Off topic stuff from the Vikings/Saints game thread

[Tarlam!]

Good post, Zig!

You just like it when she says "boobs".

I like it when she talks! Zig's a babe with a brain! Doesn't get any better than that!

[Tarlam!]

Rastak is awesome and would get a beer with him.

I had the ultimate pleasure of having a beer with him, Harvey and Superfan. It was one of the nicest evenings of my life. All three are fantastic people. If I lived in Minnie, I would see to it that they became close friends. I don't state that lightly.

[vince]

Rastak is awesome and would get a beer with him.

I had the ultimate pleasure of having a beer with him, Harvey and Superfan. It was one of the nicest evenings of my life. All three are fantastic people. If I lived in Minnie, I would see to it that they became close friends. I don't state that lightly.

I don't doubt this for one second. They seem like quality people as much as you can infer from their posts here.

Sometimes I think people forget the name of this forum though. You want to read nice things about the Vikings, this ain't the place to hang out.

I will always 'hate' the Vikings and revel in their failure. That says nothing whatever about Rastak as a person. If some people want to start up an "NFL Friends" forum, have at it, but keep the gibberish off PackerRats. JMO

[mraynrand]

I would like to point out a couple of things. I'm sure the result will be nothing short of another little bash session but I don't care.

How hypocritical of some of you! I can't even count how many times I've read people comment on how they miss Rastak....or when he does show up make comments to "welcome" him back to PR. What a crock! Really? You welcome him back....wish he posted here again...etc. yet there are countless threads/comments doing nothing but bashing the team he roots for. Rastak was a long standing member of this site. He always made draft day extra special by posting tons of great info. There may have been friendly jabs in the past toward the vikings but it was never so sickening the way it is now. Why? All because some can't get past Favre playing for the Vikings! Seriously, is it really worth all that......in an adult world people?

In the past there were occasional visitors from opposing teams. As long as they came to this site and were respectful everyone here seemed to show them and their team the same respect. Again, now because some can't get past their Favre hatred why would any of the friendly Viking posters we had here care to visit? The outspoken of this forum are turning this place into exactly what they want.....everyone must have the same opinion and if you don't you are not welcome.

So yeah, it's an online Packer football forum. I ask you this....do you treat all those in your real everyday life the same? So you have a neighbor that is a Viking fan do you get angry with them because of the team they root for and make shitty comments about their team constantly? Or do you show them respect and try to have a civil - adult conversation with them regarding football? Yeah......FOOTBALL....not just one player that you hate because for some reason you feel he personally did you wrong? Man, after stepping back it's unreal how ridiculous it all seems!!!

This site was built on a lot of long standing posters. People who actually befriended those around them. People who did not tolerate disrespect to others. Seriously people....you are not showing how much you love the Packers by demonstrating how much you hate Favre. I haven't come across any Favre-hate-o-meters to prove you are a Packer fan.

Welcome back 007! I still hate the Vikings and will bash them any chance I get! Hope you enjoy the season.

[retailguy]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

[Bossman641]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

When did Rastak say anything?

You know why else we could be losing posters? Maybe they are sick of being told how to act. Maybe they are sick of being told by Favre fans how terrible we are because we "hate" Favre while they still respect Favre. Maybe they are sick of being at a forum that seems more interested in fair and equal treatment for Viking fans than Packer fans.

Look, I can throw out allegations too. Does that make it true?

This isn't kindergarten. Everybody doesn't get an A and a plus for trying hard. IMO, if we are losing posters who are too sensitive to take criticism of a team that they only like because of Favre then we aren't missing much.

[Pugger]

It just isn't the Favre thing that might be driving folks away. Not long ago I was chastised and called a hypocrite in so many words because of one of my posts. I almost said the hell with it but I didn't in the end because most of the time this is a pretty good forum. Others might not be so thick skinned.

[mraynrand]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

When did Rastak say anything?

You know why else we could be losing posters? Maybe they are sick of being told how to act. Maybe they are sick of being told by Favre fans how terrible we are because we "hate" Favre while they still respect Favre. Maybe they are sick of being at a forum that seems more interested in fair and equal treatment for Viking fans than Packer fans.

Look, I can throw out allegations too. Does that make it true?

This isn't kindergarten. Everybody doesn't get an A and a plus for trying hard. IMO, if we are losing posters who are too sensitive to take criticism of a team that they only like because of Favre then we aren't missing much.

Blast Favre, blast the Vikings, (or the opposite) but don't blast the poster. That's the key. 007 Nutz are BFFFs - there's nothing wrong with that, even if they want the Vikings to beat the Packers. I'm OK with that, so long as they don't get upset with me when I tell them that I want to see Favre's ass kicked when he comes into Lambeau. Decent people can exist on both sides of the Favre fence.

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BTW, the Vikings didn't lose by all that much to a very good defending Superbowl winner on the road. They are going to be tough to beat this year.

[mraynrand]

It just isn't the Favre thing that might be driving folks away. Not long ago I was chastised and called a hypocrite in so many words because of one of my posts. I almost said the hell with it but I didn't in the end because most of the time this is a pretty good forum. Others might not be so thick skinned.

I think you are a hypocrite for staying.

[Bossman641]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

When did Rastak say anything?

You know why else we could be losing posters? Maybe they are sick of being told how to act. Maybe they are sick of being told by Favre fans how terrible we are because we "hate" Favre while they still respect Favre. Maybe they are sick of being at a forum that seems more interested in fair and equal treatment for Viking fans than Packer fans.

Look, I can throw out allegations too. Does that make it true?

This isn't kindergarten. Everybody doesn't get an A and a plus for trying hard. IMO, if we are losing posters who are too sensitive to take criticism of a team that they only like because of Favre then we aren't missing much.

