Off topic stuff from the Vikings/Saints game thread

[falco]

It's inevitable that people who have differing opinions on football matters will go after each other personally at times. Unfortunate, but inevitable. The real problem though is when someone decides to hijack a thread just to attack one or more posters. This thread was a football thread for 15 pages with no major problems.

However, then someone made a conscious decision to use the thread to attack others:

I would like to point out a couple of things. I'm sure the result will be nothing short of another little bash session but I don't care. How hypocritical of some of you!

Well she succeeded. How unfortunate, and how unfair. This should not go on, but on a forum that is almost completely unmoderated, I suppose it will continue. It is precisely why some good posters have left here.

And why, I imagine, good posters will continue to leave...

Well said Joe.

[GrnBay007]

I seriously don’t care what anyone here thinks about Favre. I used to. I got past it and now just look at it as a “consider the source” type of thing. And when I say that, I don’t mean it in a disrespectful way. I believe people have a right to their opinion….all opinions, and it doesn’t matter if it’s in person or on a sports forum. And with opinions, in an adult world, comes respect.

In my post I addressed Rastak. I have no idea why he seldom shows up anymore….but I have a darn good guess. Many of you say the Vikings have always been a hated rival, true. But seriously, things have gone over the top since Favre joined them. It all goes back to Favre. I guess there is no way to get past that on a Packer forum. I seriously wish there could be. It’s become nothing short of an obsession with some here…and that is where I see the problem. It’s not the jabs toward the Vikings (yeah, they are a top rival of the Packers), it’s not even the comments directed at an opposing team’s QB….it’s the obsession thing. It just gets sooo old!!! I would like to think many of the outspoken Favre haters here will look back at some of their comments a few years from now and wonder why they invested so much passion and hate on this topic.

Patler, I appreciated your response in explaining some of the logic. You kept it grounded and not based on emotion.

Retail, I think you were trying to help people understand my point, for that I thank you, but I think the point of the message was lost in the very beginning.

To address a few other comments:
-Your "high road" post
-just ditch the anthem of self-righteousness.
-You're not better than us for not hating him. And you shouldn't be lecturing us on how to behave. So just stop.

I will just say this…I’m sorry you see it that way. What I wrote was simply my views, my opinions. I pride myself in having an open mind. I try very hard not to obsess and hate on things/people/events I have no control over.

Joe and falco - I hijacked a thread? Seriously? This was a game day thread …the game was over long before I posted anything. LOL seriously, another example of someone’s opinions not wanted or welcome if they don’t agree with the mass.

I would hate for anyone to try to “think outside the box”.

[Administrator]

but on a forum that is almost completely unmoderated, I suppose it will continue. It is precisely why some good posters have left here.

This is a complext point, one that I don't really agree with.

But, valid, since no one can definitively prove why people leave.

Joe, you can see skinbaskets "I'm not planning an exit" thread for my comments related to moderating.

This discussion remains open if anyone wants to productively share their thoughts and opinions.

[SkinBasket]

but on a forum that is almost completely unmoderated, I suppose it will continue. It is precisely why some good posters have left here.

This is a complext point, one that I don't really agree with.

But, valid, since no one can definitively prove why people leave.

Joe, you can see skinbaskets "I'm not planning an exit" thread for my comments related to moderating.

This discussion remains open if anyone wants to productively share their thoughts and opinions.

Actually we can't see your comments in that thread because they don't exist. And what the fuck (excuse my Romanian) is up with locking the thread? God forbid you allow the people here to vent about you keeping this place in worse repair than a fucking plague infested hamster cage.

Any time there's any discussion about how to improve this fucking place, you freak the fuck out, make some grand pronouncements, lock the thread, and then nothing happens. What's it been? Two goddamn years? Not sure how you can be such a defensive pussy about something you obviously don't give a shit about.

Sorry for the namecalling, but it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past time for you to nut up or shut up.

[Scott Campbell]

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-"You're not better than us for not hating him. And you shouldn't be lecturing us on how to behave. So just stop." SC

I will just say this�I�m sorry you see it that way. What I wrote was simply my views, my opinions.

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And my quote was also my opinion, which upon further reflection, I completely stand by.

[Scott Campbell]

You can read what SC is saying to Woody. It's all out there on public display. Look at one post, look at the totality over the past 3 years. I've formed my opinion, and I want to hear yours. Is their three year "attack fest" ok and should we as a group collectively "allow it"? Note that there are "dozens" of other examples of this behavior, I just picked what I consider the most obvious one, and it isn't my attempt to single anyone out.

Well, I think you failed in your attempt not to single anyone out. Miserably.

So what exactly did I say this time?

[mraynrand]

I would hate for anyone to try to “think outside the box”.

why do this?

[Fosco33]

Screw the Vikings and anyone who plays on their team. I'd love to beat them 3 times this year - so I hope they squeak into the playoffs and Favre has his last game at Lambeau.

While it's nice to have opposing fans contribute to the site/community, we don't really have any Bear or Lion fans posting here (regularly).

When this site was highly functioning, I don't recall much involvement from opposing fans in content creation beyond draft analysis or threads. So it's not like the site is falling apart without them.

That said - I do wish there were more homepage articles, analyses, rankings, etc. Beyond that - it's a simple site to go for the latest Packer articles, gameday threads and rumors. The insights of the solid posters makes it better than simply googling this same info on any number of other sites.

Go Pack!

[falco]

nut up or shut up.

And when I look at you, I throw up. And then your mom goes around the corner and she licks it up.

[RashanGary]

Well guys, for what it's worth, I still don't root for Favre because I think his mind is in a bad place. But, I've started to see a lot of things in myself that i never knew were there and I realize, I was a lot like Brett Favre (not talent wise, but personality). I hated him because I was him.

I've finally started to become the person I really want to be in life. I hope can get there too. In the mean time, I'm pulling for the Packers and against the Vikes and I still have some special rivalry toward him too. . .

I don't think I'll be nearly as involved in these spats as in the past. But I understand them. I don't judge, nor do I worry about what other people say or do here. Live and let live.

[Administrator]

but on a forum that is almost completely unmoderated, I suppose it will continue. It is precisely why some good posters have left here.

This is a complext point, one that I don't really agree with.

But, valid, since no one can definitively prove why people leave.

Joe, you can see skinbaskets "I'm not planning an exit" thread for my comments related to moderating.

This discussion remains open if anyone wants to productively share their thoughts and opinions.

Actually we can't see your comments in that thread because they don't exist. And what the fuck (excuse my Romanian) is up with locking the thread? God forbid you allow the people here to vent about you keeping this place in worse repair than a fucking plague infested hamster cage.

Any time there's any discussion about how to improve this fucking place, you freak the fuck out, make some grand pronouncements, lock the thread, and then nothing happens. What's it been? Two goddamn years? Not sure how you can be such a defensive pussy about something you obviously don't give a shit about.

Sorry for the namecalling, but it is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past time for you to nut up or shut up.

wow. I locked the thread while I was posting a response because I wanted it to be complete and on the 1st page. I was the 19th comment, and it took me the last 30 minutes or so to respond to everything.

It's there now, not sure if you'll call it "nutting up or not" but we'll see.

[swede]

In an act of interweb violence the swede stuns you with a picture of Dr. Laura.

My contribution to the inhospitality of the thread.

[Administrator]

I'm going to have nightmares thanks to swede.

[mraynrand]

Geeezus! Poor Doc Laura! At least she still has her dog!

[RashanGary]

Great timing for the lost members to show up and bring this crap into opening day.

Gee, glad you could make it. It's just like old times again.