Ron Paul

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Obama has been a Senator for 2 years and has spent the whole time campaigning to be president, not addressing issues.

Not really. He intended to finish his work in the senate and then run in 2012. However, with all the hype surrounding him, he made the smart deceision and ran now.

So the whole "He hasn't done jack, besides campaigning" shtick isn't really that accurate.

Sounds like it's kind of accurate based upon your own statement above, BH. He intended to finish his "work" in the Senate, but was interrupted by his calling to be president. It's not like he was in the Senate very long and can point to a long list of accomplishments there.

And in any case, Senatorial experience doesn't translate very well to the executive office. Sure, he can act as part of a 100-member body, but how is he as a leader? It's a huge question mark. Perhaps this is one reason why ex-Senators aren't often elected to the chief executive office. Hasn't the Democratic party learned anything from the past two presidential elections???

ding ding ding ding.

That's why Governor Bush is president, Governor Clinton was president, and why Senator Kerry was not ever the president.

Fred Thompson has a decent shot but Guiliani is going to win New York which would be absolutely huge for the GOP.

[LL2]

I used to really follow politics but haven't for some years now. I don't want to see Obama or Hillary elected, but not sure if I want Guliani or Romney either. If I had to choose right now the lesser of the evils would be Guliani or Romney. The far liberal socialize everything bent of Obama and Hillary scare me.

Maybe Merlin, who seems to follow politics, can throw in his two cents.

[Jimx29]

Never quite understood that whole transgender dealio.

I was thinking the same thing ...

But they do say the tallest candidate usually has an advantage in an election.

glad i'm not the only one that has thoughts like that

[Cheesehead Craig]

My opinion is this:

A Senator is very very unlikely to win the Presidency, the last one was Kennedy over 40 yrs ago. Why? His/her voting record comes under constant scrutiny and attack. The longer a person is a Senator, the less likely they can be voted in.

A Governor is much more likely to make it as president as their job is essentially a training ground for the job. They have to deal with the legislative and judicial bodies on laws, budgets and initiatives. They also do some direct, limited dealings with foreign countries. Just like the president, but only on a smaller scale.

As much as I like Obama, I don't think he'll beat Hillary, but then who gave Jesse Ventura a chance? Assuming Hillary makes it, she's too divisive of a candidate. You either love her or hate her. If she has to go toe to toe with Guiliani, I don't think she can win as Rudy has charisma and likeability in spades and he'll just need to keep hammering home that he got NYC through 9/11 and he'll get the votes, even if some are out of sympathy over what happened.

Again, just my opinion.

[MJZiggy]

Only thing is, I hear Giulliani's wife is a real piece of work and could be a serious PR problem for him.

[BallHawk]

Only thing is, I hear Giulliani's wife is a real piece of work and could be a serious PR problem for him.

He could just divorce her. I think he's knows his way around divorce laws in the state of New York.

[lonely t-set]

Never quite understood that whole transgender dealio.

I was thinking the same thing ...

But they do say the tallest candidate usually has an advantage in an election.

sounds like you have a crush.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Obama has been a Senator for 2 years and has spent the whole time campaigning to be president, not addressing issues.

Not really. He intended to finish his work in the senate and then run in 2012. However, with all the hype surrounding him, he made the smart deceision and ran now.

So the whole "He hasn't done jack, besides campaigning" shtick isn't really that accurate.

I refuse to address Tyrone since he is a troll and nothing more.

What has he done?!??!? How has he made Illinois a better place to live??!???!?

He hasn't done jack. He talks a good game. I can think of another guy who did that that ended up impeacher and didn't do a lot for our country.

He isn't going to win. And good riddance for that. We need another strong GOP candidate. Just not Bush and Cheney and the Haliburton fun that comes along with them.

I'm far from a troll.

You are just an idiot who makes ridiculous statements. That is why you don't respond. Backbone of the internet..refuted.

Better place: Um, sorry, the nature of the senate isn't about making your home state better..unless you are now complaining that he hasn't gotten enough pork.

Impeacher: um, are you referring to Nixon. That is the only president impeached. yea, it would suck to have another clinton in office..good employment, surging economy, not despised by the rest of the world, etc.

[MJZiggy]

You forgot the budget surplus. What did Bush spend that on again?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

My opinion is this:

A Senator is very very unlikely to win the Presidency, the last one was Kennedy over 40 yrs ago. Why? His/her voting record comes under constant scrutiny and attack. The longer a person is a Senator, the less likely they can be voted in.

A Governor is much more likely to make it as president as their job is essentially a training ground for the job. They have to deal with the legislative and judicial bodies on laws, budgets and initiatives. They also do some direct, limited dealings with foreign countries. Just like the president, but only on a smaller scale.

As much as I like Obama, I don't think he'll beat Hillary, but then who gave Jesse Ventura a chance? Assuming Hillary makes it, she's too divisive of a candidate. You either love her or hate her. If she has to go toe to toe with Guiliani, I don't think she can win as Rudy has charisma and likeability in spades and he'll just need to keep hammering home that he got NYC through 9/11 and he'll get the votes, even if some are out of sympathy over what happened.

Again, just my opinion.

Giuliani likeable. Oh, lord, please stop making me laugh.

Do you really know anything about him. He is far from likable. Perhaps you should ask those from NYC about him. His career was over before 9/11.

[Freak Out]

My opinion is this:

A Senator is very very unlikely to win the Presidency, the last one was Kennedy over 40 yrs ago. Why? His/her voting record comes under constant scrutiny and attack. The longer a person is a Senator, the less likely they can be voted in.

