The Meadow?

[Little Whiskey]

He's got too much estrogen going on there I thing.He needs to strap on something resembling manhood; what am i imagining here. Thatv such a thing could ever be possible..

I almost Skin also took woody's avatar and submitted this post......then I saw the picture he posted. I knew it wasn't skinbasket. his picture would have sent this thing straight to the GC!

[Scott Campbell]

If Mad were to adopt the guidelines above, I would probably have at least 20 posts mocking Bretsky about the criminal Odell Thurman immediately removed.

This is the master plan to quadruple membership?

Really???????

Just how many posters have we lost to the Odell Thurman wars? I guess I didn't realize it was such a controversial issue.






Good Lord, do we really need all knowing moderators to change our diapers for us?



There are many methods of measuring and encouraging the growth of content production from the membership. And most of those methods have nothing to do with censoring disruptive behavior.

[Scott Campbell]

I almost thought Skin also took woody's avatar and submitted this post......

I can see how that might happen. Their writing styles have many similarities.

[woodbuck27]

I think if Skinbasket became the Supreme Leader of Packerrats for a year, exactly nothing would change. Every once in a while Mad turns into a Wolfman, for instance that was bullshit that he iced Skinbasket just for giving him lip. But Skin's theory that people leave Packerrats because Madtown is too strict and oppressive is baloney.

I saw an article somewhere about how forums have become quaint and nearly extinct. People are spending time on facebook, forums such as packerrats are passe. I post occasionally in another forum, and it too has shrunk the past 5 years.

Skinbasket thinks looser rules will bring more life. I doubt it. But I'd like to see if I am wrong.

I'm somewhat dubious that Skinbasket could exercise the control necessary to run Packerrats. Does he really have the temperment to deal with some of the dynamics of this place.

NO! He would make this place into that section of 'the Amusement Park Road Show' that should never be seen by 'our youth'. This forum would become obscene. That's the straight up there folks.

now get this. I have zero problem with skinbasket.he's no problem. he has common sense and well he's intelligent. That's NOT te case with Scott Campbell...who's like some tempestuour bully in an Elementry school yard at recess. Just one little tyke needs to stand up to him and kick dirt in his face to expose him. Funny this is that's easily done and been done over and over and over and he still goes on and on>>>>

Mad has done a solid job and the stress this place has placed on him the past four-six weeks has certainly beed over the top but it gets likie this some times. There is a solution but it's NOT necessarily accomplished by making HUGE change.This place simply needs a tweaking.

The Meadow is a great idea for two posters with some decent attitude to resolve maybe just a bit of misunderstanding. It is of no value to personalities likie SC and myself. I want NOTHING to do with Scott Campbell as he bores me.

[HowardRoark]

I want NOTHING to do with Scott Campbell as he bores me.

You have an interesting way of doing this. Are you Scott Campbell?

It would take a wingnut to pull it off.......

[woodbuck27]

If you had read my dissertation correctly, you would understand that it's too late for change. Putting nice clothes on a corpse or combing it's hair won't bring it back to life.

No Skinbasket. You implying that Packerrats is something cancerous or dead is hardly appropriate nor the TRUTH.

Packerrats is a solid forum that simply needs a means to control any animosity between any (TWO) members as a means to isolate their issues with one another from the general population of a general membership that doesn't give a damn for such nonsence as they are not emotionally invested in it. yes there are some here that love DRAMAand will even participate in a flame war. You have such sicko's in any community. The busy bodies we call them in Canada. These are the worst people. They just love to keep it going for their own SICK pathetic needs.

So we need 'the Meadow' as a means for any two members to work it out or stay the hell out of any real discussion untill they do or one disengages the other by absenteeism.

[woodbuck27]

The lyrics above were funny enough but hte Uranus ending was hilarious!!! Funniest thing I have seen in a while. Truely the meadow is a place of good and should be rejoiced.

