This guy looks like a moron now

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I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.

Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.

[RashanGary]

I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.

Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.

He went to the SB that year

[RashanGary]

You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?

Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.

[Bretsky]

I will remind you that a true leader would have sat himself down when it became apparent that his injury was affecting the bottom line of the team. I wonder if that's why a certain coach lost his job...???

What a load of homeristic bullshit; gosh do you really believe this ?

For years we glorified the guy for playing though pain; celebrated the Giants TD when he comes running off the bench. Celebrate his often success when he was far below 100%. When he lost those games we didn't hammer him to death for not realizing he was "hurting the team" by playing with pain. Like an athlete has that ability. That's a coaches call.

Now we ream him for playing with pain and expect him to magically realize it's apparent he's hurting the team. Gimme a frickin break.

FAHU

Frickin Absolutely homeristically Unbelievable
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[Partial]

You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?

Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.

Not the real deal? He's certainly not a top 5 quarterback imo. Most people in the world aren't. Define real deal. I think he's the 14-16 best starting QB in the NFL right now. Could get better, could get worse. He has an unbelievable amount of talent around him right now, and it will undoubtedly be significantly worse in the future.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

He said he's fragile.. He did get hurt last year, in addition to every other year he's been in the league. Sure, he played through it, but will he be able to stay healthy next year? Maybe, maybe not.

By that analysis, Brett Favre was fragile too. In how many years was he injured, but played through it?? Most of them, by my recollection. Being injured at some point in the season does not mean you are fragile.

Exactly. Every player in the NFL is hurt at some point in the season. Nobody in the NFl goes thru a season healthy. They are playing football.

Fuck, every year we have someone explain the difference tween being hurt and being injured.

[Bretsky]

You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?

Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.

Not the real deal? He's certainly not a top 5 quarterback imo. Most people in the world aren't. Define real deal. I think he's the 14-16 best starting QB in the NFL right now. Could get better, could get worse. He has an unbelievable amount of talent around him right now, and it will undoubtedly be significantly worse in the future.

I'd definitely put Rogers top 12; possibly top 10 with current performance.

That is not taking into account looking into the future

[vince]

I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.

Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.

Figure it out Partial. The defense of Rodgers is due almost exclusively to your nonsensical statements designed to undermine his performance.

Then you keep throwing more nonsensical logic to protect a fragile ego over the possibility of being wrong.

Has it occurred to you that those defending Rodgers are placing the bulk of the blame (yes, blame is being placed on the Packers) where it actually deserves to be placed - on the defense and special teams, and to some extent on injuries to key defenders! Yes, those are the PACKER defense and special teams!!! But us homers would never criticize the team, would we....

Actually, I have now figured it out! Partial, you are actually Aaron Rodgers' brother or work for his agent and you are consistently spewing lies disguised as ignorance about him in order to motivate fans to do the research about his actual performance in order to crystalize and grow fan support in Rodgers' favor! Now that's sheer brilliance - and a highly effective strategy. Well done sir.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.

Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.

He went to the SB that year

Exactly.

Stats don't matter, only winning does...except when you lead your team to the Superbowl...then the stats clearly show that....well, my head is exploding.

So, if Arod had shitty stats and lead us to the SB..then it would be the result of everybody else..the team won despite Arod.

If Arod had great stats and lead us to the SB...proves nothing, cause stats don't mean anything.

If Arod had great stats and we don't get to the playoffs/SB....IT PROVES EVERYTHING.

If Arod had poor stats and we dont' get to the playoffs/SB...IT PROVES EVERYTHING.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.

Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.

Quarterbacks are ultimately judged on wins and losses, not pretty stats in the middle of the field.

Brain exploding.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?

Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.

Not the real deal? He's certainly not a top 5 quarterback imo. Most people in the world aren't. Define real deal. I think he's the 14-16 best starting QB in the NFL right now. Could get better, could get worse. He has an unbelievable amount of talent around him right now, and it will undoubtedly be significantly worse in the future.

And, it begins...the unbelievable talent around him argument. Laying the groundwork for "it's not arod, it's the players around him."

If we have unbelievable talent....what do teams like the Pats, gmen, etc. have?

[ThunderDan]

You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?

Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.

Not the real deal? He's certainly not a top 5 quarterback imo. Most people in the world aren't. Define real deal. I think he's the 14-16 best starting QB in the NFL right now. Could get better, could get worse. He has an unbelievable amount of talent around him right now, and it will undoubtedly be significantly worse in the future.

Not this crap again. Is this going to have to be the fourth thread we talk about this shit.

Let's see first is Eli Manning than Vince Young.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've never seen a QB get more love for leading a losing team. You guys are such homers.

Remember, Rex Grossman led the league in games with QB rating above 100+ too. Stats do NOT tell the entire story about a player.

Grossman finished the year completing 54% of his passes, 6.7 yards/attempt, 23 TDs, and 20 interceptions. That is a 73.9 passer rating. I think stats did pretty much tell his story that year. He was below average statistically. The Bears defense and special teams were really good though.

[vince]

You still think Rodgers is not the real deal, huh Parsh?

Well, you and LEWCA can have that corner. It's going to be awfully lonely awfully quick.

Not the real deal? He's certainly not a top 5 quarterback imo. Most people in the world aren't. Define real deal. I think he's the 14-16 best starting QB in the NFL right now. Could get better, could get worse. He has an unbelievable amount of talent around him right now, and it will undoubtedly be significantly worse in the future.

And, it begins...the unbelievable talent around him argument. Laying the groundwork for "it's not arod, it's the players around him."

If we have unbelievable talent....what do teams like the Pats, gmen, etc. have?

Any success Arod had individually is due to exclusively to the unbelievable talent around him, but any failure the team around him had is due exclusively to Arod individually. I'm not sure what world that makes sense in, but it ain't the one the rest of the civilized world lives in.

And then he accuses us "homers" of not being fair and balanced.

[ThunderDan]

I will remind you that a true leader would have sat himself down when it became apparent that his injury was affecting the bottom line of the team. I wonder if that's why a certain coach lost his job...???

What a load of homeristic bullshit; gosh do you really believe this ?

For years we glorified the guy for playing though pain; celebrated the Giants TD when he comes running off the bench. Celebrate his often success when he was far below 100%. When he lost those games we didn't hammer him to death for not realizing he was "hurting the team" by playing with pain. Like an athlete has that ability. That's a coaches call.

Now we ream him for playing with pain and expect him to magically realize it's apparent he's hurting the team. Gimme a frickin break.

FAHU

Frickin Absolutely homeristically Unbelievable
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When did Favre ever have a five game streak like this:
23/43 247 0TD 1Int 60.9 rating
20/31 137 0 1 60.8
17/30 207 1 2 61.4
18/31 187 0 2 48.7
20/40 233 1 3 45.1

Call it Homerism if you want but those numbers are it. Favre never did that as a Packer.