Blast Favre, blast the Vikings, (or the opposite) but don't blast the poster. That's the key. 007 Nutz are BFFFs - there's nothing wrong with that, even if they want the Vikings to beat the Packers. I'm OK with that, so long as they don't get upset with me when I tell them that I want to see Favre's ass kicked when he comes into Lambeau. Decent people can exist on both sides of the Favre fence.

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BTW, the Vikings didn't lose by all that much to a very good defending Superbowl winner on the road. They are going to be tough to beat this year.

Exactly!

I'm not sure when the last time was that a BFFF was personally criticized or disrespected. Were their ideas and beliefs questioned? Of course. But I have not seen anyone getting disrespected.

[Brandon494]

Give me a break, its nothing wrong with bashing your rivals. Especially when they have maybe the greastest QB in Packer history trying to win them thier first SB. Its not like we want the Vikings to have a bad season by way of Favre getting injuried, I just want him to throw 20+ INTs like he did for us.

[retailguy]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

When did Rastak say anything?

You know why else we could be losing posters? Maybe they are sick of being told how to act. Maybe they are sick of being told by Favre fans how terrible we are because we "hate" Favre while they still respect Favre. Maybe they are sick of being at a forum that seems more interested in fair and equal treatment for Viking fans than Packer fans.

Look, I can throw out allegations too. Does that make it true?

This isn't kindergarten. Everybody doesn't get an A and a plus for trying hard. IMO, if we are losing posters who are too sensitive to take criticism of a team that they only like because of Favre then we aren't missing much.

Blast Favre, blast the Vikings, (or the opposite) but don't blast the poster. That's the key. 007 Nutz are BFFFs - there's nothing wrong with that, even if they want the Vikings to beat the Packers. I'm OK with that, so long as they don't get upset with me when I tell them that I want to see Favre's ass kicked when he comes into Lambeau. Decent people can exist on both sides of the Favre fence.

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BTW, the Vikings didn't lose by all that much to a very good defending Superbowl winner on the road. They are going to be tough to beat this year.

Exactly!

I'm not sure when the last time was that a BFFF was personally criticized or disrespected. Were their ideas and beliefs questioned? Of course. But I have not seen anyone getting disrespected.

Serious question - "Who determines what "disrespected" means?"

You keep telling me that no one is "disrespecting" anyone. They (via PM's) tell me that they feel attacked and disrespected.

So, Bossman, who is correct?

On this particular issue, the only horse I've got in the race, is several folks that I consider either virtual friends, or personal friends that I have met are MISSING.

As to recently, have you read the responses to Woody's posts? Have you read 95% of what Campbell says to woody, and vice versa?

[MJZiggy]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

It's a nice thought, hon, but after three years, I'm tired of being told what I can say in a Viking thread on our forum. Either we put our big girl panties on or we stay the hell out of Viking threads on the Packer forum if we don't want to hear people making fun of the VIKINGS' quarterback. Two threads is just not that hard to avoid, but trying to tell people what they can't say in those two threads is just really getting silly. I bet there are very few references to Favre in the Eagles thread, but if I get the chance, I'm surely going to be making fun of the Eagles. Rastak's never had a problem that I've seen with people going after the Vikings before (or their players, management, owners or facility--you didn't see him getting all pissy when the love boat was the butt of jokes around here--and he of all people knows how to hate Favre. He did it for over a decade). He backs up his retorts with facts, but left when people started going after HIM instead of the team.

B didn't leave because people said unkind things about Favre. He left because of the Rat on Rat crime. Seven's post wasn't about Favre. Her post was solely meant to criticize anyone who said bad things about her boy. She may love him, but we don't have to.

[retailguy]

It just isn't the Favre thing that might be driving folks away. Not long ago I was chastised and called a hypocrite in so many words because of one of my posts. I almost said the hell with it but I didn't in the end because most of the time this is a pretty good forum. Others might not be so thick skinned.

If you did again, what you did at that time, I'd do the same thing again. The sad part? You kept insisting that if I had "just took it the way you meant it" I'd have understood what you really meant wasn't what you actually said.

I just read the words you typed.

Easiest thing in the world to "pile on". It was my view then that you were doing that. It hasn't changed, and I believe it continues. I choose not to weigh in most of the time.

[retailguy]

This has been a very revealing thread for me.

I posted something similar in the Favre thread, and was basically told "you're wrong, you don't know what they think".

Then we have one of the "they" come out of the woodwork and tell you what she thinks, and what Rastak thinks and the response is either "tough", or "you're wrong and you don't know what Ras thinks".

It's been very revealing.

It's a nice thought, hon, but after three years, I'm tired of being told what I can say in a Viking thread on our forum. Either we put our big girl panties on or we stay the hell out of Viking threads on the Packer forum if we don't want to hear people making fun of the VIKINGS' quarterback. Two threads is just not that hard to avoid, but trying to tell people what they can't say in those two threads is just really getting silly. I bet there are very few references to Favre in the Eagles thread, but if I get the chance, I'm surely going to be making fun of the Eagles. Rastak's never had a problem that I've seen with people going after the Vikings before (or their players, management, owners or facility--you didn't see him getting all pissy when the love boat was the butt of jokes around here--and he of all people knows how to hate Favre. He did it for over a decade). He backs up his retorts with facts, but left when people started going after HIM instead of the team.

B didn't leave because people said unkind things about Favre. He left because of the Rat on Rat crime. Seven's post wasn't about Favre. Her post was solely meant to criticize anyone who said bad things about her boy. She may love him, but we don't have to.

So, who is guilty of "rat on rat" crime and what does that specifically mean to you? Is "rat on rat" crime a personal attack, or what is it?