The Numinous Negro

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've been doing a quick study on National Journal scores, vis a vis the comment that whomever the Dems put up is the "most liberal." And in fact it's true...

Kerry WAS the most liberal senator in 2003.

But there's a simple explanation for this. When a Dem knows he's going to run for president, he needs to get the kook, left-wing base on board in the primaries. So he has to tack left.

Apparently you dont' really know how to study or research as the NJ repudiated it's own results because of flawed data.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The most liberal senator is the biggest canard.

Any ranking that has Obama #1 over Sanders is laughable.

Amazing how each time a dem runs for prez he is the most liberal.

Bernie Sanders??? Congressman Bernie Sanders??? The Socialist Congressman Bernie Sanders???

Obama isn't liberal... he's a Marxist nut. I don't even have to make the case - he's made it all on his own.

Like most things..you can't even get the basics right. It is Senator Sanders.

And, to put Obama as more liberal than Sanders is hilarious.

No wonder the repubs are losing the senate and congress..you guys can't even figure out what is reality.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

But there's a simple explanation for this. When a Dem knows he's going to run for president, he needs to get the kook, left-wing base on board in the primaries. So he has to tack left.

Or the republican base anticipates who the most likely Democratic candidate will be and skews the stats to make the nominee the most liberal senator.

Because, of course, Obama is more liberal than a self-described Socialist.

No way Ballhawk. I'm sure the reason that the NJ released only Obama and Clinton earlier than all the other Senators was pure happenstance.

[HowardRoark]

The most liberal senator is the biggest canard.

Any ranking that has Obama #1 over Sanders is laughable.

Amazing how each time a dem runs for prez he is the most liberal.

Bernie Sanders??? Congressman Bernie Sanders??? The Socialist Congressman Bernie Sanders???

Obama isn't liberal... he's a Marxist nut. I don't even have to make the case - he's made it all on his own.

Like most things..you can't even get the basics right. It is Senator Sanders.

And, to put Obama as more liberal than Sanders is hilarious.

No wonder the repubs are losing the senate and congress..you guys can't even figure out what is reality.

con·gress·man (kŏng'grĭs-mən) Pronunciation Key
n. A man who is a member of the U.S. Congress, especially of the House of Representatives.

You are wrong Ty.

[wist43]

The most liberal senator is the biggest canard.

Any ranking that has Obama #1 over Sanders is laughable.

Amazing how each time a dem runs for prez he is the most liberal.

Bernie Sanders??? Congressman Bernie Sanders??? The Socialist Congressman Bernie Sanders???

Obama isn't liberal... he's a Marxist nut. I don't even have to make the case - he's made it all on his own.

Like most things..you can't even get the basics right. It is Senator Sanders.

And, to put Obama as more liberal than Sanders is hilarious.

No wonder the repubs are losing the senate and congress..you guys can't even figure out what is reality.

I stand corrected... shows you how much I pay attention to "the game". Hadn't even noticed he had been elected Senator in 2006. Pitiful commentary on the citizens of Vermont. 16 years as a Congressman was bad enough.

That said, and as I've said, I'm not a Republican; and, in general, I don't get caught up in "the game". The "basics" as you say, are not keeping up with politics, the "basics" are contained in the Constitution... something no democrat has any reverence for whatsoever.

The Constitution is the most anti-Socialist document ever written. That is a "basic" fact that every democrat has to run from.

[bobblehead]

But there's a simple explanation for this. When a Dem knows he's going to run for president, he needs to get the kook, left-wing base on board in the primaries. So he has to tack left.

Or the republican base anticipates who the most likely Democratic candidate will be and skews the stats to make the nominee the most liberal senator.

Because, of course, Obama is more liberal than a self-described Socialist.

False....we all were 100% convinced that Hillary would be the nominee in 2007.

[BallHawk]

But there's a simple explanation for this. When a Dem knows he's going to run for president, he needs to get the kook, left-wing base on board in the primaries. So he has to tack left.

Or the republican base anticipates who the most likely Democratic candidate will be and skews the stats to make the nominee the most liberal senator.

Because, of course, Obama is more liberal than a self-described Socialist.

False....we all were 100% convinced that Hillary would be the nominee in 2007.

The NJ's rankings came out Janury 31st, 2008. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that by this time Obama's lead in the primaries and strong momentum didn't have "100%" of us convinced Hillary would be the nominee.

[BallHawk]

Bump for an answer.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The most liberal senator is the biggest canard.

Any ranking that has Obama #1 over Sanders is laughable.

Amazing how each time a dem runs for prez he is the most liberal.

Bernie Sanders??? Congressman Bernie Sanders??? The Socialist Congressman Bernie Sanders???

Obama isn't liberal... he's a Marxist nut. I don't even have to make the case - he's made it all on his own.

Like most things..you can't even get the basics right. It is Senator Sanders.

And, to put Obama as more liberal than Sanders is hilarious.

No wonder the repubs are losing the senate and congress..you guys can't even figure out what is reality.

con·gress·man (kŏng'grĭs-mən) Pronunciation Key
n. A man who is a member of the U.S. Congress, especially of the House of Representatives.

You are wrong Ty.

Really? Perhaps your ODS cleared out the results of the 06 elections.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: The Numinous Negro

Why the absolutely irrational, uncritical support for a four year senator

he is not a 4 year senator. He was a Senator for 1 year, since then he's been almost entirely a presidential candidate, with all of his positions molded for a campaign.

oh well, maybe it just means America is a great country, the land of upward mobility.

[bobblehead]

But there's a simple explanation for this. When a Dem knows he's going to run for president, he needs to get the kook, left-wing base on board in the primaries. So he has to tack left.

Or the republican base anticipates who the most likely Democratic candidate will be and skews the stats to make the nominee the most liberal senator.

Because, of course, Obama is more liberal than a self-described Socialist.

False....we all were 100% convinced that Hillary would be the nominee in 2007.

The NJ's rankings came out Janury 31st, 2008. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that by this time Obama's lead in the primaries and strong momentum didn't have "100%" of us convinced Hillary would be the nominee.

Ok, got me..we rigged the game, obama is a moderate. The reason the most liberal guy gets the nomination is because the party is run by radicals....not because the evil conservatives rigged the ranking system. I didn't realize that the "rankings" came out in 2008, but it WAS based on the votes of 2007. If obama isn't the most liberal senator by some ranking you can come up with post it. I don't care if bernie sanders is more liberal or not, obama is a way leftwinger and trying to change the arguement to "The game was rigged" is just silly.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/media-credibility/?ref=opinion\n

[Harlan Huckleby]

Obama has gotten a big boost in three areas of media: news, opinion and entertainment. I think the news has been the fairest of the three, although Obama certainly has been propped-up against both Hillary Clinton and McCain with selective coverage. The breathless coverage of the Great Man blessing the adoring europeans, or the fawning over the Messiah's diversionary speech on race are two good examples.

The killer has been all the talk shows that obsessively skewered McCain as a befuddled old man and Hillary Clinton as the wicked witch of the west. Any "criticisms" of Obama from the entertainment shows have been cutesy and affectionate.