More Banjo: Coronavirus And Sports

[bobblehead]

Why do you keep saying it kills more? That is beyond stupid and doesn't jive with current results seen in the real world and values projected by the CDC. You're spreading misinformation intentionally.

If an equal number of people get Covid 19 and the Flu, there were be at least 10-30x more deaths from covid based on what we've seen so far and what the CDC projects.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. "A lot more people get the flu" - No. Just no. Just no. Flu spreads to 1.3 people on average. Covid19 is 2-2.5 from the CDC. That means dramatically more people will get Covid19 given a similar window.

The reason it spreads more easily is the longer incubation period. Now that I see that it probably is no more infectious than the common flu. Most recent numbers say its about 10x more deadly, the low end that the panic merchants have touted.

[mraynrand]

Testing 300 million people who are not showing symptoms would be idiotic expensive and nearly impossible.

I could tell him that epidemiologists do controlled studies to determine population spread but he seems to already have mystical knowledge of those numbers so what’s the point. Maybe he could save us from a lot of expensive testing/research by sharing these exact numbers with the government.

[mraynrand]

The reason it spreads more easily is the longer incubation period. Now that I see that it probably is no more infectious than the common flu. Most recent numbers say its about 10x more deadly, the low end that the panic merchants have touted.

It depends on the study. At least a couple of studies show that there are far more particles in the upper respiratory system (that can be aerosolized in droplets, but then others show that many of the viral particles are quickly attenuated (dead). So I’m not entirely certain the infectiousness of this thing is slam dunk known, but right now it appears to be higher than seasonal flu.

[bobblehead]

I think we’re all hopeful of that. Right now you’re knowingly and intentionally spreading disinformation. That’s really shitty of you. Right now there are no facts to support your narrative. In a few weeks or months there might be, but right now it’s unfounded speculation based on hope and whimsy. That’s wildly irresponsible and dangerous.

He is in fact the only one here who is hitting the right cord....and I disagree with Rand often, but you are in his wheelhouse here and he has run laps around your posts.

[bobblehead]

I'm using the facts as they exist today from the CDC. That's the responsible thing to do. If anything, my approach is the *conservative* approach. If the death rate goes down because the denominator increases, the amount of deaths is still the same. It might in time prove to be less deadly than the flu, but right now there is no reason to believe that beyond hope and whimsy.

You misinterpret facts as fits your needs while also misinterpreting them due to your inherent bias.

[call_me_ishmael]

You misinterpret facts as fits your needs while also misinterpreting them due to your inherent bias.

Show me an example of this please. Enlighten me.

[call_me_ishmael]

Testing 300 million people who are not showing symptoms would be idiotic expensive and nearly impossible.

But that's what the countries that are succeeding are doing. Look no further than South Korea. Is it really expensive? We just created 6 trillion dollars out of thin air at the fed level, so STFU with the "it's expensive" BS.

And to be clear, I'm not suggesting that. I am merely stating that Tex has no idea what he's talking about. Talk to any ER doc - I know many - and they are freaking the fuck out. Froedert in Milwaukee has so few supplies that they are literally willing to take my used safety googles that I wear when I chainsaw. They're also willing to take my extra n95 masks that I have laying around in my dusty ass basement that I used to hang drywall a couple years back.

[mraynrand]

Cumby, you America-hating shithead

Crumby isn’t an America hater, he’s a Tex hater. 😀

[mraynrand]

We just created 6 trillion dollars out of thin air

Jesus wept

Why not just create the testing kits out of thin air then? And masks and TP as well. Hell, just create the damn vaccine out of thin air while you’re at it.

[pbmax]

Testing 300 million people who are not showing symptoms would be idiotic expensive and nearly impossible.

It would be good to be able to test the entire known contact list. It would greatly increase what is known about the spread and how deadly it could be.

If you could combine South Korea's testing level with physical distancing, you'd probably be able to keep a lot more public space and business open. Assuming what you get, as Rand is thinking, is good news.

The antibody testing Rand mentioned will be good too, but I think this is down the line some. Some decent planning and coordination early could have made more testing available early. This is where de-emphasizing public health hurt.

[bobblehead]

Show me an example of this please. Enlighten me.

So you can say doesn't count, pretend you were never debunked and carry on with your ways? Been there done that.

[Zool]

Oh yeah, and Zool, you continue to be a worthless piece of shit and dumb as a rock, incapable of putting a coherent sentences together much less a whole post.

Tex, you never told us about your budding music career.

[Zool]

Crumby isn’t an America hater, he’s a Tex hater. ��

One of us....one of us....one of us

[bobblehead]

It would be good to be able to test the entire known contact list. It would greatly increase what is known about the spread and how deadly it could be.

If you could combine South Korea's testing level with physical distancing, you'd probably be able to keep a lot more public space and business open. Assuming what you get, as Rand is thinking, is good news.

The antibody testing Rand mentioned will be good too, but I think this is down the line some. Some decent planning and coordination early could have made more testing available early. This is where de-emphasizing public health hurt.

And that is exactly what they are attempting to do. But partisans like Ismail pretend we are not and its frustrating.

[pbmax]

And that is exactly what they are attempting to do. But partisans like Ismail pretend we are not and its frustrating.

Valuable time was lost though.

Wisconsin is closing down this week the Governor announced.