2008 OFFICIAL DRAFT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[woodbuck27]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

TTed Thompson had way too many other options.
He picked a one year wonder boy who looked good- great at the Senior Bowl.

He was slated as at best bet a 3rd Rd. draft pick.

A reach? :D

TT's a bag of gas. Wait. . . now he's drafting for FAVRE. OK!! :D

[BF4MVP]

BUF takes Hardy

[Rastak]

Bills take James Hardy......(hmmm, was hoping he'd drop some)


Strengths: Flashes the ability to get a clean release working against press coverage and can get open quickly when corners give him a cushion. Athletic and fluid changing directions when footwork is sound. Shows good toughness over the middle and can hold onto the ball after taking the big hit. Doesn't have great top-end speed but is a long-strider, shows good sideline awareness and tracks the ball fairly well so can make the occasional play downfield. Has excellent size and rarely gets muscled out of routes. Stays alert, shows good awareness and works back to the quarterback when the protection starts to break down. Uses wide frame to shield defenders from the ball and can make tough catches in traffic. Snatches the ball out of the air, is fluid turning upfield after catches and can pick up yards after contact. Times jumps well and has the potential to develop into a productive red zone target.

Weaknesses: Rounds off too many cuts, doesn't set corners up by changing speeds and is an inconsistent route-runner at this point. Lacks ideal explosiveness and is going to have a harder time separating from man coverage at the NFL level. Takes too long to reach top speed, isn't going to make defenders miss in space and isn't much of a big-play threat after the catch. While has great size and flashes the ability to get into position doesn't play with enough of a mean streak and effort is inconsistent when blocking. Indiana suspended him for two games for an off-the-field incident in 2006 and character is somewhat of a concern.

Overall: Indiana red-shirted Hardy during his true freshman season in 2004. Hardy appeared in ten games during the 2005 season. In 2006, he appeared in ten games recording 51 catches, 722 receiving yards and ten receiving touchdowns. Hardy appeared in all 13 games of the 2007 season recording 79 catches, 1,125 receiving yards and 16 receiving touchdowns. Hardy lacks ideal suddenness and will struggle to separate versus some of the elite cover corners at the next level. He also comes with some character baggage that will cause him to drop a bit during draft weekend. However, Hardy possesses a unique blend of size, athleticism and reliable hands, which is why he could be selected as high as the second round.

[Lurker64]

Is Jordy comparable to Kevin Curtis? (beside being white)

Nelson is like 3 inches taller and 40 pounds heavier than Curtis. Curtis is more of a burner, while Nelson is a guy who will run through traffic and take a hit. He's more of a Donald Driver type of player, he's not fast but he's quick and elusive in space and he's not afraid to get hit or to hit other people.

[Partial]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

ive been saying that all day

I want him as well.

[Merlin]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

TTed Thompson had way too many other options.
He picked a one year wonder boy who looked good- great at the Senior Bowl.

He was slated as at best bet a 3rd Rd. draft pick.

A reach? :D

TT's a bag of gas. Wait. . . now he's drafting for FAVRE. OK!! :D

LOL......

[GoPackGo]

Is Jordy comparable to Kevin Curtis? (beside being white)

Nelson is like 3 inches taller and 40 pounds heavier than Curtis. Curtis is more of a burner, while Nelson is a guy who will run through traffic and take a hit. He's more of a Donald Driver type of player, he's not fast but he's quick and elusive in space and he's not afraid to get hit or to hit other people.

nice.thanks

[Charles Woodson]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

ive been saying that all day

I want him as well.

So thats why TT didnt pick him

[woodbuck27]

BUF takes Hardy

How's that working for YOU Justin Harrell?

TT picks at WR and pass's on Hardy? Uhh??

[Deputy Nutz]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

TTed Thompson had way too many other options.
He picked a one year wonder boy who looked good- great at the Senior Bowl.

He was slated as at best bet a 3rd Rd. draft pick.

A reach? :D

TT's a bag of gas. Wait. . . now he's drafting for FAVRE. OK!! :D

Stop being a hater. Just because you spew your wad on everything NFLdraftcountdown.com has to say doesn't mean it is actually factual.

It was a second round pick to get this, improve the roster as a whole, not fill a specific need, which the Packers don't actually have, but ramble on. TT could have taken anyone and you would be hating.

[Badgerinmaine]

A KC Chiefs fan site had a long pre-draft discussion of Jordy Nelson, largely in the context of whether the Chiefs should take him high:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2008/4/25/460551/competition-for-jordy-nels

[BallHawk]

If Rashard Mendenhall dropped to us at 30 and we picked him Woody would say RB wasn't a position of need.

Can't please everyone.

[Merlin]

Well I am out. Here's to picking up some diamonds in the rough :glug:

[Lurker64]

A KC Chiefs fan site had a long pre-draft discussion of Jordy Nelson, largely in the context of whether the Chiefs should take him high:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2008/4/25/460551/competition-for-jordy-nels

Very interesting discussion, thanks.

[Badgerinmaine]

If Rashard Mendenhall dropped to us at 30 and we picked him Woody would say RB wasn't a position of need.

Can't please everyone.
But it's
All right now
I learned my lesson well
8-)

[Deputy Nutz]

BUF takes Hardy

How's that working for YOU Justin Harrell?

TT picks at WR and pass's on Hardy? Uhh??

Gee, he was projected as a top 20 pick by all the prognosticators out there and he dropped to 38 pick I wonder why?

[mngolf19]

Every time ESPN shows "Bears held under 100 rushing yards in 12 of 16 games in '07". I think that this year it will be 16 out of 16.

[Badgerinmaine]

Well I am out. Here's to picking up some diamonds in the rough :glug:
A Leinie's toast to you, Merlin... :glug:

[motife]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=Jordy%20Nelson&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv

lots of video. probably already posted.

[BF4MVP]

Minn takes Henne probably haha although I'd take Brohm.

[digitaldean]

Any hope TE Fred Davis lasts till our next pick?

[Rastak]

Broncos take WR Royal.....


Strengths: Explodes off the ball, creates space by driving corners back and can get open quickly. Changes directions quickly, runs adequate routes and can separate from man coverage. Can make the first defender miss, shows a second gear when gets a seam and can turn a catch underneath into a long gain. Reads blocks fairly well and runs screens well. Runs hard, is a balanced runner that can bounce of arm tackles and flashes the ability to pick up yards after contact. Shows a second gear when tracking the ball downfield and flashes the ability to make over-the-shoulder catches. Doesn't always make sound decisions with the ball but has adequate arm strength and can throw the ball downfield. Is a dangerous kickoff as well as punt return man and can make an immediate impact on special teams. Gives a solid effort as a stalk blocker. Feisty and physical; won't back down from a challenge.

Weaknesses: Is short, doesn't have great bulk and can get pushed around by bigger corners. Rounds cuts off at times and isn't a precise route-runner at this point. Sustained a slight concussion in 2004, missed 2005 spring practices with compartment syndrome in left leg, slowed by a sprained toe in 2006 and durability is a concern.

Overall: Royal appeared in 38 games in his first three seasons (2004-'06) hauling in 86 passes for 1,282 yards (14.9 average) and eight touchdowns. As a senior, he appeared in 13 games (11 starts) and finished the season with 33 receptions for 496 yards (15.0 average) and four touchdowns. Royal proved his versatility with the Hokies, rushing for a career 226 yards and two scores on 51 carries (9.4 average) and throwing a 53-yard touchdown pass on offense. On special teams, he had 59 kickoff returns for 1,386 yards (23.5 average), 111 punt returns for 1,296 yards (11.7 average) and three TDs, and four tackles during his four-year career. Royal missed one game in 2004 (illness); sat out spring practice in 2005 (left leg compartment syndrome); was knocked out of one game in 2005 by a hamstring injury; and missed a game in 2007 because of a calf injury. Royal's lack of size and injury history should raise some red flags. However, he has the speed, elusiveness and athletic ability to develop into a dangerous No. 3 or No. 4 slot-receiver in the NFL and he has added value in the return game. Royal should come off the board in the third-to-fourth round range of the 2008 draft.

[Deputy Nutz]

Trade Vikings and Philly

[Rastak]

Vikes trade up!



QB .......!

[BallHawk]

There's Tyrell Johnson.

[BF4MVP]

Never mind, Min takes Tyrell Johnson

[Lurker64]

Here is Jordy Nelson and the #20 Overall Pick (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo).

I'll leave this without further comment.

[KYPack]

I have a prediction.

TT will pick two more guys in the 2nd round (baring a trade down)

The picks will be at our deepest positions.

Say LB and RB or something.

Everyone will bitch.

[digitaldean]

Safety for the Queens!

[Rastak]

Vikes take - Safety Johnson.........


Hmmmm, they need depth there.....


Strengths: Adequate height and well built with long arms (32 5/8 inches) and big hands (9 5/8). He has a powerful upper-body, which is seen on film and confirmed with his 27 reps on the bench press (best of DBs at the combine). Fills hard and can deliver a powerful blow. Is a big-hitter but also a solid tackler in space. Plays with a mean streak. At his best when the play is in front of him. He displays very good initial quickness and straight-line speed. Shows burst to close on the ball thrown in front of him. Is intelligent and picks schemes up quickly. A leader and the type that shows potential to make secondary calls. Good overall intangibles and work ethic. Graduated early and worked on his masters degree as a senior. Has proven to b a very durable athlete.

