More Banjo: Coronavirus And Sports

[texaspackerbacker]

Good Lord. Do you really not understand? Because he had not been tested, and continued to meet with people, he may have infected others, including other Senators.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/polit...rus/index.html

Do you not understand? All of that doesn't matter. Those people in virtually every case could have lived their lives in a normal stress-free except for a few minor cold symptoms and usually not even that. All of this modification of behavior shit and sacrifice, and for what? You don't think sniffles and a low grade cough for a few days is less harmful? Yeah, I suppose you do not hahahahaha.

It's disgusting that otherwise generally sensible people are buying into this silliness.

[texaspackerbacker]

What basis do you have for this claim?

That the overcrowding is the direct result of the stupid testing? You would really ask that question? Sheeeesh.

[pbmax]

Do you not understand? All of that doesn't matter. Those people in virtually every case could have lived their lives in a normal stress-free except for a few minor cold symptoms and usually not even that. All of this modification of behavior shit and sacrifice, and for what? You don't think sniffles and a low grade cough for a few days is less harmful? Yeah, I suppose you do not hahahahaha.

It's disgusting that otherwise generally sensible people are buying into this silliness.

How many people do you think you pass it to while you have it and are asymptomatic? How many while symptomatic?

How many other 73 year olds do you come into contact that aren't quite as healthy as you?

[pbmax]

I have heard, but not seen confirmed that seasonal flu gets passed by an infected person to 1.3 or 1.4 other persons.

And that corona gets passed to close to 3 others. Anyone else have material on the transmission rate?

Rands post of the Imperial College methodology doesn't really mention it. It seems to model on other viruses they know about.

[texaspackerbacker]

How many people do you think you pass it to while you have it and are asymptomatic? How many while symptomatic?

How many other 73 year olds do you come into contact that aren't quite as healthy as you?

Last question first: a small sample, but maybe 1 out of a dozen or so who is much less healthy. Strictly speaking, though, almost nobody my age is quite as healthy as me hahahahaha.

Passing it on while asymptomatic? Last I heard, the jury is still out on this - maybe zero, maybe a lot. Optimist that I am, I lean toward the zero.

While symptomatic? I suppose anybody you cough close enough to or that touches the residue of your symptoms and touches their own whatever before washing thoroughly.

In both cases, the point is that whoever a person might spread it to is likely not to suffer significantly at all - nothing compared to what every American is suffering from the stupid overreaction to all this shit.

[call_me_ishmael]

That’s still 50-100/day and they get seasonal flu too., which kills a lot more than corona, and would be spiking about the same time. So unless they’re burning the bodies in one big outdoor pile like Jawas, I’m skeptical.

Why do you keep saying it kills more? That is beyond stupid and doesn't jive with current results seen in the real world and values projected by the CDC. You're spreading misinformation intentionally.

If an equal number of people get Covid 19 and the Flu, there were be at least 10-30x more deaths from covid based on what we've seen so far and what the CDC projects.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. "A lot more people get the flu" - No. Just no. Just no. Flu spreads to 1.3 people on average. Covid19 is 2-2.5 from the CDC. That means dramatically more people will get Covid19 given a similar window.

[call_me_ishmael]

These are the facts as they are known today. The source is the CDC.

[call_me_ishmael]

If the curve we're on continues (it won't entirely due to social distancing), in five weeks we'd have:
Today: 34,717 cases

Tuesday: 69,434 cases
Friday: 138,868 cases

Monday: 277,736 cases
Thursday: 555,472 cases
Sunday: 1,110,944 cases

Wednesay: 2,221,888 cases
Saturday: 4,443,776 cases

Tuesday: 8,887,552 cases
Friday: 17,775,104 cases

Monday: 35,550,208 cases
Thursday: 71,100,416 cases
Sunday: 142,200,832 cases

Or nearly 4x the average flu season.

