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  • Do yourself a favor...............

    To the moderators of this site: I understand that this post is "off topic", and I apologize. After watching this film, I am simply trying to tell as many people about it as i possibly can.




    Watch the Movie "Sicko".


    Michael moore's new film "Sicko" is something that I recommend that everyone watch. If you are not disgusted with our government and the health care system in this country after watching this film, there is something wrong with you.

    The movie talks very briefly about the number of Americans that do not have health insurance, but it mainly points out how bad our health care system is for people who actually do have health insurance.

    There are so many examples in this film of how corrupt the insurance industry and health care in our country have become. Insurance companies actually have people on their payroll who's job, is to find any reason that they can come up with to deny your claim.
    One example that had me disgusted, was a woman who racked up $8,000. in hospital bills. Everything should have been covered under her insurance policy, and in fact was at first payed for by her insurance. Until, her insurance company did some digging and found out that 7 years prior, she had had a yeast infection. A simple yeast infection that simply called for a tube of ointment. Since she had failed to disclose the yeast infection (again, from 7 years prior), the insurance company "dropped" her and she was left with $8,000. in hospital bills that should have been covered by her insurance.

    The film shows one example after another of people who have health insurance, and yet find themselves in huge financial trouble because of the corruption in our health care system. Those are the lucky ones. The film also gives many examples of people who needlessly died because their insurance company refused to cover the illnesses that they were suffering from, or because their insurance would only work at, or with, certain health care providers. An example that I recall, was a mother who took her daughter to the nearest hospital, with a fever of over 104. Her insurance was no good at that particular hospital, and they refused to even look at her daughter. By the time that she managed to get across town to a hospital that did accept her particular insurance, her daughter died, and couldn't be revived.

    Politically, the film gives you a few very good examples of how corrupt our government is when it comes to health care. Starting with recordings of Richard Nixon discussing heath insurance over the phone with another man. The part of the conversation that makes you say "Holy Shit", is where Nixon and this guy talk about how much profit there is to be made in the health care industry, if only more claims could be denied and less care given. The very day after this conversation, Nixon was on television pushing his new health care policy. Very disgusting.
    Another example was of Republican Congressman Billy Tosman. He managed to get a bill put through congress that allowed the drug companies to charge whatever they wanted for drugs. In his speeches he kept repeating "nobody loves their mother any more than I love mine." He pushed the bill as a way to lower drug costs for seniors. It actually allowed drug companies to charge whatever they wanted, and made the drugs even more expensive. After the bill was passed, 14 congressional aides involved with getting this bill passed, quit their jobs on the hill and went to work for the health care industry. Congressman Tosman himself left congress to take a job as CEO of Pharma, the drug industry lobby, for a salary of 2 MILLION dollars a year. Blatant corruption slapping every single one of us in the face.

    The film gives many many more sad examples of the corruption in our health care/insurance industry. Yet it becomes even sadder, when you take into consideration that compared to other countries, our country ranks 28'th in health care for its citizens. There are 3rd world countries with better health care than ours. In most countries, health care is totally free, paid for by taxes, just like police service, and fire fightingl, and the film does a great job of pointing that out with many many examples.

    I could go on and on about the things that I learned in this film, but I think you should really watch it yourself. I am not the type of person to tell anyone else what they should or should not watch, but in this case, I have to make an exception, I cannot possibly reccomend that you watch this film enough.

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    If you realized it would be moved, then why didn't you just post it there in the first place?

    I wouldn't watch a Fatty Hypocrite movie if it was the last on Earth. Apparently, his latest "documentaries" weren't the only ones that had blatant lies in them. Even his best work, Roger and Me, was based on blatant lies. Pretty hard to watch a "documentary" filmmaker who has proven to be untrustworthy. Personally, I want the truth about something--whether it supports or debunks my view. So, I won't be watching a guy whose goals in life are to fatten his wallet and support his political views by any means necessary.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      I haven't seen the film but am equally disgusted with the health care issues. I work for a small private company and we have struggled with health care issues for the past several years, continually decreasing benefits but the costs continue to rise exponentially. It is criminal what the insurance companies get away with. Rising costs and poor coverage are increasing the number of people who aren't covered which in turn increases costs even more. It's a sad situation for a nation like ours, and I consider it a national crisis.

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      • #4
        Re: Do yourself a favor...............

        Originally posted by PackerBlues
        To the moderators of this site: I understand that this post is "off topic", and I apologize. After watching this film, I am simply trying to tell as many people about it as i possibly can.
        Nothing to apologize for. We talk about everything here at PackerRats. But OT threads have a place and that is the Romper Room which is where this thread is headed.