Weaknesses: Shows some stiffness in his hips. Needs to be protected in coverage. Can cover deep-half in a cover-2 look if he makes correct read, but lacks the change-of-direction skills to recover if he takes false steps. Can be a liability if stuck in deep-third zone. Also has man-to-man matchup limitations  not fluid enough to keep with quicker slot WR's and also lacks height to matchup adequately versus taller TE's. Ball skills and awareness in coverage are improving but still only decent.

Overall: Johnson arrived at Arkansas State in 2003 and redshirted the year. In his first three seasons (2004-'06), he appeared and started in 34 games, amassing 269 tackles (two for losses), one forced fumble, 16 pass breakups, six interceptions and a 55-yard fumble return for a touchdown. As a senior in 2007, he played in all 12 games and had 94 tackles (4.5 for losses), two forced fumbles, four pass breakups and six interceptions (one of which he returned for a touchdown). Johnson capped his career by earning Sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year honors and ranking as the conference's all-time leader in tackles. His mother, Patricia, was a sprinter on the Arkansas track team. Johnson is somewhat stiff in his hips, which limits him in certain coverage situations. However, he is a strong, well built safety with excellent straight-line speed and an explosive lower-body. He dominated the lower-level of FBS competition in college, displaying the toughness, tackling skills and leadership to transition to the NFL. In fact, the more we study Johnson on film, the more w like his potential to contribute immediately on special teams and possibly emerge as a starter a year or two down the road. In a weak '08 safety class, Johnson has value early on Day 2.

[mngolf19]

Needed one but I'm not sure why they traded up for him.

[The Leaper]

ONE, good year in college

I disagree.

The kid changed position...played WR for the FIRST TIME in college, and posted 80 catches, 1200 yards and 9 TDs in his first two years at the position.

While that isn't huge, when you consider it was his first action at the position, it is damned impressive.

If you think this kid is Bill Schroeder 2, you will be the one who looks like a numbnut in a couple years.

well you look like a fucking idiot everytime you fucking post

do us a favor like your fucking name says and go leap off something

Wow.

I guess you are working on your third keg.

If I'm such a fucking retard, feel free to point out my inaccuracies rather than just yelling fuck a dozen times.

[Guiness]

It was a second round pick to get this, improve the roster as a whole, not fill a specific need, which the Packers don't actually have, but ramble on. TT could have taken anyone and you would be hating.

Interesting thinking, given that he got out of the first round - the 'not fill a specific need', not the hating part.

TT says BPA, not need - and we all seem to agree with that. Is he more in his element drafting in the second because of that?

[Badgerinmaine]

Here is Jordy Nelson and the #20 Overall Pick (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo).

I'll leave this without further comment.
That was fun.

[digitaldean]

Anyone want to bet on how much whining there will be in FIB-land if Brohm or Henne AREN"T picked?!

[pbmax]

That's like shooting fish in a barrel KY. :)


I have a prediction.

TT will pick two more guys in the 2nd round (baring a trade down)

The picks will be at our deepest positions.

Say LB and RB or something.

Everyone will bitch.

[gbgary]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=Jordy%20Nelson&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv

lots of video. probably already posted.

woah!! he's got an arm too. look out aaron. http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin5.gif

[woodbuck27]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

TTed Thompson had way too many other options.
He picked a one year wonder boy who looked good- great at the Senior Bowl.

He was slated as at best bet a 3rd Rd. draft pick.

A reach? :D

TT's a bag of gas. Wait. . . now he's drafting for FAVRE. OK!! :D

Stop being a hater. Just because you spew your wad on everything NFLdraftcountdown.com has to say doesn't mean it is actually factual.

It was a second round pick to get this, improve the roster as a whole, not fill a specific need, which the Packers don't actually have, but ramble on. TT could have taken anyone and you would be hating.

Bullshit Nutz.

You wouldn't have made that pick and not one other Packer fan would have either. Look back at my earlier post and see that TT had far too many other options.

I don't hate TT. He's just too far out man. Whacky as they come.
He's :D X 10. A bag of gas!!

[Rastak]

Golf, Scouts Inc had Johnson ranked ahead of Phillips and had him the #1 Safety....not sure I agree but I guess they got value.


Vikes dished a 4th and got a 5th.

[arcilite]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mIUu-nLx0lw

good jordy nelson highlight vid

[Badgerinmaine]

Hey, Rastak and Golf--
Here's a nice piece on the Vikings' pick:
http://sea.scout.com/2/744800.html
Article says his dad played for the Milwaukee Bucks.

[GoPackGo]

Nice pick by the Vikes.
Their D might be the #1 D this year

[motife]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6602417062795167674&q=Jordy+Nelson&ei=6LgTSKG1IIaW-QG_4r2hBQ&hl=en

These are some highlights..

{already posted I see}

Ran back two punts for TD's.

a 3rd down specialist.

VERY elusive.

[MateoInMex]

It looks like the Bears are sticking with Grossburger or Orton. LMFAO!

[Rastak]

Bears take a RB - Forte



Strengths: A compact runner who displays good burst through the line of scrimmage and enough strength to push the pile as an inside runner. Very instinctive runner with vision and patience to set up his blocks. Runs with solid pad-level and will lower his shoulder to deliver the blow. Churns out a good amount of yards after contact by staying low and driving his legs. He displays balance and body control as a runner. Not great suddenness but is fluid enough to change directions in order to hit the cutback lane. He is very versatile, especially for a bigger back. He displays soft hands and is very comfortable catching the football. He also shows good instincts and the strength to anchor as a pass-blocker.

Weaknesses: Lacks explosive burst. Is quick to and through the hole but will struggle to consistently bounce runs outside in the NFL. Lacks a second gear and will get tracked down from behind by faster defenders. Not very elusive and won't make many defenders miss in space. Very reliable and experienced as a receiver but will not provide homerun hitting ability as a route runner or after the catch. Durability is somewhat of a concern due to 2006 knee injury.

Overall: In his first three seasons at Tulane (2004-'06), Forte appeared in 31 games (18 starts) and ran for 2,138 yards and 16 touchdowns on 472 carries (4.5 average). He also had 71 receptions for 703 yards (9.9 average) and five touchdowns during that period. As a senior, he played and started in all 12 of the Green Wave's games, ranking second in the nation in rushing. Forte piled up 2,007 yards and 22 touchdowns on 336 carries (6.0 average) and added 29 receptions for 257 yards (8.9 average). He also was a regular on special teams coverage units, even during his colossal senior season. Forte missed the last three games of the 2006 season after tearing the meniscus and posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. Forte proved to NFL teams at the Senior Bowl that his outstanding production (the nation's second-leading rusher in 2007) was not simply a byproduct of the lower-level FBS competition in which he played at Tulane. While he is not a good fit for every team, those seeking a bigger back with versatility in this year's draft, he will be a good value later in Round 3. In our opinion, only Oregon's Jonathan Stewart and Illinois' Rashard Mendenhall rank higher than Forte in terms of running backs weighing in at 215-plus pounds from the 2008 class. Forte would excel in a one-back set and he has the size/versatility to serve as a hybrid RB/FB type in the NFL.

[Scott Campbell]

You wouldn't have made that pick and not one other Packer fan would have either. Look back at my earlier post and see that TT had far too many other options.

I don't hate TT. He's just too far out man. Whacky as they come.
He's :D X 10. A bag of gas!!


I agree. Woody doesn't hate Ted. :shock:



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[digitaldean]

RB for da bear cubs. Really surprised since Brohm and Henne were available.

[imscott72]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

TTed Thompson had way too many other options.
He picked a one year wonder boy who looked good- great at the Senior Bowl.

He was slated as at best bet a 3rd Rd. draft pick.

A reach? :D

TT's a bag of gas. Wait. . . now he's drafting for FAVRE. OK!! :D

Stop being a hater. Just because you spew your wad on everything NFLdraftcountdown.com has to say doesn't mean it is actually factual.

It was a second round pick to get this, improve the roster as a whole, not fill a specific need, which the Packers don't actually have, but ramble on. TT could have taken anyone and you would be hating.

Bullshit Nutz.

You wouldn't have made that pick and not one other Packer fan would have either. Look back at my earlier post and see that TT had far too many other options.

I don't hate TT. He's just too far out man. Whacky as they come.
He's :D X 10. A bag of gas!!

Same old Woodbuck. Hating on TT even after he's turned this team into a Superbowl contender. What more does the guy have to do for you? When is the last time you were an NFL GM? That's what I thought.. :roll:

[mngolf19]

Golf, Scouts Inc had Johnson ranked ahead of Phillips and had him the #1 Safety....not sure I agree but I guess they got value.


Vikes dished a 4th and got a 5th.

Yeah, I guess Kiper likes the pick too. I'm wonder if they should try to trade up for QB soon though although if Det doesn't take here there will be many picks before someone else does.

