Michael Jackson has passed away - suddenly.

[SkinBasket]

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Good fucking Christ. I guess if you dance enough, you can have all the small children sleep with you that you want. But of course nothing happened. Stupid kids. Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

And where is your proof he touched them? The Mother of the accfuser who was a total nutjob? The same mother who as it turns out most liekly told him to lie?

I love how the Jackson worshipers pin his legacy against this one point, like it magically alleviates everything else surrounding not only the case, but the perverse and unhealthy strangeness that defined the man for the latter half of his life.

I suppose, as Patler pointed out, that you also believe OJ is innocent, there were no irregularities in the Iranian elections, and Kim Jong Il has 11 holes in one to his name? Guess what else? I fucked a unicorn last night. And it's true until you provide proof.

And when you're defending Jackson, it's probably not a good idea to use "total nutjob" to describe anyone. Jackson's going to lose that comparison, no matter who's on the other side.

1) I am not a Jackson worshiper and am insulted bny that comment.

2)What I do believe in is "innocent until proven guilty" You know a basic tenant on which the American judical system is built.

3)In OJ's case he was aquitted of murder. HE isn't innocent, but he was found not guity by a jury of his peers on the charges against him in that matter. There is a differecne between not guilty and innocent. Smoething you refuse to distinguish.

4)Who the hell cares about Iranian elections or Kim Jong IL's golf game?

It is people who rush to convict like you that ends up getting innocent people executed.

It's like someone cooked up a big pot of crazy and dumped it all over the floor like overcooked spaghetti. I could try to step into this, but I'm afraid to slip on the mushiness and get injured. Then I'd just have a sore elbow and be covered in crazy.

[cpk1994]

It's like someone cooked up a big pot of crazy and dumped it all over the floor like overcooked spaghetti. I could try to step into this, but I'm afraid to slip on the mushiness and get injured. Then I'd just have a sore elbow and be covered in crazy.

You are the one who created it.

[Scott Campbell]

3)In OJ's case he was aquitted of murder. HE isn't innocent, but he was found not guity by a jury of his peers on the charges against him in that matter. There is a differecne between not guilty and innocent. Smoething you refuse to distinguish.

1) Jurors found OJ liable for their deaths in the wrongful death civil suit.
2) Jackson was never found innocent. That's not how our legal system works.


Just because somebody is found not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt - it doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't do it.

[SkinBasket]

It's like someone cooked up a big pot of crazy and dumped it all over the floor like overcooked spaghetti. I could try to step into this, but I'm afraid to slip on the mushiness and get injured. Then I'd just have a sore elbow and be covered in crazy.

You are the one who created it.

You were okay up until your 4 points of insanity followed by the accusation that people like me get innocent people executed. I'll come back to this, I'm thinking too clearly right now.

[Deputy Nutz]

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on men.

That is what I have to say about MJ. The first time I could understand that he was the target of a extortion scheme. The second time, he was a damn fool if nothing else.

they never went to a formal trial because you don't have a case against him if he pays off the victims.

[Harlan Huckleby]

they never went to a formal trial because you don't have a case against him if he pays off the victims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson

he paid-off two people who threatened to sue him, but those people could still be called to testify in the criminal trial. The accusations against Jackson were credible given Jackson's bizarre habits, so I don't give a lot of weight to the fact that Jackson would pay-off some accusors.

There were many people testifying both for and against him. I don't know how many kids participated in Michael's sleepover club over the years, but I bet it was a hundred or more.

Zool said Jackson gave kids alchohol, but that was refuted in court.

[Scott Campbell]

[hoosier]

It now sounds like cops think Jackson's death might be related to painkillers. Whether intentional or accidental is unclear. If intentional, that makes for a wierd kind of symmetry with David Carradine, whose death originally sounded like suicide but was later changed to autoeroticism gone awry.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_en_mu/us_obit_michael_jackson

[Scott Campbell]

[Harlan Huckleby]

from wiki

Macaulay Culkin
Phillip LeMarque stated that he once saw Jackson with his hand resting on the pants of Culkin when the two were playing video games. Adrian McManus only saw that once Jackson kissed Culkin on his cheek, and had his hand "kind of by his leg, kind of on his rear end." However, Culkin denounced the molestation allegations as "absolutely ridiculous" and said that nothing inappropriate had happened. Culkin testified that he slept in Jackson's bed several times between the ages of 10 and 14, sometimes with other boys as well. He said the sleepovers weren't planned and that he and others would just fall asleep when they were tired.

[Scott Campbell]

Harlan, if you woke up in the middle of the woods, with your pants around your ankles and you knees all scraped up - would you tell anybody?

[Harlan Huckleby]

no.

and yes, I do want to go camping


but the classic version is "with a rubber dangling out of your butt." I suppose you cleaned it up for the romper room.

[Scott Campbell]

no.

and yes, I do want to go camping


but the classic version is "with a rubber dangling out of your butt." I suppose you cleaned it up for the romper room.

Ok, butt there was a point to this joke. It's very possible that some kids didn't say anything because they were embarrassed.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If he had a proclivity to touch kids, its hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen multiple times. There would be many complainers and witnesses coming forward.

If you read what the investigators have to say about it, it did and there were.

Ty doesn't know what to believe, but Ty knows for sure one of those families was cheating welfare at the same time they went to court..and got convincing killed. The prosecutor looked like an idiot.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

no.

and yes, I do want to go camping


but the classic version is "with a rubber dangling out of your butt." I suppose you cleaned it up for the romper room.

Ok, butt there was a point to this joke. It's very possible that some kids didn't say anything because they were embarrassed.

And it's very possible that some parents were embarrassed that they let their kids hang around MJ, regardless of his innocence or guilt.