Global Warming

[SkinBasket]

Alright. Let's get serious here. I stole this from Cyclone's post a few months back. My apologies:



As you can see, the only way to effectively combat global warming on any meaningful level is to become a pirate. Do it for your country. Do it for your unborn grandchildren. Do it for the crying forests.

I don't mean to tangentalize your thread Partial, but here's the link to the good ol' thread on global warming. If you like vicious, sometimes drunken, almost always under-informed discussion on a pseudo-political topic, then have a read. I know it pulled a few heart strings for me.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=1269&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[Zool]

Yarrrr....these stats be revealin the truth.

[rdanomly]

Debating it at this point seems almost pointless to me. Either you agree with the majority of trained professionals or you don't. What matters at this point is how we all act. You can "believe" in global warming all you want, but if you don't do anything to affect change that belief doesn't mean anything.

Gradually buy CFLs, Get a home audit by a HERS rater or BPI certified building professional, look at where you work to see what energy conservation can be done. Hell, if you don't care about the environment, do it because it can save you some money. There are countless other things that can be done to reduce CO2, conserve energy, and save some $. It is a win-win. Anyone else have ideas on what can be done?

[Merlin]

Global Warming is a myth. We do not have enough scientific data for the earth to say that the sky is falling. That is a fact. Not so long ago these same scientists were claiming we were going into the next ice age. So which is it? For those of you who think that humans are the cause of the problem, you do know that one volcanic eruption causes more toxins to be released into the air then man has released the entire time since the gasoline engine was introduced? Well if you don't know that, now you do.

Pollution is the only issue. It's not up to our government to protect us from ourselves. It's up to us to have enough respect for each other to want to do something about it.

Face it, nothing ever got better once the government got involved. The only thing I can say that happened was that taxes went up, the deficit went up and a 535 people got wealthier (that would be congress). For those of you who think the government is knee deep into the oil companies, I sure hope you aren't picking one side or the other for that one. Many people in both parties have oil investments. The problem is, some of you believe the rhetoric spewed by your local politician that says it's them and not me. Before you vote, next time do some homework on your representative, you may find out that they don't share anything in common with you accept that they don't like whoever the president is. Voting for that person based on that is purely idiotic!

[Partial]

So Merlin, how do you explain the largest ice cap ever recorded breaking off of greenland this week?

[SkinBasket]

So Merlin, how do you explain the largest ice cap ever recorded breaking off of greenland this week?

I'm not Merlin, but if I were I would say, "Records were made to be broken."

I would then ask what the ratio between the volume of the iceberg vs. the volume of the ocean is. Hell, I'll even take the ratio of iceberg vs. the Atlantic.

[Kiwon]

So because Fox News doesn't like some guy at The U.N. (Shocking!), that refutes claims about Global Warming?

So because Fox News publishes a well-researched 4000-word article by two reporters exposing the corruption at the U.N. (Shocking!) that validates claims about Global Warming?

[Charles Woodson]

Call me self absorbed or whatever but i dont understand whats the need to care about global warming and such, its not going to end ther world while me or my kids or my grandkids are around, besides its not even proven

[Zool]

Global warming or not, you have to realize that pollution is horrible for the planet. Go to LA sometime. There is a gray/brown cloud over the entire place. You cough when you first get there. Gasoline and deisel needs to go the way of the dodo.

[SkinBasket]

Global warming or not, you have to realize that pollution is horrible for the planet. Go to LA sometime. There is a gray/brown cloud over the entire place. You cough when you first get there. Gasoline and deisel needs to go the way of the dodo.

How will all of our dark visions of dirty futuristic metropolises come to pass if we clean everything up? If you're not careful the future will look more like Demolition Man, and we all know how that turned out.



Do you really want this to be as good as the future gets?

[Zool]

Nice Demolition Man reference. Sly Stallone, Rob Schneider and Sandy Bullock fighting crime in the future.


"In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell"

[red]

Global warming or not, you have to realize that pollution is horrible for the planet. Go to LA sometime. There is a gray/brown cloud over the entire place. You cough when you first get there. Gasoline and deisel needs to go the way of the dodo.

How will all of our dark visions of dirty futuristic metropolises come to pass if we clean everything up? If you're not careful the future will look more like Demolition Man, and we all know how that turned out.



Do you really want this to be as good as the future gets?

i don't think anybody wants to learn how to use those sea shells

[Merlin]

If you can explain why we are not experiencing the warmest average weather on record currently. Or if you can explain how these "experts" predicted during the 1980's that we were entering the next ice age and then 20 years later said that 15 of the warmest years in history were since 1980 (THE SAME EXPERTS!) so now it's global warming. If you can explain how since records have only been kept since 1867 (and we all know the planet is ONLY 140 years old right?) that how can these "records" be anything but a joke? While 2001 was the second warmest year since records have been kept, it certainly is not the warmest. These "experts" say that 1998 was the warmest but I also seem to remember that 1935 was called the warmest. They can't even agree on which was the warmest so you are prepared to believe one side or the other?????????

Fact remains: One volcanic eruption is > all the pollution man has made into the atmosphere. That is a proven scientific fact. It is also a scientific fact that atmospheric pollution has gone down considerably since the industrial revolution began almost 80 years ago.

As far as ice falling into the ocean, um ISN'T THAT WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO?

You do know that despite the chicken littles out there claiming the sky is falling that the ice caps a continue to get THICKER every year?

You do know that if you have a short fat 20 oz glass of water and replace it with a tall skinny 20 oz glass of water that you STILL HAVE 20 ounces of water?

[Partial]

If you can explain why we are not experiencing the warmest average weather on record currently. Or if you can explain how these "experts" predicted during the 1980's that we were entering the next ice age and then 20 years later said that 15 of the warmest years in history were since 1980 (THE SAME EXPERTS!) so now it's global warming. If you can explain how since records have only been kept since 1867 (and we all know the planet is ONLY 140 years old right?) that how can these "records" be anything but a joke? While 2001 was the second warmest year since records have been kept, it certainly is not the warmest. These "experts" say that 1998 was the warmest but I also seem to remember that 1935 was called the warmest. They can't even agree on which was the warmest so you are prepared to believe one side or the other?????????

Its called a trend line.

Fact remains: One volcanic eruption is > all the pollution man has made into the atmosphere. That is a proven scientific fact. It is also a scientific fact that atmospheric pollution has gone down considerably since the industrial revolution began almost 80 years ago.

Source? I'd like to see evidence of this.

As far as ice falling into the ocean, um ISN'T THAT WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO?

It's existed for thousands of years in its present state and suddenly melts right off?

You do know that despite the chicken littles out there claiming the sky is falling that the ice caps a continue to get THICKER every year?

Source? Proof?

You do know that if you have a short fat 20 oz glass of water and replace it with a tall skinny 20 oz glass of water that you STILL HAVE 20 ounces of water?

That's correct, but irrelevant.

[mraynrand]

Scientists also claim that the first eukaryotic cell emerged 3,800 million years ago. Of this they are certain. I'd doubt them, if not for the fact that I was there and saw it happen.


I predict that by 2158, the Earth will be encased in a 400 mile thick cellulose sheild excreted by a mutant, 600 mile wide, Mediterranean crustacean. I'll bet you 1,000,000 dollars I'm right. Want to knock this block off? - c'mon, I DARE you!