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  • Originally posted by retailguy View Post
    you think backwards. You get what you get with the apple. I have the freedom to change it, and I prefer it that way.
    False. On my iPhone, I can run iOs and Android. On my Mac, I can run Windows, Mac OS, and Linux. Can you run iOs on an Android phone? Can you run Mac OS on a PC (okay, yes to this one, but not legally).

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    • I'm amazed that there are really people out there that care that much about phones!

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      • Originally posted by GrnBay007 View Post
        I'm amazed that there are really people out there that care that much about phones!
        person might be a more accurate.
        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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        • Originally posted by Partial View Post
          Can most standard rigs take 16GB today? In the next year or two, whenever Haswell comes out, I'm gonna build a 8 or 16 core machine with 16GB ram and a super fast SSD. Until then I'm stuck on this moldy overclocked core 2 box.
          Unless there's been a recent change, I havent been keeping up lately, the current FSB has an 8g limit. With the crazy new multi-cores coming it will no doubt bump up in the next gen.
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • Very elegant chick phone?




            Technology

            The business and culture of our digital lives,
            from the L.A. Times



            Android for men, iPhone for women, smartphones for 29.7% of mobile subscribers, says Nielsen



            Planning to get a smartphone? If you’re a woman, chances are you want an iPhone. Meanwhile, Mars residents are likely to go the Android route, according to new research from The Nielsen Co.


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            • Guess I'm either a chick or a gay dude. Better tell the GF. Hope she likes to experiment.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • Originally posted by Zool View Post
                Guess I'm either a chick or a gay dude.

                Well, we could have told you that a long time ago and saved you years of uncertainty.

                But seriously, you get a pass for being a musician.

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                • Scotty my good boy, now that iPhone 5 is going to all the big carriers (except for evidently TMo, lame, must be ATT and their plan to keep their value low), it will look like this within a couple of years (okay, maybe not exactly like this, but you get the point).

                  70% iOs
                  15% Windows Phone
                  10% Android
                  5% RIM/Bada/Others

                  Cannot reiterate enough that people want a tight experience. iOS and Windows Phone provide that. Android does not. Windows 8 and Lion are pushing people towards this model.

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                  • I hope that apple gets no where near a 70% market share. Having that large of a share reduces development for competition, which in the end reduces the product for the consumer. Apple definatley has the lead and pushes the market, but I hope they don't turn into a microsoft control of the market.
                    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                    George Orwell

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                    • Originally posted by Partial View Post

                      Cannot reiterate enough that people want a tight experience.

                      I guess that rules out Harlan.

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                      • Originally posted by Partial View Post
                        Scotty my good boy, now that iPhone 5 is going to all the big carriers (except for evidently TMo, lame, must be ATT and their plan to keep their value low), it will look like this within a couple of years (okay, maybe not exactly like this, but you get the point).

                        70% iOs
                        15% Windows Phone
                        10% Android
                        5% RIM/Bada/Others

                        Cannot reiterate enough that people want a tight experience. iOS and Windows Phone provide that. Android does not. Windows 8 and Lion are pushing people towards this model.

                        Can you substantiate this, or did you pull it out of your ass?

                        Where is Symbian? Outside the US it is the most popular operating system, and Nokia just made it open source. It's going to completely disappear? On what basis? There is a whole world outside the US, and they LOVE Nokia phones. Or maybe, Nokia just employs people to put guns to your head when you walk in the cell phone shop until you buy a Nokia phone.

                        You do realize that worldwide acceptance of Android went from a 35% market share in Q1 2011 to 43% in Q2 2011? I highly doubt that porting the Iphone to Sprint is going to dramatically affect those numbers. You do also realize that Sprint is soon to be the smallest major US carrier and they're losing subscribers faster than you have lost your reputuation, right? Also, the largest acceptance of Android? Southeast Asia. Last time I checked there were just a "few" people over there....

                        I would have thought that your MBA marketing class would allow you to see the difference between "enthusiasm" and competition. But it doesn't seem to have worked....