The Meadow is a place where two members can go one on one and possibly forgo the BS and discover their humanity and common sence and decency.

Is that such a novel idea?

[woodbuck27]

I came here to offer an example of conduct that I think needs to be stopped, since I don't wish to be accused of hiding in dark corners or being a pussy (non-gender specific variety spinelessness).

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?p=667048#post667048

The list of transgressions this single line contains is impressive, its close to Skin's work. As the work of a troll, its impressive. But its also in the Packer's forum. And as such there is no reason for it to continue to display.

A lot of heat and debate has been created about how to encourage and expand PackerRats. I doubt there is much of an audience for this crap in a football forum.

The Packer Forum can continue to be an experiment in free speech and effective self-regulation. But if its going to grow it needs to be about football. Not drama or personal insults.

Someone needs the authority to just delete the comment. Clean, no drama about the comment. If someone wants to move it to RR, FYI or the Meadow to discuss it, fine. But it doesn't belong in the Packer Forum. There is no argument I am aware of that continuing to accept quality trolling will increase visitors or usage in that Forum. Ignoring Snake isn't a good alternative as much of his material is well worth the read. Banning someone (or suspending them) is unnecessary for a single mistake. Harlan's leave alone request is backwards for that Forum. There has to be a different standard for a post to stay.

That post needs to disappear. My 2 cents.

Here's my 2 cents in terms of specific violations of what a post should NOT be in terms of verascity:

What about a member here unqualified to do so posting that another member is mentally ill. You don't see that as crossing over any line pbmax?

I can tell you this. My parents didn't raise nor need to deal with any mentally ill children or raise them as they did to ever imagine they wouldn't be strong enough to avoid the stigma associated with such a slanderous accusation as Scott campbell insists upon over and over inferring upon me.

That has to STOP that has to be removed from the record of this forum.I do not expect he could apologize he doesn't have to decency or common sence to do somand if he diod it is BS as he is not capable of sincerety.

Scott Campbell insults not only me but my parents. Scott campbell insults my entire family tree.

[woodbuck27]

You have an interesting way of doing this. Are you Scott Campbell?

It would take a wingnut to pull it off.......

Do you truly understand the seriousness of my issue with this poster? With the degree of insult he's dumped on me?
having written that I do NOY mean to choose a side.

a) I do ask you to place yourself in my place.

b)Then just simply try to imagine your like Scott Campbell. How easy would that be?

You answer this questions for yourself. NOT to me please.

[woodbuck27]

I wonder if this is true. If it is so, I would think the repetitive insulters could be easily identified. I also think the "leave people alone who express through words and action that they don't want to keep it up" ought to be successful guideline.

I can't believe that the sort of comment that Snake made is driving people out of the Packer forum.

I agree with your assessment of the matter here harlan.It's the personal attacks that do the damage. The degree and verascity of the insult left to stand. How can a member defend him/herself?

The insult can be beyond a matter of decency 'to gross insult' and attack that has no objective foundation.

It's that uncalled for or unreasonable attack that does serious damage. Without any recourse for an amend.

In real life a person sues. Here the humiliation 'simply' stands. The gross misconduct is actually applauded by 'the most insensative' members that enjoy 'the humiliation' that their need for the feeding frenzy satisfied as the insulted member defends his/he name/person.

The sickness spreads. Packerrats as it was intended to be is compromised.

[Zool]

[Scott Campbell]

What the hell is that?

[mraynrand]

a) I do ask you to place yourself in my place.

If I were in your place, I wouldn't care what an internet poster named "Scott Campbell" wrote about me.

[mraynrand]

There are many methods of measuring and encouraging the growth of content production from the membership. And most of those methods have nothing to do with censoring disruptive behavior.

maybe you should share them with madtown

[Upnorth]

The Meadow is a place where two members can go one on one and possibly forgo the BS and discover their humanity and common sence and decency.

Is that such a novel idea?

The meadow is marriage therapy?? I preferred it when it was about funny lyrics.