A Governor is much more likely to make it as president as their job is essentially a training ground for the job. They have to deal with the legislative and judicial bodies on laws, budgets and initiatives. They also do some direct, limited dealings with foreign countries. Just like the president, but only on a smaller scale.

As much as I like Obama, I don't think he'll beat Hillary, but then who gave Jesse Ventura a chance? Assuming Hillary makes it, she's too divisive of a candidate. You either love her or hate her. If she has to go toe to toe with Guiliani, I don't think she can win as Rudy has charisma and likeability in spades and he'll just need to keep hammering home that he got NYC through 9/11 and he'll get the votes, even if some are out of sympathy over what happened.

Again, just my opinion.

Giuliani likeable. Oh, lord, please stop making me laugh.

Do you really know anything about him. He is far from likable. Perhaps you should ask those from NYC about him. His career was over before 9/11.

I think Dubya is a simpleton and a complete failure and still think Rudy would be worse. Well....maybe not worse.

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Obama has been a Senator for 2 years and has spent the whole time campaigning to be president, not addressing issues.

Not really. He intended to finish his work in the senate and then run in 2012. However, with all the hype surrounding him, he made the smart deceision and ran now.

So the whole "He hasn't done jack, besides campaigning" shtick isn't really that accurate.

I refuse to address Tyrone since he is a troll and nothing more.

What has he done?!??!? How has he made Illinois a better place to live??!???!?

He hasn't done jack. He talks a good game. I can think of another guy who did that that ended up impeacher and didn't do a lot for our country.

He isn't going to win. And good riddance for that. We need another strong GOP candidate. Just not Bush and Cheney and the Haliburton fun that comes along with them.

I'm far from a troll.

You are just an idiot who makes ridiculous statements. That is why you don't respond. Backbone of the internet..refuted.

Better place: Um, sorry, the nature of the senate isn't about making your home state better..unless you are now complaining that he hasn't gotten enough pork.

Impeacher: um, are you referring to Nixon. That is the only president impeached. yea, it would suck to have another clinton in office..good employment, surging economy, not despised by the rest of the world, etc.

I am an idiot? Exactly what have you done in this world? What is your career and qualifications? What has the baggins family historically done? My thoughts are you are a pompass ass who is still riding the "I went to Madison" pretentious asshole syndrome while finally reaching middle-management at your company around 35. Now that you're in your late 30's my guess is you're bitter because you've come to realize you don't have any real skills and like to nitpick on facts in online chat forums where you can anonymously be "the man" that you can't be in the real world.

You should really look into the back bone of the internet because I can verify my claims but would rather you learn something on your own instead of regurgitating the facts you'll learn from the first page of a poorly worded google search. It is something like 30% connects directly through AT&T and another large portion connects indirectly through AT&T.

Obama hasn't done anything because since being elected he has had his eyes set on bigger things. What has he done!?!? I have asked 3-4 times in this thread now and not a single person has provided an explanation. The reason for this is he hasn't done anything. He's all talk and no walk. Exactly what this country does not need.

Actually, since you like to nitpick, you should go get your facts straight because Nixon was not impeached. He resigned prior to the inevitable impeachment. Clinton on the other hand was impeached by the house, as I correctly stated. Zoom zoom zoom.

And as far as Guiliani being likable, why did he have a 92% approval rating on October 2nd of 2001? Or how about winning the election in 1997 by a margin of 18%? Seems fairly popular to me.

On that note, please stop addressing me troll. I don't like wasting my time dealing with Jackasses. You make Merlin look like a phD candidate!

[Freak Out]

A. Johnson and Clinton were the only Presidents impeached by the house. Nixon resigned before he could be......arguably Johnson and Clinton were impeached for political reasons not high crimes..as far as I remember Clinton never lied under oath.

[BallHawk]

And as far as Guiliani being likable, why did he have a 92% approval rating on October 2nd of 2001?

Why the f*ck do you think? Because NY had been struck by a terrorist attack and he was the knight in shining armor.

For the last 6 goddamn years that's all he's been about, September of 2001.

[Joemailman]

Obama has been a Senator for 2 years and has spent the whole time campaigning to be president, not addressing issues.

Not really. He intended to finish his work in the senate and then run in 2012. However, with all the hype surrounding him, he made the smart deceision and ran now.

So the whole "He hasn't done jack, besides campaigning" shtick isn't really that accurate.

Sounds like it's kind of accurate based upon your own statement above, BH. He intended to finish his "work" in the Senate, but was interrupted by his calling to be president. It's not like he was in the Senate very long and can point to a long list of accomplishments there.

And in any case, Senatorial experience doesn't translate very well to the executive office. Sure, he can act as part of a 100-member body, but how is he as a leader? It's a huge question mark. Perhaps this is one reason why ex-Senators aren't often elected to the chief executive office. Hasn't the Democratic party learned anything from the past two presidential elections???

ding ding ding ding.

That's why Governor Bush is president, Governor Clinton was president, and why Senator Kerry was not ever the president.

Fred Thompson has a decent shot but Guiliani is going to win New York which would be absolutely huge for the GOP.

Giuliani will not win New York. People tend to forget how unpopular he was before 9/11. Try as he might, he won't be able to ride 9/11 to victory. If he somehow wins the Republication nomination (which he won't), the scrutiny will kill him. He's got more skeletons in the closet than Dahmer. I suspect the race will be Obama vs. Romney. People are fed up with Washington, and neither of these guys are considered to be Washington insiders.