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  • Originally posted by retailguy View Post
    You do realize that I live in Texas, right? The next sub 100 degree day is slated for October. After dark, the mosquito's are liable to carry me away. I don't have, nor want an exercise bike, however, I'm considering a nice elliptical machine. My knees are tough as iron, (shit, I sound like Partial!), so I'm good there, my ankles suck though.

    1,500 cals a day is max for me right now, even if I walked to Washington DC! I'm not "overhydrating", I drink 4 32oz'ers a day though.
    1500 cals a day? Sweet jesus your metabolism must suck. That is not nearly enough calories imo. Look into basal metabolic rates and the harris benedict equation.

    My personal advice would be to choose weight lifting over cardio any day of the week. I supplement my weight lifting with cardio, absolutely, but first and foremost lift. Most fat people who lose weight without lifting end up skinny fat with high body fat and very little health benefits.

    I weigh a pretty slim 200 these days. Body fat is around 18% according to my mayo tape.

    I don't ever max out do to lack of spotter, but my most recent heavy sets have been as follows:

    Deadlift
    3x8 @ 315. I've done 385, so I'm pretty sure I can do 400 now

    Squat:
    3x8 @ 275, so I've got the 300 lbs squat down for sure

    Bench:
    1x2 @ 225

    Pullups:
    0 - Pathetic

    Mile:
    Not sure, I never run, but I cranked out a 5k the other week in around 30 min, so under 10 min mile at least

    Tennis first serve:
    ~95 mph

    Shooting for 10% body fat by November or December. We'll see.
    Last edited by Partial; 07-27-2011, 11:50 PM.

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    • You guys remember the kid who wanted to be a Packer strength and conditioning guy? I thought he was nuts. Boy, was I wrong. This kid is such a beast. He'll be stronger than any of the Packers by the time he's 22. No doubt about it. He's probably stronger than most now.

      He's the world record holder in the 200 lbs weight class for deadlift according to some lifting federation.

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      • What crazy shit have you done lately P?

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        • Not a damn thing. My life right now is working at my day job, tennis league, weight lifting, and working at my night job. Busy busy busy. Went to a cool party at one of the docs houses that wifey works with today. It was pretty damn nice.

          Basically I have one more month to grind out before football season starts, and then weekends will be filled with trips to the Camp and Packers on Sunday.

          I've been kicking around the notion of joining a brazilian ju-jitsu class. So there's that.

          How about you?
          Last edited by Partial; 07-28-2011, 12:24 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Partial View Post
            I've been kicking around the notion of joining a brazilian ju-jitsu class. So there's that.
            If you're still downtown area, would recommend trying out neutral ground. Jon Friedland is about as earnest of a human being as there is.

            Get rolling. There's a Pedro Sauer camp in October @ Waukesha MMA. I'll come choke you.
            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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            • Originally posted by Partial View Post
              1500 cals a day? Sweet jesus your metabolism must suck. That is not nearly enough calories imo. Look into basal metabolic rates and the harris benedict equation.

              My personal advice would be to choose weight lifting over cardio any day of the week. I supplement my weight lifting with cardio, absolutely, but first and foremost lift. Most fat people who lose weight without lifting end up skinny fat with high body fat and very little health benefits.

              I weigh a pretty slim 200 these days. Body fat is around 18% according to my mayo tape.

              I don't ever max out do to lack of spotter, but my most recent heavy sets have been as follows:

              Deadlift
              3x8 @ 315. I've done 385, so I'm pretty sure I can do 400 now

              Squat:
              3x8 @ 275, so I've got the 300 lbs squat down for sure

              Bench:
              1x2 @ 225

              Pullups:
              0 - Pathetic

              Mile:
              Not sure, I never run, but I cranked out a 5k the other week in around 30 min, so under 10 min mile at least

              Tennis first serve:
              ~95 mph

              Shooting for 10% body fat by November or December. We'll see.
              This proves that you KNOW NOTHING about a 45 year old body. Stop giving advice. One day a well meaning soul will take your advice and hurt themselves.

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              • Originally posted by retailguy View Post
                This proves that you KNOW NOTHING about a 45 year old body. Stop giving advice. One day a well meaning soul will take your advice and hurt themselves.
                God help us, this isn't even good advice for a 25 year old body. Cardio is good for you and a balanced workout with a moderate diet is ideal.
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • How the fuck can you not be able to do a pull-up? If you fall on the ground are you able to get up?
                  "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                  • Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                    God help us, this isn't even good advice for a 25 year old body. Cardio is good for you and a balanced workout with a moderate diet is ideal.
                    The really sad part, that selfish boy couldn't know, is that before I started losing weight, I went to see my doctor. I had several meetings with him, a nutritionist, and a personal trainer. I then made decisions about how I was going to approach this with their approval. I am personally NOT weight training for some specific reasons. I MAY do that when I've reached a healthy weight, but it is more likely that I will learn to box, or take some type of karate classes. But that's yet to be determined.