        Check it out, you will likely find most of the current headlines, movies, and everything under the sun being discussed in the "RR".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          If you realized it would be moved, then why didn't you just post it there in the first place?

          I wouldn't watch a Fatty Hypocrite movie if it was the last on Earth. Apparently, his latest "documentaries" weren't the only ones that had blatant lies in them. Even his best work, Roger and Me, was based on blatant lies. Pretty hard to watch a "documentary" filmmaker who has proven to be untrustworthy. Personally, I want the truth about something--whether it supports or debunks my view. So, I won't be watching a guy whose goals in life are to fatten his wallet and support his political views by any means necessary.
          Lying and fattening the wallet! It's the American way.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            If you realized it would be moved, then why didn't you just post it there in the first place?

            I wouldn't watch a Fatty Hypocrite movie if it was the last on Earth. Apparently, his latest "documentaries" weren't the only ones that had blatant lies in them. Even his best work, Roger and Me, was based on blatant lies. Pretty hard to watch a "documentary" filmmaker who has proven to be untrustworthy. Personally, I want the truth about something--whether it supports or debunks my view. So, I won't be watching a guy whose goals in life are to fatten his wallet and support his political views by any means necessary.
            The film is not politically motivated. Not at all. Yes, it does give a couple of examples of blatantly corrupt politicians, but it points to democrats as well as republicans. Example: Hillary Clinton was very big on a universal health care system. It got her the votes she needed. She seems to have lost her desire to push for universal health care, now that nationwide, she is the No. 2 recipient of donations from the health care industry, trailing only Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a member of the Republican leadership.
            I find it amazing that you are so quick to assume that this film is "full of lies" without even watching it.

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            • #7
              Sorry PackerBlues but Fatboy Moore has been caught slipping on many, many things and has lost major cred. I don't buy what he says anymore either and he is completely to blame for that.

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              • #8
                Most folks don't need Moore to tell us how messed up our Healthcare system is.
                C.H.U.D.

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                • #9
                  I'll never forgive Michael Moore for blowing up Team America headquarters. How could you do that?!? You bastard!





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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                    Sorry PackerBlues but Fatboy Moore has been caught slipping on many, many things and has lost major cred. I don't buy what he says anymore either and he is completely to blame for that.
                    Thats your call, and I am not going to bash your opinion. This is however a different kind of film than you are used to seeing from Moore. The story that you posted of the woman dying in the hospital because they wouldnt treat her, was sad and disgusting. Moore's film is full of those kinds of stories. But whats even worse, the majority of the stories this film will tell you about, are about people that HAVE health insurance, but still cannot get treatment, simply because the health care industry in this country is all about making a profit. Again, I would point at the Nixon tapes, where Nixon is heard talking about how much profit could be made by denying more claims and providing less care to the insured.

                    It will not hurt you in the least to view this movie, if anything, it will open your eyes a bit.

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                    • #11
                      There are plenty of things in this nation that are out of whack...including the entertainment industry that Moore hails from. I haven't seen any documentary yet contribute to anything more than window dressing some of the symptoms. The underlying cause...the denegrating morality of the society as a whole...rarely is brought up, especially by a guy like Moore.

                      If you want the insurance industry...or ANY industry...to be charitable and honest, you need people with morals working there. Our society has lost its wealth of morality...which is why we are quickly heading into the crapper, just as Greece and Rome did before us.
                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PackerBlues
                        It will not hurt you in the least to view this movie, if anything, it will open your eyes a bit.
                        I won't say I'm not gonna watch it cuz there is a good chance I will but I am saying that Moore isn't the beacon of truth he claimed to be.

                        But then again what public figure really is?

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                        • #13
                          When Moore does these 'to educate and inform" films, how much revenue is generated, and where, besides his pockets does it all go?

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                          • #14
                            In this film, Moore simply asks people to open their eyes, and compare our health care system to just about any other countries. We are the most powerful country in the world, and yet our health care system is a complete and total joke compared to even some 3rd world countries.

                            One story in the film was about an uninsured man who accidentally cut the ends off of two of his fingers with a table saw. He was told that it would cost $12,000, to re-attach the one finger tip, and $60,000 to re-attach the other. He went with the $12,000 finger and said fuck the other one.

                            Compare that to the guy in Britain, who lost all the fingers on one hand, yet didnt have to worry about insurance due to the universal health care system they have. He had every finger re-attached, and did not have to pay a dime for it.

                            Again, in many countries, health care is a service paid for through taxes just like Police protection, and fire departments.

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                            • #15
                              Packerblues wrote: trailing only Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a member of the Republican leadership.
                              How old is this movie? Rick Santorum was voted out of office last November and has been replaced by a Democrat, Bob Casey Jr.

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