Michael Jackson has passed away - suddenly.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He bedded small impoverished children .

I really doubt that he was sexual with kids.

He had many children around him for years. There would be a lot of incidents, he wouldn't be able to pay them all off.

He was a troubled guy, that's for sure. But not a nasty person.

[cpk1994]

eh....I usually do not disparage anyone who has died

Maybe you should have stopped there.........or at least waited for the body to 'chill'..........

Yes, let's honor the man now he's dead. He was obviously a soldier of God and worthy of our homage. He danced. He sang. He bedded small impoverished children.

The things some people choose to celebrate and honor simply astound me.

Except that it never was proven that "He bedded small impoversihed children". Also, you can't deny the impact he has had no the music industry, especially in regards to music videos. It would be the hieght of stupidity to ignore his contiributions to pop culture simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

I guess by your logic, Elvis Presley shouldn't have been honored becuase he was a druggie. Right?

[GrnBay007]

eh....I usually do not disparage anyone who has died

Maybe you should have stopped there.........or at least waited for the body to 'chill'..........

Yes, let's honor the man now he's dead. He was obviously a soldier of God and worthy of our homage. He danced. He sang. He bedded small impoverished children.

The things some people choose to celebrate and honor simply astound me.

Except that it never was proven that "He bedded small impoversihed children". Also, you can't deny the impact he has had no the music industry, especially in regards to music videos. It would be the hieght of stupidity to ignore his contiributions to pop culture simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

I guess by your logic, Elvis Presley shouldn't have been honored becuase he was a druggie. Right?

I'm so sorry....but I can't resist!

CPK, you kinda surprise me here. Lets change the character just for the fun of it.

Except that it never was proven that he dishonored the Packers. Also, you can't deny the impact he has had on the NFL, especially the Green Bay Packers. It would be the height of stupidity to ignore his contributions to the NFL simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

:P

I know it's not right to bring this up in this type of thread, but just think it's odd your loyalty to MJ but yet you are disgusted by BF.

[cpk1994]

I'm so sorry....but I can't resist!

CPK, you kinda surprise me here. Lets change the character just for the fun of it.

Except that it never was proven that he dishonored the Packers. Also, you can't deny the impact he has had on the NFL, especially the Green Bay Packers. It would be the height of stupidity to ignore his contributions to the NFL simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

:P

I know it's not right to bring this up in this type of thread, but just think it's odd your loyalty to MJ but yet you are disgusted by BF.

Not jack the thread but I never ingored his contributions to the NFL. I have always maintained that I hate Brett Favre the PERSON becuase of his umprofessionalism and childish behavior, not as a player on the field. A big misconception you have.

[MOBB DEEP]

a troubled soul but i agree with harlan that he wasnt a bad person

R.I.P. musical genius

[SkinBasket]

eh....I usually do not disparage anyone who has died

Maybe you should have stopped there.........or at least waited for the body to 'chill'..........

Yes, let's honor the man now he's dead. He was obviously a soldier of God and worthy of our homage. He danced. He sang. He bedded small impoverished children.

The things some people choose to celebrate and honor simply astound me.

Except that it never was proven that "He bedded small impoversihed children". Also, you can't deny the impact he has had no the music industry, especially in regards to music videos. It would be the hieght of stupidity to ignore his contiributions to pop culture simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

I guess by your logic, Elvis Presley shouldn't have been honored becuase he was a druggie. Right?

Good fucking Christ. I guess if you dance enough, you can have all the small children sleep with you that you want. But of course nothing happened. Stupid kids. Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed? I wonder if you had heard the same accusations and facts about a man with an unfamiliar name who didn't live in an amusement park (again, completely normal), if you would be so generous in your defense of him.



Someone posted some MJ jokes. Someone else suggested that maybe they shouldn't have. I suggested that maybe we honor the wrong people for the wrong reasons and that their deaths are used as an excuse to ignore the fucked up part of their lives and protect them from deserved ridicule and criticism. Thanks for proving my point.

Oh and go ahead and place me at "the height stupidity" if I don't care what contributions someone made to "pop culture." My priorities are obviously totally out of whack. All the kids he didn't touch aside, without the moonwalk and the Thriller video, my life would have been an empty shell of what it is today. I would have saved a couple quarters on that arcade game where he would throw his hat and grab his crotch to vanquish zombies too.

[SkinBasket]

Also on Thursday, fans mourning Michael Jackson poured on to Hollywood Boulevard to lay flowers on his walk-of-fame star. However, they were on the wrong Michael Jackson.

Because the singer's star is currently covered by the red carpet put down for the "Bruno" premiere, passersby accidentally went to the star belonging to radio talk show host Michael Jackson, the Wall Street Journal reported.

How fitting.

[Patler]

Except that it never was proven that "He bedded small impoversihed children". Also, you can't deny the impact he has had no the music industry, especially in regards to music videos. It would be the hieght of stupidity to ignore his contiributions to pop culture simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

I guess by your logic, Elvis Presley shouldn't have been honored becuase he was a druggie. Right?

It was never proven that OJ Simpson killed anyone either, so let's pretend that part of his life never happened and lets just remember what he did on a football field.

It never ceases to amaze me how much we tolerate and forgive from people who can run, jump, throw, sing, play or act. Read about the evidence presented, and ask yourself what the verdict would have been if one of us had been sitting behind the defense table instead of Michael Jackson, OJ Simpson or some of the other celebrities who have gone on trial.

Many in the entertainment industry seem to have personal demons. When it results in harm to themselves, like Elvis Presley's apparent drug addiction, I simply feel sorry for them. But when they act directly against others and directly harm others, my tolerance diminishes quickly.

In the end, I just don't think entertainers, whether they are musicians, actors or athletes, deserve the pedestal we give them. What they do in their jobs just isn't that important. Some go beyond it and use their fame and wealth for things that are important, and I will acknowledge them for their good works, but not for what they do as musicians, actors and athletes anymore than I do for a guy who is a very good carpenter, electrician, accountant or landscaper. They are good at what they do.

A good example is Bart Starr. Great QB. HOF'er, etc. Nice, but so what? He entertained us. Of greater importance is the work he has done through the Rawhide Ranch and other charities that really make positive impacts on peoples lives.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

Jackson was a child abductor!?

I wonder if you had heard the same accusations and facts about a man with an unfamiliar name who didn't live in an amusement park (again, completely normal), if you would be so generous in your defense of him.

Of course it's true that if an ordinary person hosted sleepovers with kids there would probably be a police raid before they even got the popcorn popped. But that's kinda the point, he's famous and wealthy. Jackson had half a dozen kids at a time sleeping in his room over many years, he was not alone with a single kid. If he had a proclivity to touch kids, its hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen multiple times. There would be many complainers and witnesses coming forward.

[Patler]

If he had a proclivity to touch kids, its hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen multiple times. There would be many complainers and witnesses coming forward.

If you read what the investigators have to say about it, it did and there were.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If he had a proclivity to touch kids, its hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen multiple times. There would be many complainers and witnesses coming forward.

If you read what the investigators have to say about it, it did and there were.

Sounds like a sure conviction.

[Scott Campbell]

As evidenced by all the tributes yesterday, he's been convicted in the court of public opinion. It's part of his legacy, and wasn't washed away with an out of court settlement, or a not guilty verdict.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Anybody who is accused of child molestation is guilty in the court of public of opinion. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

A grown man hosting sleepover parties is enough to convict him in that court. The out of court settlements mean nothing.

[Scott Campbell]

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Or in this case, separate but multiple fires.

[Harlan Huckleby]

There would be plenty of corroboration to convict him if he was touching kids.

You can choose to believe what you want.