[KYPack]

That's like shooting fish in a barrel KY. :)


I have a prediction.

TT will pick two more guys in the 2nd round (baring a trade down)

The picks will be at our deepest positions.

Say LB and RB or something.

Everyone will bitch.

I'd miss the barrel.

Actually, I like it when I don't understand WTF TT's doing.

We are a bunch of working stiffs.

WE don't know Pro personnel.

& we don't work for the Cardinals.

let the experts do their job.

[BallHawk]

Forte is a pretty good pick, IMO.

Maybe they trade up and pick a QB.

[Rastak]

Nice pick by the Vikes.
Their D might be the #1 D this year


I agree, they look pretty damn good on D. In the end, they have to get something from their QB and WR posiitons or they are a 8-8 9-7 team again this year.

[BF4MVP]

Kevin Smith and Calais Campbell our two second round picks 8-)

[Scott Campbell]

That's like shooting fish in a barrel KY. :)


I have a prediction.

TT will pick two more guys in the 2nd round (baring a trade down)

The picks will be at our deepest positions.

Say LB and RB or something.

Everyone will bitch.

I'd miss the barrel.

Actually, I like it when I don't understand WTF TT's doing.

We are a bunch of working stiffs.

WE don't know Pro personnel.

& we don't work for the Cardinals.

let the experts do their job.


Yeah, as long as the guys are working out, who cares what the talking heads say.

[Badgerinmaine]

Anyone want to bet on how much whining there will be in FIB-land if Brohm or Henne AREN"T picked?!
We may get to find out. :P

[mngolf19]

Hey, Rastak and Golf--
Here's a nice piece on the Vikings' pick:
http://sea.scout.com/2/744800.html
Article says his dad played for the Milwaukee Bucks.

Thanks Badger. I'm feeling better already. :)

[Rastak]

Hey, Rastak and Golf--
Here's a nice piece on the Vikings' pick:
http://sea.scout.com/2/744800.html
Article says his dad played for the Milwaukee Bucks.

Thanks!

[BF4MVP]

Anyone want to bet on how much whining there will be in FIB-land if Brohm or Henne AREN"T picked?!
We may get to find out. :P
:lol:

[arcilite]

"I cant decide between Kelly or Sweed with this pick" -Matt Millen

[BallHawk]

I'm at the point where I want TT to select unknowns just because I love the reactions of people that continue to think TT doesn't know what he's doing.

[Lurker64]

Woody-

Suppose there was a strong case to be made for Nelson being the best WR in this draft class in addition to his college production and intangibles. Would you object to the pick then?

The more I watch Nelson play, the more I like him. I didn't know much about him before the draft, but I didn't scout WRs much. Still, he's one of ours now so I like him.

[mngolf19]

Rastak, what is the Vikes pick in 5th?

[CaliforniaCheez]

ONE, good year in college

I disagree.

The kid changed position...played WR for the FIRST TIME in college, and posted 80 catches, 1200 yards and 9 TDs in his first two years at the position.

While that isn't huge, when you consider it was his first action at the position, it is damned impressive.

If you think this kid is Bill Schroeder 2, you will be the one who looks like a numbnut in a couple years.

well you look like a fucking idiot everytime you fucking post

do us a favor like your fucking name says and go leap off somethingAnd the outrage begins. :lol: :lol:

hey, i asked for an ignore button


Dang, put the bottle down.

The draft is like Christmas and opening presents. You don't bad mouth the things you get...at least not in front of the relatives.

Don't be like the wierd uncle drunk and raving in the basement that everyone upstairs is avoiding.

[woodbuck27]

Bears take a RB - Forte



Strengths: A compact runner who displays good burst through the line of scrimmage and enough strength to push the pile as an inside runner. Very instinctive runner with vision and patience to set up his blocks. Runs with solid pad-level and will lower his shoulder to deliver the blow. Churns out a good amount of yards after contact by staying low and driving his legs. He displays balance and body control as a runner. Not great suddenness but is fluid enough to change directions in order to hit the cutback lane. He is very versatile, especially for a bigger back. He displays soft hands and is very comfortable catching the football. He also shows good instincts and the strength to anchor as a pass-blocker.

A very logical and solid pick for Da Bears. A strong RB!

TT can still make some recovery in this round. That first pick is certainly questionable. Too many better options for the Packers.



Weaknesses: Lacks explosive burst. Is quick to and through the hole but will struggle to consistently bounce runs outside in the NFL. Lacks a second gear and will get tracked down from behind by faster defenders. Not very elusive and won't make many defenders miss in space. Very reliable and experienced as a receiver but will not provide homerun hitting ability as a route runner or after the catch. Durability is somewhat of a concern due to 2006 knee injury.

Overall: In his first three seasons at Tulane (2004-'06), Forte appeared in 31 games (18 starts) and ran for 2,138 yards and 16 touchdowns on 472 carries (4.5 average). He also had 71 receptions for 703 yards (9.9 average) and five touchdowns during that period. As a senior, he played and started in all 12 of the Green Wave's games, ranking second in the nation in rushing. Forte piled up 2,007 yards and 22 touchdowns on 336 carries (6.0 average) and added 29 receptions for 257 yards (8.9 average). He also was a regular on special teams coverage units, even during his colossal senior season. Forte missed the last three games of the 2006 season after tearing the meniscus and posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. Forte proved to NFL teams at the Senior Bowl that his outstanding production (the nation's second-leading rusher in 2007) was not simply a byproduct of the lower-level FBS competition in which he played at Tulane. While he is not a good fit for every team, those seeking a bigger back with versatility in this year's draft, he will be a good value later in Round 3. In our opinion, only Oregon's Jonathan Stewart and Illinois' Rashard Mendenhall rank higher than Forte in terms of running backs weighing in at 215-plus pounds from the 2008 class. Forte would excel in a one-back set and he has the size/versatility to serve as a hybrid RB/FB type in the NFL.

A solid pick by Da Bears. A very strong RB. A Good choice.

[Rastak]

Lions take LB Dizon:


Strengths: An overachieving, fast-flowing space linebacker. Displays outstanding quickness and lateral mobility. Very good balance and change of direction skills. Tough and doesn't shy away from contact and has a mean streak. He reads plays extremely well, rarely takes false steps and seems to always be around the football. Aggressive and flashes the ability to make plays at the line of scrimmage. Works from whistle to snap and makes some plays in pursuit. Squares up to the ball carrier, wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit for a smaller LB. Gets adequate depth and shows adequate awareness when asked to drop into zone coverage. Takes the shortest path to the quarterback when asked to blitz and flashes the ability to run through blockers in the backfield. Plays with emotion and is a leader in the field.

Weaknesses: Has below average height, bulk, arm length and hand span. Doesn't use hands to protect legs, frequently plays with a narrow base and gets knocked to the ground too much. He is quicker than fast. Does not display good top-end speed, which will limit his range in run support and in man-to-man coverage far more in the NFL. Lacks ideal ball skills and isn't a playmaker in coverage.

Overall: In his first three seasons at Colorado (2004-'06), Dizon appeared in 36 games--starting all but one--and recorded 280 tackles (16 for losses) and eight sacks. As a senior in 2007, he was named the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year after piling up a whopping 160 tackles (including an NCAA-best 120 solo stops), seven tackles for loss, four sacks, a forced fumble and three pass breakups in 12 games. Dizon doesn't look the part of NFL linebacker but somehow he winds up around the ball nearly every play. His feet are outstanding and he covers a lot of real estate in zone. Dizon has an uncanny knack for avoiding blockers without taking himself out of the play. His lack of size and power will prevent him from playing in the middle at the next level, but he has a chance to contribute on the weak-side in a smaller-type scheme -- such as the Colts or Broncos  and he should make an instant impact on special teams as a rookie in the league.

[The Leaper]

I honestly really didn't know anything about Nelson prior to the senior bowl...outside of the fact he caught 122 passes. He stood out at the senior bowl, and I was impressed. When I found out he had only been playing WR for 3 years, I was more impressed.

[Rastak]

Rastak, what is the Vikes pick in 5th?


Not sure........I have to check the pick numbers they have.....they sure went defense with Johnson and Jared Allen as the draft haul. They now have two 5's two 6's and a 7.

[BF4MVP]

If Brohm slipped to the third I'd take him as a backup

[chain_gang]

ohohohohohohohohohohohoh



Sorry had to get that out of my system.

[Rastak]

Rastak, what is the Vikes pick in 5th?


Not sure........I have to check the pick numbers they have.....they sure went defense with Johnson and Jared Allen as the draft haul. They now have two 5's two 6's and a 7.


Vikings have pick 15 and 17 in rd 5.

[woodbuck27]

I honestly really didn't know anything about Nelson prior to the senior bowl...outside of the fact he caught 122 passes. He stood out at the senior bowl, and I was impressed. When I found out he had only been playing WR for 3 years, I was more impressed.

He does have upside.