Having the exponential growth in front of us, let's say the death rate is 1% - which is presently on the low end of projections from the CDC. That brings us to 142,201 deaths in the next 5 weeks.

Will this happen in reality? Of course not, we know about the virus spread now, people are taking it seriously, schools are shut down, etc and most cities are taking the measures to keep their people home, with the bigger ones requiring people to shelter in place. I expect the growth rate to be quelled majorly any day now. To be crystal clear, the growth of the flu would be stymied by the measures we're taking, too.

I suspect the whole "15 days to stop the spread" gets extended to 30 days.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Last question first: a small sample, but maybe 1 out of a dozen or so who is much less healthy. Strictly speaking, though, almost nobody my age is quite as healthy as me hahahahaha.

Passing it on while asymptomatic? Last I heard, the jury is still out on this - maybe zero, maybe a lot. Optimist that I am, I lean toward the zero.

While symptomatic? I suppose anybody you cough close enough to or that touches the residue of your symptoms and touches their own whatever before washing thoroughly.

In both cases, the point is that whoever a person might spread it to is likely not to suffer significantly at all - nothing compared to what every American is suffering from the stupid overreaction to all this shit.

I don't understand why you continue to make these baseless claims when the hard evidence coming from the field (medical evidence from other countries and now in the US) continue to build against you? The sad part is there are many other people that believe the same shit, which eventually leads to forced lockdowns. In any event, I hope all the rats have prepped accordingly and we all make it to the other side of this so we can continue to root for the Packers. P.S. I do agree it is boring as fuck not being able to go to bars, restaurants, gyms, etc although I imagine being hooked up to a ventilator aint so hot either.

[sharpe1027]

That the overcrowding is the direct result of the stupid testing? You would really ask that question? Sheeeesh.

So, no basis. Got it.

[sharpe1027]

That the overcrowding is the direct result of the stupid testing? You would really ask that question? Sheeeesh.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/21/...ients-at-home/

. With 70% of ICU beds reserved for critically ill Covid-19 patients, those beds are being allocated only to those “with a reasonable chance to survive,” as physicians make wrenching triage choices to try to keep alive those who have a chance. “Older patients are not being resuscitated and die alone without appropriate palliative care, while the family is notified over the phone, often by a well-intentioned, exhausted, and emotionally depleted physician with no prior contact,” they report.

Sure sounds like a lot of needless people at the hospital. God Damn, Tex. Have you no empathy?

[Zool]

God Damn, Tex. Have you no empathy?

[pbmax]

Watched that this weekend again.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't understand why you continue to make these baseless claims when the hard evidence coming from the field (medical evidence from other countries and now in the US) continue to build against you? The sad part is there are many other people that believe the same shit, which eventually leads to forced lockdowns. In any event, I hope all the rats have prepped accordingly and we all make it to the other side of this so we can continue to root for the Packers. P.S. I do agree it is boring as fuck not being able to go to bars, restaurants, gyms, etc although I imagine being hooked up to a ventilator aint so hot either.

Be at least a little bit specific. What do you see as a "baseless claim"? Common sense is often seen as "baseless" among panic-mongers, I guess.

[texaspackerbacker]

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/21/...ients-at-home/



Sure sounds like a lot of needless people at the hospital. God Damn, Tex. Have you no empathy?

Empathy? For druggies catching AIDS from needles? Hell no, not for that. That's the only time I mentioned empathy.

This hospital crowding thing? You have it exactly backwards - surprise surprise. If they don't have enough beds for truly sick old people dying from corona or whatever (and that is a very shaky claim just about everywhere in the country), the reason is the herding of people with mild or no symptoms into hospitals unnecessarily.

If I'm gonna have empathy, it's gonna be for the huge majority of good normal people, not a few exceptional cases, and absolutely not for shithead druggies and others who suffer because of bad choices they make.

Oh yeah, and Zool, you continue to be a worthless piece of shit and dumb as a rock, incapable of putting a coherent sentences together much less a whole post.