The USA is going to hell in a handbasket

[Kiwon]

'Mammal to mammal love'

The men heard in the film are remarkably honest about their motivations. One of them argues "mammal to mammal" love should not be seen as wrong.

Another firmly rejects the tag "bad person" his employer lays upon him before he is sacked. They all say the horses were willing participants.
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Yeah, I can hear it now. "Hey, Tom. That horse over there just winked at you. I think he likes you."

[GoPackGo]

'Mammal to mammal love'

The men heard in the film are remarkably honest about their motivations. One of them argues "mammal to mammal" love should not be seen as wrong.

Another firmly rejects the tag "bad person" his employer lays upon him before he is sacked. They all say the horses were willing participants.
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Yeah, I can hear it now. "Hey, Tom. That horse over there just winked at you. I think he likes you."

"They say all of the horses were willing participants"

what a joke, Can the horses speak for themselves? Did they have sex with Mr. Ed? Next it will be ok for these pervs to get F***** by retarded people because "they were willing participants. "

[swede]

Well...ahem..back to the border debate.

If you were the chaperone at a dance and you found that many people had gotten into the dance without paying, some causing trouble and some dancing peacefully, and that even as you discovered the problem many were still coming in through a lengthy bank of open doors on the south side of the gym would you...?

a) grant "amnesty" to those that had snuck in and do nothing else.

b) attempt to find everyone that had snuck in and escort them out before doing anything else.

c) send another chaperone to watch the open doors.

d) decorate the doors with crepe paper and call them secure.

or e) close the doors.


That is why I don't get the debate. What's to debate? Close the doors.

[the_idle_threat]

I'm not arguing with that conclusion necessarily, but is it that easy? How do we close a "door" that's thousands of miles long?

And you still have to figure out what to do with the folks who got into the dance without paying. Is it "amnesty," escort them out, or something else? It's one hell of a bugaboo.

[Zool]

Further proof

[packinpatland]

'Mammal to mammal love'

The men heard in the film are remarkably honest about their motivations. One of them argues "mammal to mammal" love should not be seen as wrong.

Another firmly rejects the tag "bad person" his employer lays upon him before he is sacked. They all say the horses were willing participants.
.................................................. ............................

Yeah, I can hear it now. "Hey, Tom. That horse over there just winked at you. I think he likes you."

"They say all of the horses were willing participants"

what a joke, Can the horses speak for themselves? Did they have sex with Mr. Ed? Next it will be ok for these pervs to get F***** by retarded people because "they were willing participants. "

You know you crossed the line on this one, right?

I think I understand your intent, just badly chosen wording.

[GoPackGo]

It might have been a crass statement, but people like them make me sick