                    Not one piece of advice I received resembled selfish boy's. In fact, when the personal trainer told me what NOT TO DO, it was closer to his advice.

                    It must be tough to go through life thinking you're an expert at everything and no one will listen to you. I hope he can live with himself when some idiot does what he says and hurts himself permanently.

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                    • Lol okay RG, I'm sure your doctors, etc told you resistance training is bad.

                      Check out this 40 something year old guy who completely changed his life through weight lifting and good eating. John Stone is a true inspiration.



                      Running is about the least healthy physical activity one can do. Horrible on your joints. Especially when you're 250+ lbs like you were. Yes, it's good to get your heart rate up, etc. Go ask your "doctor" about the effect on arches, hips, knees, ankles, back, etc. It's not pretty.

                      I find it very, very hard to believe that any doctor would give you that advice. You sure you went to a doctor?

                      Give the situation in my life, I know a bunch of doctors. In fact, I was just hanging out with 3 of Wisconsin's best orthopedic surgeons and sports medicine professionals yesterday. For a little background on them, all 3 are in pretty good shape for being in their 40s, much, much, much better shape than you. I know for a fact that they're all avid weight trainers. Not runners. I know another doctor who is chief of medicine of a major hospital in Florida. He's related to me. He's also early 40s and a triathlete. You wanna know how he trains? He does the majority of his work in a pool and a weight room.

                      You can think you know more than me about this topic, but you don't, and your personal trainers are clearly misinformed if they're advising against resistance training. There are hundreds of studies published displaying the metabolic effects are much greater from resistance training then LISS style cardio.

                      People who lift weights lose fat and change their their physiques. People who do cardio will lose fat for awhile, then they'll just continue losing weight. Big difference.




                      Last edited by Partial; 07-28-2011, 09:47 AM.

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                      • But you still can't do a pull-up?
                        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                        • Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                          But you still can't do a pull-up?
                          Can you? How much can you deadlift? Squat? Bench? Pullups aren't easy dude. I may be able to do one, but I doubt it, last time I tried at around 215 I could not. The thing with pull-ups is once you can do one, you can make gains in reps very, very quickly. I know I can do chin-ups when using biceps and arms, but pull-ups are almost all back. I have a strong back from deadlifting but it's different muscles within the back.

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                            • Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                              • Originally posted by Partial View Post
                                Lol okay RG, I'm sure your doctors, etc told you resistance training is bad.

                                Running is about the least healthy physical activity one can do. Horrible on your joints. Especially when you're 250+ lbs like you were. Yes, it's good to get your heart rate up, etc.

                                I find it very, very hard to believe that any doctor would give you that advice. You sure you went to a doctor?

                                Give the situation in my life, I know a bunch of doctors. In fact, I was just hanging out with 3 of Wisconsin's best orthopedic surgeons and sports medicine professionals yesterday. For a little background on them, all 3 are in pretty good shape for being in their 40s, much, much, much better shape than you. I know for a fact that they're all avid weight trainers. Not runners. I know another doctor who is chief of medicine of a major hospital in Florida. He's related to me. He's also early 40s and a triathlete. You wanna know how he trains? He does the majority of his work in a pool and a weight room.

                                You can think you know more than me about this topic, but you don't, and your personal trainers are clearly misinformed if they're advising against resistance training. There are hundreds of studies published displaying the metabolic effects are much greater from resistance training then LISS style cardio.

                                People who lift weights lose fat and change their their physiques. People who do cardio will lose fat for awhile, then they'll just continue losing weight. Big difference.




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                                For fuck's sake, do you not even comprehend the word individual??? Hanging out with a doctor is quite a different matter from going to your own physician, getting a thorough physical exam and working out a detailed exercise and diet tailored to your INDIVIDUAL needs. There are more options to exercise than running. The regimen of a physician, who likely has never been overweight should not even compare to that of an overweight person who doesn't study the human form for a living. Especially when someone who DOES study the human form has recommended the routine. Exactly what the fuck do you think doing the majority of your work in a pool is? You think a triathlete doesn't do cardio? People who lift only will get nice muscles under their fat. Those who listen to their doctors will avoid injury, possible permanent injury. Did you drop a weight on your head or something?
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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