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  • #16
    Originally posted by Partial
    So you're a socialist.
    From Wikipedia:

    Social liberalism: Arose in the late 19th century in many developed countries, influenced by the utilitarianism of Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. Some liberals accepted, in part or in whole, Marxist and socialist exploitation theory and critiques of "the profit motive", and concluded that government should use its power to remedy these perceived problems. According to the tenets of this form of liberalism, as explained by writers such as John Dewey and Mortimer Adler, since individuals are the basis of society, all individuals should have access to basic necessities of fulfillment, such as education, economic opportunity, and protection from harmful macro-events beyond their control. To social liberals, these benefits are considered rights. These positive rights, which must be produced and supplied by other people, are qualitatively different from the classic negative rights, which require only that others refrain from aggression. To the social liberal, ensuring positive rights is a goal that is continuous with the general project of protecting liberties. Schools, libraries, museums, and art galleries are to be supported by taxes. Social liberalism advocates some restrictions on economic competition, such as anti-trust laws and price controls on wages ("minimum wage laws.") It also expects governments to provide a basic level of welfare, supported by taxation, intended to enable the best use of the talents of the population, to prevent revolution, or simply "for the public good."

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    • #17
      So Tank, this means you would support ... oh I don't know ... a National Socialist party ... ?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by the_idle_threat
        So Tank, this means you would support ... oh I don't know ... a National Socialist party ... ?
        If such party falls into the line of Marxism, perhaps (see the meaning of social liberal above). However, if it falls into that of Stalinism, nope. I am not a Communist (with the capital C).

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        • #19
          post deleted, it's not worth the effort.

          Randy Moss is the most dominating player in the NFL.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Partial
            post deleted, it's not worth the effort.
            Not worth the effort arguing with you anyway.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
              Originally posted by the_idle_threat
              So Tank, this means you would support ... oh I don't know ... a National Socialist party ... ?
              If such party falls into the line of Marxism, perhaps (see the meaning of social liberal above). However, if it falls into that of Stalinism, nope. I am not a Communist (with the capital C).
              Google it. Make sure you do it at work ...

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              • #22
                There's no argument tank, just interesting discussion. I have a few socialist friends myself. There was a point in time where I referred to myself as a moderate socialist. Then I wisened up from being 16, read some books by the people that have money and some great things in life, and saw the light as a libertarian.

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                • #23
                  Btw Tank, Stalinism is nothing more than Marxism in the real world. If you're going to go around believing that pure Marxism is a viable political goal, then you might as well believe in the Care Bears while you're at it.

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                  • #24


                    "Nobody knows how to share like Share Bear. She is a friendly bear who knows how much fun it is to give some of her good things to others. She thinks that sharing is such a treat, that she shows it with her symbol—two heart-shaped lollipops!"

                    Share Bear is a Marxist!

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                    • #25
                      I'm a libertarian as well. I'm not really any one thing, but libertarian comes the closest to discribing me. I do believe in some socialism. It puts a balance to things IMO.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Randy Moss Revisited - Political

                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                        Angelina Jolie (won Brad Pitt from Jennifer Aniston).
                        Seems appropriate to hijack the thread...........'cuz I've got the GIF for you right here:

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                        • #27
                          Where do you find these GIFs? They are hilarious!

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