[Rastak]

Bungles take WR Simpson:


Strengths: A good-sized receiver with above average height, adequate bulk, enormous hands and unusually long arms. He has outstanding leaping ability to climb the ladder for jump balls. He displays one of the best set of hands in this class. Hands are big, strong and soft. Shows very good focus and will make the tough catch in traffic. Plucks on the run effortlessly and does a great job of adjusting to poorly thrown balls. Is tough and competitive. Shows good initial quickness and vision after the catch. Not afraid to go over the middle. Gives a good effort as a blocker and is strong enough to sustain once locked on. Very durable athlete.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal burst. Will occasionally struggle to get a clean release off the line versus press coverage. Takes a bit too long getting in and out of cuts. Needs to become a savvier route runner in order to consistently separate from tight-man coverage in the NFL. Does not possess the top-end speed to stretch the field vertically at the next level. Will be making a big leap from small-school collegiate level to the NFL.

Overall: Simpson established himself as a starter for the Chanticleers as a true freshman, appearing in 34 games (27 starts) over the next three seasons (2004-'06). During that period, he piled up 120 receptions for 2,023 yards (16.8 average) and 33 touchdowns. Simpson's numbers as a senior didn't quite live up to his lofty totals of the previous season, but he managed 41 receptions for 697 yards (17.0 average) and 11 TDs in 11 games (all starts) working with a new starting quarterback. He also set school records in the long jump and high jump competing on the Coastal Carolina outdoor track team during the football season. The small-school prospect had erratic production during his collegiate career. While it was easy to chalk his dip in production as a senior to a new starting quarterback, it helped to see Simpson emerge as one of the elite players during the week of practice at the East-West Shrine game. In addition to dominating practice sessions, Simpson measured the longest arms (35 5/8) and second-biggest hands (10 3/8) of any player participating in the game  regardless of position. The one concern we have with Simpson is that he struggles to consistently separate from press-man coverage. If he becomes savvier in that regard, Simpson could easily emerge as a possession No. 2 or No. 3 receiver in the NFL. Regardless, don't be surprised in April's draft if Simpson comes off the board in the third-to-fourth round range.

[LL2]

Kevin Smith and Calais Campbell our two second round picks 8-)

I will say cheers if this happens! :glug:

[Guiness]

Bullshit Nutz.

You wouldn't have made that pick and not one other Packer fan would have either. Look back at my earlier post and see that TT had far too many other options.

I don't hate TT. He's just too far out man. Whacky as they come.
He's :D X 10. A bag of gas!!

Same old Woodbuck. Hating on TT even after he's turned this team into a Superbowl contender. What more does the guy have to do for you? When is the last time you were an NFL GM? That's what I thought.. :roll:

Who'd a thought Canada and the US were so far apart, eh Woody?

What Woody was trying to say here is that it's funny to watch TT, in the way you watch that unpredictable guy at the party just to see wtf he's going to do next :whaa:

[Rastak]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

[BallHawk]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

They'll come back. A few are probably picking up the broken china and such.

[GrnBay007]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

[Badgerinmaine]

The draft is like Christmas and opening presents. You don't bad mouth the things you get...at least not in front of the relatives.

Don't be like the wierd uncle drunk and raving in the basement that everyone upstairs is avoiding.

Yeah. Isn't that position filled here anyway? :mrgreen:

[gbgary]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

They'll come back. A few are probably picking up the broken china and such.

http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin5.gif

[BallHawk]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

Think I should call ESPN and protest for Joe Toledo to be put on the additions list?

[Rastak]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

They'll come back. A few are probably picking up the broken china and such.


Oh yea, I forgot about the need for that. Thanks Ballhawk.

[GrnBay007]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

They'll come back. A few are probably picking up the broken china and such.

...or making a quick run to the liquor store.

[woodbuck27]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

It's "a Dark and Stormy " time Rastak.

Drinking. :D

[mngolf19]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

I had a different reaction. :wink:

[Rastak]

Eagles take Laws DT:


Strengths: Plays with outstanding motor. Is at his best when on the move. Will never give up on a play and makes a lot of tackles in pursuit for an interior defensive lineman. Plays with very good leverage, discipline and technique. Gets good forward lean in stance, anticipates the snap well and can get into the backfield. Moves well laterally, slants well and runs line stunts well. Works from snap to whistle and takes sound angles to the ball. Very good spin move. Shows great awareness. Reads keys fairly well and can sniff out screens. Stays balanced, uses hands to protect legs and rarely gets knocked to the ground by cut blocks. Wraps up upon contact, shows good body control and is an effective open field tackler. Hands are active, flashes good power at the point of attack and flashes effective rip move. Times jumps well and gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal height and lower body strength. Can get driven back when he doesn't win with first step and struggles to hold ground against double teams. Though never stops working, lacks the power to consistently collapse the pocket and isn't a great bull rusher. Is very quick but lacks great closing burst and there are concerns about ability to get to the quarterback at the NFL level. Sat out the 2003 season with an injury and durability is somewhat of a concern.

Overall: Laws arrived at Notre Dame in 2003 but sat out the entire season because of an injury. In his first three active seasons (2004-'06), he played in 37 games (25 starts) and amassed 112 tackles (14.5 for losses), six sacks and three blocked kicks. He was a terror as a senior last season, starting all 12 games and turning in 112 tackles (eight for losses), four sacks, five pass breakups and three blocked kicks. Laws was college football's only defensive lineman to record 100 or more tackles in 2007. Laws is a three-technique prospect that lacks ideal height but makes up for it with good quickness, technique, upper-body power and a non-stop motor. Laws built on a strong senior season by turning in impressive showings at both the Senior Bowl and the NFL scouting combine. His draft stock is soaring as a result. In a weak class of defensive tackles, Laws could come off the board as high as the second round.

[GrnBay007]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

I had a different reaction. :wink:

:P

[Badgerinmaine]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

I had a different reaction. :wink:
:)

[Rastak]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?

It's "a Dark and Stormy " time Rastak.

Drinking. :D


Me too Woody, and my boys are done for the day.


Cheers!

[Badgerinmaine]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?
They're still ten picks away.

[Lurker64]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

Think I should call ESPN and protest for Joe Toledo to be put on the additions list?

Or Brandon Chillar, he's as key as Frank Walker was last year.

[Scott Campbell]

So he isn't going to beat out Jennings or Driver. But I wonder if he could beat out Jones for the 3rd slot?

[Rastak]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

I had a different reaction. :wink:


How can you not whave that reaction when the guy basically stabbed you with a sharp knife over and over for years!

[woodbuck27]

Bullshit Nutz.

You wouldn't have made that pick and not one other Packer fan would have either. Look back at my earlier post and see that TT had far too many other options.

I don't hate TT. He's just too far out man. Whacky as they come.
He's :D X 10. A bag of gas!!

Same old Woodbuck. Hating on TT even after he's turned this team into a Superbowl contender. What more does the guy have to do for you? When is the last time you were an NFL GM? That's what I thought.. :roll:

Who'd a thought Canada and the US were so far apart, eh Woody?

What Woody was trying to say here is that it's funny to watch TT, in the way you watch that unpredictable guy at the party just to see wtf he's going to do next :whaa:

Yea and the real deal is Canadians don't even use the word "HATE". Guiness.

What's that word mean? :D

PACKERS FOREVER!

[BF4MVP]

Simpson from Coastal Carolina just picked..

Hmm..Coastal Carolina..Sounds like a school that could produce a TT draft pick 8-)

[Lurker64]

Think Charles Godfrey or Patrick Lee will be there for either of our seconds? I like both of them, but for different reasons.

[digitaldean]

So much for Davis....

Finley maybe???

[chain_gang]

So where did everyone go? Pack has two more picks coming up? Where is the speculation?


I'm here Rastak, I hoping for Anthony Collins, OT from Kansas, I think is good value if he's there, Charles Godfrey, or Antwaun Molden. Of course one can only speculate which way TT goes.

[Badgerinmaine]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

I had a different reaction. :wink:


How can you not whave that reaction when the guy basically stabbed you with a sharp knife over and over for years!

I thought it was more like a rusty, painful, tetanus-inducing knife. :twisted:

[Rastak]

Redskins take TE Davis - kinda wanted him for Minny.....


Strengths: An athletic tight end with good quickness and adequate speed for the position. Does a good job of avoiding the jam at the line and shows good release quickness. He has long arms and big hands. He has excellent ball skills and can go up and snatch the ball at its highest point. Very reliable short-to-intermediate receiver. Doesn't let the ball get into his pads often and shows very good hand-eye coordination for his position. He can pluck on the run and gets upfield quickly. Displays a knack for finding open windows on short-to-intermediate routes. Is fast enough to occasionally stretch the seam vertically. Will consistently separate from SLB's one-on-one. He has a quick first step as a run blocker and generally takes good angles. Shows good body control in space as a blocker and does an outstanding job of hitting the moving target on the second-level. Uses leverage to his advantage, displays adequate upper-body strength and works hard to sustain his blocks once locked on. He has been durable and reliable throughout his career. Continues to improve with more experience and is a hard worker with solid overall intangibles.

