allowed to play with fire. While no, I really don't see the need for people to have Uzis, there is a real difference between between necessity and stupidity. The gun may be legal, but that was an absolutely idiotic thing to do with it.

[retailguy]

but that was an absolutely idiotic thing to do with it.

WE AGREE ON SOMETHING! Praise the Lord.

I absolutely think that having an 8 year old fire an automatic weapon is CRIMINAL.

But why take the gun away from other law abiding people, because an occasional idiot can't be responsible? Isn't that also criminal in a different way?

I can't get this question answered, nor, can I get the question answered of WHO is to make these decisions? Last I checked, we didn't have a dictator.

[SkinBasket]

Perhaps you should ask that question of the NRA.
An Uzi submachine gun.................come on, show me where any one needs one.

A toilet... come on show me where any one needs one.

Yeah thats the same fucking thing. Assuming you hit people over the heads with toilets with the intent of "protecting your family".

Tard.

The argument isn't about killing people with toilets. The argument is about needing something. I propose we also do away with vehicles. They are very dangerous. And electricity. Refrigerators and fire are on my watch list.

When my son was 8, I didn't let him drive lest he kill someone (or himself) with the car. I didn't let him wire things lest he electrocute himself. I don't see the real problem with the fridge, though I taught him not to climb in and he's not allowed to play with fire. While no, I really don't see the need for people to have Uzis, there is a real difference between between necessity and stupidity. The gun may be legal, but that was an absolutely idiotic thing to do with it.

And like your examples an uzi, or any other sub-machine gun, was not made to be fired by an 8 year old. Just as cars are not designed to be driven by 8 year olds. Just like you don't see many 8 year old electricians mucking about. It's not the mechanism being used that is at fault, it is how it is being used. As you say, "that was an absolutely idiotic thing to do with it." Someone is using it in an idiotic fashion. The it is not using the person.

[MJZiggy]

Skin, quit fighting with me, I'm agreeing with you. I don't personally see the need for an Uzi, but I haven't said anything abouat banning them either. The person who put the thing in the hands of an 8-year-old should be...I can't even think of what should happen to him.

RG, I seem to recall another thing we agreed on--actually a couple things.

Has anyone with the actual power to take guns away from anyone suggested doing it?

And lastly, in the article about gun ownership on the rise, that was a Post article and all the shops were around here, but what the article failed to mention was that DC just lifted a gun ban which in itself will inflate the market a bit I would think.