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                        • Originally posted by retailguy View Post
                          Can you substantiate this, or did you pull it out of your ass?
                          Out of my ass. It's my prediction for a few years down the road when factoring in tablets. I suppose it may be closer to 60% for Apple and 30% for Windows. These are foolish numbers to project, but I'm thinking big. Numbers aside, my prediction is that Android is squeezed out by Microsoft and Apple.

                          Where is Symbian? Outside the US it is the most popular operating system, and Nokia just made it open source. It's going to completely disappear? On what basis? There is a whole world outside the US, and they LOVE Nokia phones. Or maybe, Nokia just employs people to put guns to your head when you walk in the cell phone shop until you buy a Nokia phone.
                          Symbian is one hand left out of the grave. The rest is in it. It's old, it's slow, doesn't incorporate modern technologies. Why would any vendor choose this over Android, for example? No one would. Nokia is done with it. They're all in on Windows Phone 7. That's one of the reasons WP7 is going to blow up. It's really hard to find statistics on this because all of the stats on Symbian assume Nokia sticks with it.

                          You do realize that worldwide acceptance of Android went from a 35% market share in Q1 2011 to 43% in Q2 2011? I highly doubt that porting the Iphone to Sprint is going to dramatically affect those numbers. You do also realize that Sprint is soon to be the smallest major US carrier and they're losing subscribers faster than you have lost your reputuation, right? Also, the largest acceptance of Android? Southeast Asia. Last time I checked there were just a "few" people over there....
                          Android is making it's mark right now for sure. How many of those people are likely to be repeat purchasers? Probably not many. If stats are of value, 42% of Android users intend to switch to an iPhone for their next phone. 42%. That's just people leaving for the iPhone.

                          iOs is going to take Asia. Apple's presence in pre-paid is lacking to say the least. They are just entering the space. They're also just entering asia. Once they get on the two biggest networks in China it's going to be $$$ for Apple. iPad will be a huge player as well.

                          These next two years are the YOTTO for Apple. They recognize that the competition has stepped up. At least Samsung has. They're going to bring it and take care of the problem. Maybe Apple should just buy Samsung and take care of the problem that way
                          Last edited by Partial; 09-21-2011, 12:28 PM.

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                          • If APPL can keeping innovating at the pace they have for the last 10 years, I have no doubt they'll be fine. But in 5 years, iOs should probably be the sideshow by then, and not the main attraction.

                            In general, when laymen start guaranteeing that investments can't possibly lose money, that's my cue to exit. See the .com bubble, and the housing bubble.

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                            • Google: 2/3rds of our mobile search comes from Apple’s iOS

                              As part of the Senate Judiciary hearings today, former FTC official (and new Google employee) Susan Creighton, testified under oath...


                              But as part of the testimony, Michel said briefly (before she was cut off) that 2/3rds of mobile search comes from Apple iOS devices. That’s pretty interesting considering the share of Android devices in the market. But not altogether surprising considering the web browser market share which includes those millions and millions of iPads.

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                              • Mobile device brand retention rate:





                                The next nearest competitor to Apple in terms of hardware manufacturers is HTC, which earned a 39 percent retention rate among users surveyed by UBS Investment Research. The biggest loser in the survey was Research in Motion, whose retention rate has dropped from 62 percent to 33 percent in the last 18 months.

                                Rounding out the top five companies in terms of retention rates were two more Android vendors: Samsung and Motorola, earning 28 percent and 25 percent, respectively.

                                Android fared better when users were asked solely about software, as 55 percent said they would stick with Google's mobile platform. But an additional 31 percent of Android users also indicated they are likely to switch to an iPhone for their next handset, leaving Apple a sizable chunk Android users.

                                UBS analysts remarked that Apple's retention rates have held up "incredibly well," even as the market share of the iPhone continues to grow.

                                In fact, when looking solely at consumers who plan to switch smartphone makers, Apple is a huge net beneficiary. More than 50 percent of those looking to switch plan to buy an iPhone, while just 10 percent of switchers plan to ditch the iPhone.
                                I've cited other research studies with 42% of people leaving Android. Now we're seeing a new study with 55%. Ruh roh! Emphasis is my own.

                                UBS The investment firm has reiterated its "buy" rating for AAPL stock, with a price target of $510.

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