Weaknesses: Height and bulk are decent but not good. He's tough and technically sound as a blocker, but he will get overwhelmed physically versus bigger DE's and SLB's at the point of attack. While he has above average speed for the position, he has not been a consistent weapon vertically.

Overall: Davis appeared in 35 games (13 starts) in his first three seasons at USC (2004-'06), grabbing 55 receptions for 527 yards (9.6 average) and five touchdowns. Last season he started all 13 games and more than doubled his previous career totals, turning in 62 receptions for 881 yards (14.2 average) and eight touchdowns. Davis finished his career with school records for receptions and receiving yards by a tight end, and as a senior received the Mackey Award, given to the nation's top player at the position. Keller missed one game in 2005 because of an ankle injury.: Davis made significant strides as a first-year starter in 2006 before breaking out as a senior in 2007. He lacks elite size and he is not going to be a typical inline tight end in the NFL. However, Davis possesses the athleticism and toughness to quickly emerge as an impact pass-catcher and eventually to develop into a fulltime starter. Davis is one of the only tight ends in this class that creates mismatches. If used properly and moved around in the formation, Davis should be able to use his explosiveness, physicality and quickness to give linebackers and safeties a very difficult time.

[The Leaper]

So he isn't going to beat out Jennings or Driver. But I wonder if he could beat out Jones for the 3rd slot?

Just as long as he ends Woodson's days of returning punts.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Please pick Riggie Smith TT!!

[red]

Think Charles Godfrey or Patrick Lee will be there for either of our seconds? I like both of them, but for different reasons.

doesn't matter

we won't pick them, because we need them

we'll draft 2 centers because they were the best two on the board

[Rastak]

I hate when that little screen comes up on the Packers:

Key Loss: Favre
Key addition: none

I had a different reaction. :wink:


How can you not whave that reaction when the guy basically stabbed you with a sharp knife over and over for years!

I thought it was more like a rusty, painful, tetanus-inducing knife. :twisted:


It was, and it's great that it has stopped.

[woodbuck27]

Think Charles Godfrey or Patrick Lee will be there for either of our seconds? I like both of them, but for different reasons.

Haha. Forget them. :D
Too logical to pick either of those fella's.

[The Leaper]

I still like Bennett at TE. Wouldn't be shocked to see him get picked by the Packers.

[Scott Campbell]

So he isn't going to beat out Jennings or Driver. But I wonder if he could beat out Jones for the 3rd slot?

Just as long as he ends Woodson's days of returning punts.



I loved how Blackmon looked back there last year. But he's probably too fragile to keep the job for an entire season.

[GrnBay007]

So he isn't going to beat out Jennings or Driver. But I wonder if he could beat out Jones for the 3rd slot?

no way!!! :D

[the_idle_threat]

Given his pre-draft rankings and all, I'm sort of surprised to see Limas Sweed fall this far. Maybe our next pick? :satan:

[BF4MVP]

Eagles pick DeSean Jackson

[Rastak]

Eagles take Jackson WR - Nice pick.....


Strengths: Possesses excellent top-end speed, does a good job of tracking the ball downfield and is a vertical threat. Changes directions smoothly, explodes out of cuts and can run crisp short-to-intermediate routes. Reads defenses well and locates seams working against zone coverage. Drives corners off the line with excellent initial quickness and does a nice job of getting turned around when running come-back routes. Has excellent body control and can make the tough catch in traffic. Times jumps well and is tall enough to compete for jump balls. Isn't afraid to go over the middle and flashes the ability to hold onto the ball after taking a big hit. Makes defenders miss in traffic and is fast enough to go the distance. Runs with balance, flashes an effective spin move and can pick up yards after contact. Is a dangerous return man that reads blocks well and shows a second gear when gets a seam.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal bulk and can get pushed around by bigger corners. Appears to lose focus at times and drops too many passes that he should catch. Footwork is inconsistent and rounds off cuts at times. Effort is inconsistent and appears to pull up when isn't going to get the ball. Doesn't lock onto defenders and struggles to sustain blocks. Doesn't play with a mean streak, doesn't deliver a powerful punch and isn't going to knock defenders back at the point of attack. Missed 2005 Washington State game with an injury, hindered by a thumb injury in 2007, hindered by a thigh injury in 2007 and lack of ideal bulk makes durability that much more of a concern.

Overall: Jackson started ten of the 11 games he played in during his true freshman season in 2005 finishing with 38 catches, 601 receiving yards, seven receiving touchdowns, eight carries and 48 rushing yards. He also returned a punt 49 yards for a touchdown that year. Jackson started all 13 games of the 2006 season finishing with 59 catches, 1,060 receiving yards, nine receiving touchdowns, five carries and 19 rushing yards. He also returned 25 punts for a total of 455 yards and four touchdowns that year. Jackson started 11 of the 12 games he appeared in during the 2007 season finishing with 65 catches, 762 receiving yards, six receiving touchdowns, 11 carries, 132 rushing yards and one rushing touchdown. He also returned 12 punts for a total of 129 yards and one touchdown last year. Jackson would benefit from adding some weight and needs to show the thumb injury played a big role in his numerous drops in 2007. However, there's a reason he should be one of if not the first receiver to come of the board. Jackson can stretch the field vertically, he excels at turning catches underneath into long gains and he is the most dangerous punt return specialist in the 2008 class. It may take Jackson a year or two before emerging as a No. 2 starter on offense, but he should make an immediate impact on special teams.

[Rastak]

Given his pre-draft rankings and all, I'm sort of surprised to see Limas Sweed fall this far. Maybe our next pick? :satan:


I'm surprised too.

[Lurker64]

I would rather have Jordy Nelson than DeSean Jackson.

[Scott Campbell]

6 wideouts taken already in this round.

[Rastak]

I would rather have Jordy Nelson than DeSean Jackson.


Were you down on Jackson or high on Nelson before the draft?

[BallHawk]

6 wideouts taken already in this round.

Kinda surprised why Limas Sweed is still on the board.

Earl Bennett will be a good pick for somebody wanting a WR.

[LL2]

Eagles pick DeSean Jackson

Jackson seems like he'll be a small twig among NFL players. He's got a posse though at his place and dressed like a playa.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I think Riggie Smith would be a great pick here. I wouder if he would play corner though.

[BF4MVP]

Campbell gone :(

[mngolf19]

Only 100 more picks before the Vikes go again. :(

[digitaldean]

Cards took Calais Campbell.

[Carolina_Packer]

DJ...Probably a good value pick, and the guy can return. A guy with quicks at WR. If he can separate and run good routes, he'll stick.

[Rastak]

Only 100 more picks before the Vikes go again. :(


Yup.

:(

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think D.Jackson will be good for Philly.

Finley or Bennett with #56, Godfrey or Lee with #60.

[Rastak]

Cards take Campbell as noted.....


Strengths: Massive DE prospect; unusually tall with very good build, enormous arms (35.6 inches) and bigger-than-average hands (9.4 inches). Displays good initial quickness for his size, can beat blockers to the point of attack and can make plays in the backfield. Plays with decent leverage for a player his height, shows good lower body strength and is capable of holding his own when teams run at him. Has above-average upper body strength, extends arms once in position and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Takes sound angles to the ball, plays with a good motor when fresh and makes plays in pursuit. Wraps up upon contact, shows good body control in space and is an adequate open field tackler that flashes the ability to jar the ball loose. Plays with a mean streak, takes the shortest path to the quarterback and flashes the ability to push tackles back into the quarterbacks' laps. Changes directions well for such a taller DE, runs line stunts well and flashes effective swim and rip move when he shoots inside. Shows adequate awareness and generally does a nice job of sniffing out screens. Doesn't always get hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback but jumps fairly well and has very long arms so can make it difficult for the quarterback to find a passing window.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal top-end speed and is going to have a harder time turning the corner at the NFL level. Doesn't have elite closing speed and is step slow getting to the quarterback at times. Doesn't always get great hand placement and isn't fast enough to recover in time to get to the quarterback when offensive tackles are able to lock onto him. High-center of gravity makes it difficult to get under offensive linemen's pads and struggles to anchor against double teams. Occasionally gets caught too far upfield and is vulnerable to draws. Appears to wear down late in games and needs to work on endurance.

Overall: Miami red-shirted Campbell during his true freshman season in 2004 and he started one of the 12 games he appeared in during the 2005 season. He started 12 of the 13 games he appeared in during the 2006 season finishing with 80 tackles including 20 tackles-for-loss. Campbell also recorded 10.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and three pass breakups that year. He started the 11 games he appeared in during the 2007 season finishing with 50 total tackles including 30 unassisted tackles and 12.5 tackles-for loss. Campbell also recorded six sacks, an interception, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and two pass breakups last year.

[mngolf19]

Only 100 more picks before the Vikes go again. :(


Yup.

:(

So how far can Brohm, Henne drop?

[LL2]

Campbell gone :(

Lets go..... :alc:

[The Leaper]

OK, what 2 positions do we take here in the 2nd?

[Lurker64]

Were you down on Jackson or high on Nelson before the draft?

I've been down on Jackson the entire offseason. As fast as he is, he's tiny, fragile, and has work ethic questions. I wouldn't take him in any round above the sixth. At 169 pounds, most people here could probably beat him up (provided they could catch him).

