Originally posted by Kiwon
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When did I mention an economic crisis when I was mentioning McCain's request for unity. You talk a lot about what this country needs (without actually living here), but what this nation really needs is is to come together and to stop spewing divisiveness. Both men expressed that need clearly last night."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I pay taxes there, sweetie. I'm on the hook for every poor financial decision they make.Originally posted by MJZiggyWhen did I mention an economic crisis when I was mentioning McCain's request for unity. You talk a lot about what this country needs (without actually living here), but what this nation really needs is is to come together and to stop spewing divisiveness. Both men expressed that need clearly last night.Originally posted by KiwonTHANK GOD the election is over.Originally posted by MJZiggyKiwon. the election is done. It's over. It was bitter on both sides, but McCain himself told his crowd last time that it was time to unify and get behind our new leadership.
Economic crisis? - Obama spent what, over $650 million?
Man-made global warming crisis? - 2 true believers have been destroying the planet for a couple of years now flying all over the country.
The new leadership I get behind is new conservative leadership. McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only) at best and an appeaser at worse. The turnout figures are LESS THAN in 2004 which makes it clear that many conservatives simply could not bring themselves to vote for McCain.
McCain almost lost my vote with his support for the stupid bailout plan. All the BS about government pork and the jerk votes for a $800 billion bill filled with wasteful spending. Yeah, the great reformer.
Conservatives and Republicans made the mess they're in and now they have to deal with it. They deserve what they got. Let them continue to get their tails whipped until they return to their ideological roots.
My prediction, after the warm fuzzies wear off, reality will set in. The last two years under Democratic leadership have been a disaster. Lowest approval ratings of any Congress in history. Far lower even than a weak, lameduck president. Obama, who has no executive experience and a very questionable character, will be a rubber stamp President for his Democratic Congress and will quickly lose control. The old guard will have their way with him.
6 months from today, if yesterday's election were held again, he would lose.
He's not ready for the job and it will become painfully obvious fairly soon. It's just that simple.
I don't care what either one of them said. America is still a center-right, capitalist country. If you think it's gonna go leftist-socialist without a fuss is being naive.
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349-163 says you might want to rethink that idea. The idea that they are happy with the status quo and don't want change looks more naive to me. It's likely to be governed more center than you expect, but don't kid yourself--Obama won a landslide last night. I looked at some of the counties he won last night and he killed in some places in Michigan which I didn't expect, and had very strong victories in several Republican strongholds in Florida. There are blue dots in unexpected places all over that map.
(and as an unrelated sidenote--after the results were in a statement was released from one Mr. Ayers saying that he barely knows Obama and was no more important to him than thousands of other people, but like so many others wishes he had the opportunity to know him better.)"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Yeah, I hate it when politicians are mean to each other. I prefer the politicians that compliment on how great their opponents' ideas are and why their respective party is what America needs.Originally posted by PartialWhy should everyone have a warm fuzzy for Obama and be all patriotic after listening to him slam conservatives, mccain, and bush for the past oh I don't know, 2-3 years?!?
Seriously.."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Seriously. Somehow I came away from this election after hearing the ads and watching the debates knowing what Obama intended to do for this country. After the same period of time I came away knowing that McCain was a politician a lot longer than Obama, who Obama went to meetings with, what McCain thought was wrong with what Obama intended to do, etc., etc., etc. I still am not sure what McCain ever intended to DO if he got elected.Originally posted by PartialWhy should everyone have a warm fuzzy for Obama and be all patriotic after listening to him slam conservatives, mccain, and bush for the past oh I don't know, 2-3 years?!?
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Don't use that as an excuse because the reason Obama got so much attention is because McCain gave it to him. I asked over a week ago for anyone to post a link to a McCain ad that didn't slam Obama for something and not one was posted. You think I'm wrong? Find me one McCain ad that has to do with McCain and not Obama."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Good thing you dont identify as conservative.Originally posted by PartialWhy should everyone have a warm fuzzy for Obama and be all patriotic after listening to him slam conservatives, mccain, and bush for the past oh I don't know, 2-3 years?!?
Seriously..Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Then it must be true. This erases all the concerns people had about the two of them. Whew.Originally posted by MJZiggy(and as an unrelated sidenote--after the results were in a statement was released from one Mr. Ayers saying that he barely knows Obama and was no more important to him than thousands of other people, but like so many others wishes he had the opportunity to know him better.)"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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What possible reason does he have to lie about it AFTER the returns are in?
I got to a lot of meetings with people I don't know personally. I'd like to believe these are all fine folk, but what do I really know or care about what they did when I was 8 years old? Here's the real kicker--some of them are *gasp* Muslim!! I guess that means that I'm all for radical Palestinian organizations (just please don't tell the Jewish people who are in those same meetings. Wait. Right. That means the Jewish people support the radicals too!!! I'm sure they sit around asking for their 40-year-old political views)"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Oh I don't know... maybe because Obama is going to be our president... despite his affiliation with domestic and foreign terrorists. I would expect the true scrubbing down of his past has already started in earnest. It simply won't do to have a leader in the White House who not only has starving relatives all over the globe, but also has ties one of the strangest and varied collection of hate-filled people we've ever seen. You got America haters, white haters, Jew slayers, and wannabe soldier killers. And those are just the ones we know about.Originally posted by MJZiggyWhat possible reason does he have to lie about it AFTER the returns are in?
Like it or not, Obama needs a lot of scrubbing down to go through. The USS Obamarama's meteoric rise came with a high propensity for barnacle collection. I assume that happens to anyone who's willing to do and say anything in the name of hope and change."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Whoa there. Come out of your Obamania revere for a moment. He's not our president yet.Originally posted by MJZiggyYou're right. He IS our president.
Of course that he will be is that's all that matters... for some people. Some of us still have concerns about everything I mentioned and that you ignored."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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You learn your talking points well. You will be a good shill for the administration. I hope you are comfortable in a leash. It is nice to think that someone is in a charge and is making all the right decisions, and all you need do is applaud and repeat their slogans, but after a while, the collar begins to chafe.Originally posted by MJZiggyI got to a lot of meetings with people I don't know personally. I'd like to believe these are all fine folk, but what do I really know or care about what they did when I was 8 years old?"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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