[Rastak]

Only 100 more picks before the Vikes go again. :(


Yup.

:(

So how far can Brohm, Henne drop?



No farther than this round I'm guessing.

[BallHawk]

OK, what 2 positions do we take here in the 2nd?

I'm going with a DB and an OL.

[Guiness]

Well, it's been a slice all - gota be at work in 6h, so I'm out!

[Deputy Nutz]

Would anyone be cool if GB picked DE Calias Campbell? The guy sounds like a freak at around 6'8". They say he has a motor and another DE with a motor (Kampman) turned out to be pretty good.

TTed Thompson had way too many other options.
He picked a one year wonder boy who looked good- great at the Senior Bowl.

He was slated as at best bet a 3rd Rd. draft pick.

A reach? :D

TT's a bag of gas. Wait. . . now he's drafting for FAVRE. OK!! :D

Stop being a hater. Just because you spew your wad on everything NFLdraftcountdown.com has to say doesn't mean it is actually factual.

It was a second round pick to get this, improve the roster as a whole, not fill a specific need, which the Packers don't actually have, but ramble on. TT could have taken anyone and you would be hating.

Bullshit Nutz.

You wouldn't have made that pick and not one other Packer fan would have either. Look back at my earlier post and see that TT had far too many other options.

I don't hate TT. He's just too far out man. Whacky as they come.
He's :D X 10. A bag of gas!!

You're right, I don't make that pick, but I ain't a GM in the NFL, and regardless how much you go on about your pick'em testimonials I don't think you could hack it as a GM either.

But I certainly am not going to start bitching right away because Thompson took someone I didn't think he would take. Get a grip and grow up.

Check out the highlight of this kid and tell me he isn't the type to add to this team,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mIUu-nLx0lw&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W6B_VmbiR7o&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo&feature=related(look who he just burned. Aqib Talib a number one draft pick.

Do a little research on the kid other than nfldraftcountdown before you start bitching.

[RashanGary]

I had Jordy Nelson in my list of players. I had him at 2nd/3rd, but I was aware of what he's done.

Watching him, he reminds me of Hines Ward. Rodgers is very lucky. Jennings, Jones and now Nelson will all grow and develop with Rodgers. There is very little excuse for him to fail except on his own account.

Anthony Collins and Brian Johnston are looking good right about now.

[The Leaper]

I'm thinking TE and OL, but would TT take 3 offensive players and no defense on day one?

[CaliforniaCheez]

So he isn't going to beat out Jennings or Driver. But I wonder if he could beat out Jones for the 3rd slot?

1) Robinson is gone.

2) Driver is aging.

3) Don't expect much from the rookie. He will will learn. He has a high Wonderlic.

4) Rogers has a chance to look good.

[digitaldean]

TE and RB

Finley or Rice?

[Rastak]

Skins take goofy assed Malcolm Kelly


Strengths: Big, strong and smooth receiver prospect. Excellent combination of size and athleticism. Plays quicker than his measurables would lead you to believe. He is a very natural pass-catcher. Has big, strong hands -- strongest hands of any WR in this year's class (in our opinion). Does an excellent job of securing the ball in traffic. Uses massive frame to shield defenders from the ball. Wins more jump balls than most receivers. Is a serious weapon inside the red zone. Displays unusually smooth hips for a bigger receiver. Gets in and out of breaks with very little wastes motion. Displays very soft hands when plucking on the run. Is smooth and fluid after the catch. Also a very strong runner. Will drag defenders and bounce off initial hits. Maintains balance after initial contact and will gain a lot of tough yards at the end of runs. Will give an adequate effort as a stalk blocker. Not overly physical but he will get in position and wall-off defender. Has the size to smother most DB's at the point of attack.

Weaknesses: Lacks elite top-end speed. A bit of a long-strider that builds speed as he goes. Not overly explosive after the catch. He's smooth, but not very crisp when it comes to running routes. Rounds off too many of his breaks and still has room to improve with his overall footwork. Has had some trouble recently staying healthy. Missed time in each of the last two seasons due to injuries, including a torn meniscus in his knee during 2006-'07 Fiesta Bowl that required off-season surgery.

Overall: Kelly was an instant contributor as a freshman, leading Oklahoma with 33 receptions and 471 yards in 2005. He played 11 games (six starts), scoring two touchdowns. In 2006, he again led the Sooners in catches (62) and receiving yards (993) and had 10 TDs. Paired with Juaquin Iglesias in a more balanced passing attack last season, Kelly wasn't able to match his sophomore numbers. But his 49 receptions, 821 yards and nine scores left him ranked No. 2 in touchdown receptions (21) and receiving yards (2,285) at OU. He played in the Fiesta Bowl in each of the last two seasons, but wasn't able to finish either game and posted no stats because of injuries. Kelly is a big and fluid wide receiver with arguably the strongest hands in the 2008 class. He would have benefited from another season in college to continue to refine his route running skills, but the risk was understandably not worth the reward. Kelly is one of the premier wide receiver prospects in the 2008 class and he should come off the board in the middle portion of the first round.

[RashanGary]

Kevin Smith looks like a good zone runner too.

[BallHawk]

BUT WHAT ABOUT RUVELL MARTIN!?!?!?

[BF4MVP]

Kevin Smith looks like a good zone runner too.
Yep

[gbgary]

So he isn't going to beat out Jennings or Driver. But I wonder if he could beat out Jones for the 3rd slot?

1) Robinson is gone.
2) Driver is aging.

3) Don't expect much from the rookie. He will will learn. He has a high Wonderlic.

4) Rogers has a chance to look good.

guess i missed something. is robinson gone?

[RashanGary]

I don't like him, ballhawk.

Ruvell Martin is to WR's what cement shoes Herron is to RB's.

[digitaldean]

Ruvell may be odd man out. It will be between him and K-Rob for the last roster spot.

[BallHawk]

I don't like him, ballhawk.

Ruvell Martin is to WR's what cement shoes Herron is to RB's.

BLASPHEMY!!

[The Leaper]

BUT WHAT ABOUT RUVELL MARTIN!?!?!?

If he was starting caliber material, he would've shown it by now. Ruvell's high end is as a #3 WR. He's not consistent enough catching the ball, and he hasn't taken enough advantage of his size IMO.

I like Martin, but if you can have Driver, Jennings, Jones and Nelson...I'd take it and laugh all the way to the bank. In a possession passing game, you need guys who can attack the middle of the field and catch the ball.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Lets take Sweed! :D

[CaliforniaCheez]

My brother is twisting his wrist like he is reving a motocycle.


"Brohm; BRohm! BROHM BROHM BROHM!!!"

[Lurker64]

Last year we carried six WRs: Jennings, Jones, Driver, Martin, Robinson, and Bodiford. We will likely have Martin, Robinson, and Bodiford competing for one or two spots. Ruvell may well go from the best #5 WR in the league to the best #6 WR in the league.

[Carolina_Packer]

Watching him, he reminds me of Hines Ward. Rodgers is very lucky. Jennings, Jones and now Nelson will all grow and develop with Rodgers. There is very little excuse for him to fail except on his own account.

Well, that's assuming he's not running for his life. Gotta get the guard situation solidfied and consistent.

[Rastak]

Jags move up........

[MateoInMex]

What's the name of the defensive end ESPN did a piece on a few days ago, that takes medication for depression or something? Was supposed to go in the 1st round last year, but left football and came back this year?

[The Leaper]

I do like King from Penn State as a CB. He's not as physical as I would like, and he is a bit of a project...but he's got time to learn and has some high end physical talent.

[BF4MVP]

Jags take Groves

[Badgerinmaine]

I'm thinking TE and OL, but would TT take 3 offensive players and no defense on day one?
Agreed, agreed and agreed again.

[Rastak]

Jags take Groves......not a bad pick....


Strengths: Exceptional straight-line speed as an up-the-field DE/OLB type. Explodes off the ball and can make plays in the backfield. Is fast enough to turn the corner versus top-shelf OT's and closes well. Drives legs when is able to get offensive linemen on heels and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Does an adequate job of getting hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback and times jumps fairly well. Extends arms once locked on, shows adequate upper body strength and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Takes sound angles to the ball and closes down cutback lanes. Shows above-average range and makes plays in pursuit when he wants to. Shows good body control in space, wraps up on contact and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit.

Weaknesses: Undersized for an NFL defensive end and will need to make the move to OLB in the NFL. His motor runs hot and cold. Hasn't shown great lower body strength and can get driven back. Can be overaggressive and gets caught too far upfield at times. Isn't always balanced in stance and can give away line stunts. Flashes an effective spin move and has the lateral mobility to redirect inside after starting outside but relies on speed too much and hasn't developed a variety of pass rush moves at this point. Struggled with lingering toe injury as a senior. Scouts also have questions regarding his character  most specifically his home life, support system and true passion for the game.

Overall: Groves redshirted his first year at Auburn (2003). In his first three seasons (2004-06), he played in 40 games (15 starts) and combined for 79 tackles (29 for losses), 23 sacks and six forced fumbles. In 2007, he played 11 games (seven starts) and turned in 38 tackles (seven for losses), three sacks and two forced fumbles. He dislocated three toes as a senior, which cost him two games and severely limited in others. Per local domestic dispute laws, Groves was arrested in 2006 after an argument with his wife, but the charges eventually were dropped. He also was placed on probation when, after being involved in a car accident, he was charged with driving on a suspended license and without insurance. Groves is classic boom-or-bust prospect. On one the positive side, he is a proven pass rusher with elite speed off the edge when healthy. On the negative side, Groves is undersized and will struggle when teams pound the ball at him. He needs to move back to outside linebacker in the NFL but shows only adequate fluidity to flip his hips in coverage. Durability and character baggage only add to the potential concerns. With all that in mind, Groves is a late-first or second round talent that could slip a bit on draft weekend.

[BF4MVP]

Let's start the chant

Kevin smith kevin smith kevin smith

[RashanGary]

Well, that's assuming he's not running for his life. Gotta get the guard situation solidfied and consistent.

Favre had more than enough time last year. Is the situation that different now?

[BallHawk]

Let's start the chant

Kevin smith kevin smith kevin smith

Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith.

[texaspackerbacker]

We'll keep 6 WRs--including KRob and Ruvell.

2nd rounders: Corner and TE

[Charles Woodson]

3 picks then uss

[BF4MVP]

HAHAHAHAH funny clips of the two quarterbacks waiting

[Charles Woodson]

Let's start the chant

Kevin smith kevin smith kevin smith

Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith.

Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith

Ive actually met him, real nice guy... my neighbor is his doctor

[BF4MVP]

Let's start the chant

Kevin smith kevin smith kevin smith

Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith.
:D

[Badgerinmaine]

What's the name of the defensive end ESPN did a piece on a few days ago, that takes medication for depression or something? Was supposed to go in the 1st round last year, but left football and came back this year?
I think you mean Tommy Blake from Texas Christian.

[RashanGary]

Anthony Collins, Kevin Smith, Brian Johnston, Martellus Bennett

[Charles Woodson]

Limas sweed to pit

[motife]

I'll bet TT gets another wildly cheering throng at the Lambeau Draft Party ala last year with Justin Harrell.

[chain_gang]

I like Ray Rice from Rutgers. Wouldn't mind him in Green and Gold.

[Badgerinmaine]

Quentin Groves...sounds like a dull Chicago suburb :P

[MateoInMex]

What's the name of the defensive end ESPN did a piece on a few days ago, that takes medication for depression or something? Was supposed to go in the 1st round last year, but left football and came back this year?
I think you mean Tommy Blake from Texas Christian.

Thanks man. Where is he projected to go this draft? Didn't he have a solid showing at the Combine?

[motife]

Limas sweed to texas

Houston's really going to go south this year without Sherman there.

[digitaldean]

Sweed gone.

Brohm, Henne, Manningham still there. A lot of hyped-up names left.

[Rastak]

Sweed finally goes to Pitt


Strengths: Possesses rare size for a wide receiver. He's tall, well built and extremely fluid for his size. Instinctive route runner; finding soft spots in zone comes very naturally to him. He does an excellent job of finding the ball over his shoulder and adjusting to the deep ball. Displays soft hands and very good concentration. Knows how to use his body to shield defenders and uses his upper body subtly to gain separation from defenders when the ball is in the air (see: TD vs. Oklahoma in 2006). Very difficult to defend one-on-one inside the red zone. Displays good leaping ability, long arms and big, strong hands to challenge for the jump ball. Supremely confident in his ability. Shows good body control along the sideline. He has good quickness and change-of-direction skills for his size. He will consistently make the first defender miss after the catch and he also shows the ability to make sharp cuts in the open field after the catch. Very competitive and hard working player.

Weaknesses: Still has room to improve in terms of consistency as a route runner. Not as sudden in-and-out of breaks as you would like to see from an elite receiver. He's fluid with very good top-end speed for his size but he lacks ideal initial burst. Durability  specifically his wrist  is now a significant concern. .

Overall: Sweed was redshirted in 2003. In his next three seasons at Texas (2004-'06), he appeared in 37 games (33 consecutive starts) and hauled in a combined 105 receptions for 1,609 yards (15.3 average) and 17 touchdowns. As a senior, he started in the Longhorns' first six games but was hindered by a wrist injury that had bothered him since spring workouts. He had 19 receptions for 306 yards (16.1 average) and three touchdowns in 2007 before undergoing season-ending surgery. He participated in practice early during Senior Bowl week only to re-aggravate the injury. Sweed suffered the wrist injury during summer camp and attempted to play through the pain. He simply wasn't the same player during those six games in 2007, which is why the majority of our evaluation is based off his junior tape in 2006. When healthy, Sweed has everything NFL teams look for in a No. 1 receiver, including tremendous athleticism for his size and very soft hands. Lingering concerns regarding his wrist injury as a senior could scare some teams in the top-15 away. Still, Sweed is the most talented all-around receiver in the 2008 class when he's at full strength, which is why we anticipate him being selected later in the first round.

[Guiness]

Jags move up........

Again? Is Sherman in their draft room???

What do they have left to trade...

I know, I know. I was just leaving

[Badgerinmaine]

What's the name of the defensive end ESPN did a piece on a few days ago, that takes medication for depression or something? Was supposed to go in the 1st round last year, but left football and came back this year?
I think you mean Tommy Blake from Texas Christian.

Thanks man. Where is he projected to go this draft? Didn't he have a solid showing at the Combine?

I don't know much about him, but I think the articles I saw predicted he would got right at the end or miss being drafted completely.

[Charles Woodson]

Limas sweed to texas

Houston's really going to go south this year without Sherman there.

crap i wasnt thinking

****Limas sweed to pitsburg

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is going to be an fun hour(s). 2 more picks and I hope he uses them both.

I hope he trades down and gets some more wideouts

[Rastak]

Titans take DT Jones:


Strengths: Quick enough to beat blockers to the point of contact and can hold ground against the run when lined up at end and plays with sound technique. Uses hands well, has long arms and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Keeps head up and does a nice job of locating the ball carrier when scraping down the line of scrimmage. Works from the snap to the whistle, takes sound pursuit angles and shows better range than 40-time suggests. Active pass rusher that moves well laterally and can set offensive tackles up to the outside before redirecting inside. Drives legs once in position, shows adequate lower body strength and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Has experience lining up at defensive tackle and can slide inside in certain situations. Blocked a kick last year and can contribute on special teams. Has good bulk now and is tall enough to add weight without sacrificing agility.

Weaknesses: Lacks prototypical top-end speed for an end, frequently a step slow getting to the quarterback and should struggle to turn the corner at the next level. Doesn't have elite explosiveness either and isn't going to make as many plays in the backfield as did at the collegiate level. Fails to consistently get hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback. Plays too high, lacks elite lower body strength and can get driven back at times. Played at a small school, relies on natural ability a little too much at this point and could struggle making the adjustment to the NFL. Missed one game with a leg injury in 2006, missed one game with a leg injury in 2007 and durability is a concern.

Overall: Jones arrived at Eastern Michigan in 2004 and moved from tight end to the defensive line midway through his freshman season. He appeared in all 11 games, finishing the year with four receptions for 12 yards. Over the next two seasons (2005-'06), he made 22 starts and recorded 104 tackles (30.5 for losses), 10.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. As a senior, he appeared in all 12 games (11 starts) and had 70 tackles (19.5 for losses), 3.5 sacks, a forced fumble and a blocked kick. Jones primarily played defensive end for the Eagles, but also took reps at defensive tackle. He missed one game in '06 and one start in 2007 because of separate leg injuries. Jones doesn't have the initial burst or closing speed of an elite edge rusher and he's obviously going to face a much higher level of competition in the NFL so he has to sharpen his technique. That said he has the frame, toughness and motor to develop into an effective power end in a two-gap scheme so he projects as a late third or early fourth round pick.

[red]

jason jones gone, he was one of my sleepers for a round or two from now

[BF4MVP]

I like Ray Rice from Rutgers. Wouldn't mind him in Green and Gold.
I like Rice but I like Smith better

[BallHawk]

Mike Tomlin is so pimpin'.

[texaspackerbacker]

Get Godfrey, then Finley or Bennett.

[The Leaper]

I'm fine with waiting on a RB until tomorrow. We need to address the TE spot...bad.

[MateoInMex]

What's the name of the defensive end ESPN did a piece on a few days ago, that takes medication for depression or something? Was supposed to go in the 1st round last year, but left football and came back this year?
I think you mean Tommy Blake from Texas Christian.

Thanks man. Where is he projected to go this draft? Didn't he have a solid showing at the Combine?

I don't know much about him, but I think the articles I saw predicted he would got right at the end or miss being drafted completely.

That's right. He was projected near the end...of the draft. Thanks.

[motife]

K-St boosters say Jordy Nelson is another Jerry Rice.

[GoPackGo]

lets go QB here

[Rastak]

K-St boosters say Jordy Nelson is another Jerry Rice.


What else would they say!

[BallHawk]

lets go QB here

Please, let's not.

[Charles Woodson]

Ray Rice to Baltimore

[BallHawk]

Ray Rice, waddya know?

[Rastak]

Ravens take RB - Rice......

Strengths: Has thick legs, has a strong lower body and excels at picking up yards after contact. Reads blocks well, shows good patience and explodes through seams as they open. Keeps head up, has good lateral mobility, can cut back when sees defense over pursuing and can bounce runs outside when defense collapses inside. Runs low to the ground, stays balanced and bounces off arm tackles. Reaches top speed quickly and is fast enough to turn the corner. Tough, flashes a powerful stiff arm, lowers shoulders into defenders and is difficult to bring down in the open field. Shows good focus as a receiver and rarely drops passes should catch. Keeps head up, sinks hips and shows good awareness when asked to help out in pass protection. Attacks the thighs of blitzing linebackers and is an effective cut blocker.

Weaknesses: Is vastly undersized and there are concerns about ability to handle the workload of a feature back over the course of a 16-game season. While has been durable carried a heavy workload at Rutgers and there are concerns that the extra mileage will take its toll later in his career. Doesn't have breakaway speed and isn't much of a threat to go the distance when gets a seam. Lacks elite elusiveness and isn't going to make many defenders miss. Rounds cuts off, isn't a consistent route runner at this point and is going to have problems separating from man coverage at the NFL level.

Overall: Rice appeared in all 12 games of his true freshman season in 2005. He started all 13 games of the 2006 season recording 1,794 rushing yards and 20 rushing touchdowns on 335 carries. Rice started all 13 games in 2007 recording 2,012 rushing yards and 24 rushing touchdowns on 380 carries. He also finished last year with 25 catches, 239 receiving yards and one receiving touchdown. Bottom Line: Rice admittedly lacks the size and top-end speed that NFL front offices covet at running back but he has the instincts, balance, vision and hands to develop into an excellent No.2. He projects as a third round pick as a result.

[woodbuck27]

I still like Bennett at TE. Wouldn't be shocked to see him get picked by the Packers.

I liked Davis to. Three TE's gone now I think.

My NFL.Com site is slow. :D

[Charles Woodson]

Ray Rice, waddya know?

Im not sure... What does Ray Rice know?

[Jimx29]

again with the commercial break for ESPN when the pack is up :lol:

[Rastak]

Pack on the clock.....trade down for a bunch of 3's?

[texaspackerbacker]

Rice is gone--good. Godfrey has to be it--or Finely or Bennett or K. smith.

[GrnBay007]

GB up - commercial.

[MateoInMex]

This was the same Bullsh** last year, everytime the Packers are on the board, ESPN goes to a fuggin' commercial!!!

[The Leaper]

I like RIce...but I'd rather have a bigger back.

[BallHawk]

Ray Rice, waddya know?

Im not sure... What does Ray Rice know?

His name involves alliteration.

[BallHawk]

This was the same Bullsh** last year, everytime the Packers are on the board, ESPN goes to a fuggin' commercial!!!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/live

[CaliforniaCheez]

Why not watch the NFL network??



QB??????

[Rastak]

Why not watch the NFL network??



QB??????


Been there all day.

[Charles Woodson]

Ray Rice, waddya know?

Im not sure... What does Ray Rice know?

His name involves alliteration.

Oh well that explains it

[Deputy Nutz]

Brian Brohm???

[chain_gang]

I'm still holding out hope for either Anthony Collins, Godfrey, or Antwaun Molden.

[texaspackerbacker]

No!!!!!

[digitaldean]

Jordy Nelson on ESPN radio right now.

[CaliforniaCheez]

The Packers select Brian Brohm!!

[imscott72]

Brohm!! WHOA

[red]

wow

[gbgary]

PACK SELECT...BROHM!!

[BF4MVP]

NICE!!!!!!

[Charles Woodson]

Brian Brohm???
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO

[Tony Oday]

WE knew this was coming.

[GoPackGo]

yes!

[motife]

WOW!1!

[Deputy Nutz]

Better in the 2nd round than in the 3rd round.

[digitaldean]

BPA???

Now that's a stunner!

[Tony Oday]

Now next pick we need some OL and DB

[Rastak]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I wanted the Vikes to grab him.....


Strengths: A drop-back passer with adequate height and good overall bulk. Makes quick decisions. Is tough and will hang in the pocket to buy his receivers extra time. Displays solid overall mechanics. Keeps the ball high and has a high release point. Release quickness is adequate. Shows excellent touch and timing on throws. Knows how to change up velocities and can hit his receivers in stride in the short, intermediate and deep zones. Knows how to keep safeties honest and is also adept at reading coverage. Does a good job of selling fakes. He will surprise you at times with his ability to make some tough throws on the run. He grew up around the game of football and he's a hard worker on and off the field.

Weaknesses: Is a bit robotic. Locks on to his primary target at times. Some of his biggest flaws are seen when he faces consistent pass rush pressure (see: Rutgers and first-half vs. Miami in 2006). He tends to short-arm his throws when under pressure. Arm strength is adequate but not good. He lacks ideal mobility. He will make some impressive throws on the run but he's not consistent in that department. He lacks the foot quickness to buy many second chances and he won't run away from many NFL defenders. He will take more than his share of hits from within the pocket. Durability was a major issue earlier in his career and his potential to hold up in the NFL remains somewhat of a concern. He had surgery on his non-throwing shoulder in January of 2007. He missed nearly three full games with a thumb injury in 2006 and suffered a season-ending ACL tear in the 10th game of the 2005 season. Finally, while he's competitive and works hard, there are some questions regarding his leadership skills  he's not overly vocal as a leader.

Overall: Brohm's decision to return for his senior season will be second-guessed due to his team's failure to meet expectations in 2007. From where we stand, the experience has allowed Brohm to showcase aspects of his game never seen before. First off, he has shown mental toughness in dealing with the adversity. Secondly, he has eased concerns regarding durability by remaining healthy despite taking a beating throughout his senior season. On the plus side; he is a smart, hard working pocket passer with very good accuracy and the toughness to hang in the pocket. On the minus side; he lacks ideal mobility, arm strength and leadership skills. Also, Brohm comes with some durability baggage. With all that in mind, Brohm projects as a first-round selection but we still think he has too many weaknesses to stamp him with a top-15 grade.

[MateoInMex]

LOL.


No pressure for Aaron Rodgers or anything.

[woodbuck27]

again with the commercial break for ESPN when the pack is up :lol:

We're up now.

Can't wait for this one. :D

[LL2]

What the hell!

[BallHawk]

OK.

I'm neutral.

[Tony Oday]

I cant stand that lisp guy on NFLN :(

[pittstang5]

This has been a weird day. WR, now QB.....what's next...Long Snapper.

[imscott72]

Does this officially end the Favre era in Green Bay? No way you bring him back now right? Wow..Wonder how Aaron feels right now..QB controversy anybody?

[motife]

Brohm will make Rodgers better and vice versa.

[Rastak]

yeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss!


Someone fucked up the formatting....

I agree, not a bad pick.

[red]

LOL, i like it

i think he was the best qb in the draft

[BallHawk]

Actually.

I like this pick.

[gbgary]

everybody on the espn panel love the pick.

[pbmax]

Strike that and reverse it?


Better in the 2nd round than in the 3rd round.

[Jimx29]

It officially ends the cullpepper/fumblina trade talks

[MateoInMex]

More pressure on Aaron Rogers aside, this is a good pick IMO because Rogers has had a bit of an injured past.

[cpk1994]

yeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss!


Someone fucked up the formatting....

I agree, not a bad pick.

Charles Woodson is the guilty party with his NO! post.

[Lurker64]

BPA, but Meh. I like the Jordy Nelson pick better.

[imscott72]

It officially ends the cullpepper/fumblina trade talks

Fuck Culpepper..Never wanted that prick to wear green and gold anyhow..

[cpk1994]

More pressure on Aaron Rogers aside, this is a good pick IMO because Rogers has had a bit of an injured past.You are aware the Brohm has one too?

[imscott72]

Henne looks pissed..

[BallHawk]

I like this part of the scouting report.


Has a terrific football IQ and knows how to read a defense...Very smart and doesn't make many bad decisions...Hard worker with great intangibles who loves the game and wants to improve

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Thats not a bad pick. Very good odds we have our QB of the future now. Do you really want to be like the lions, bears, and vikings who can't get a QB to save there life.

[red]

i think its still a-rods job to lose

but if he screws up or gets hurt again, he might not get his job back

[texaspackerbacker]

I would rather have had Booty or O'Connell in the 4th round. At least Brohm is better than Henne.

[CaliforniaCheez]

The Packers select Brian Brohm!!


That is great value. He won't be ready for a couple of years but he's a first round talent.

[Chubbyhubby]

Now I have to change my avatar!

[motife]

They'll pick Chad Henne with the 29th pick.

Or another white wide receiver.

[gbgary]

emagine us getting a young, freckle-faced, sandy-haired qb. hmmmm

[digitaldean]

Henne to the fins