The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread

[Bretsky]

can't take the delay anymore....going to Twitter too

[green_bowl_packer]

Sean Lee to girls.

Either you're brilliant, or your feed is a good 2 minutes ahead of mine. Either way, glad to have you here.


User name should be Kreskin!!!! (':D') Welcome BTW

[mission]

Sean Lee to girls.

Either you're brilliant, or your feed is a good 2 minutes ahead of mine. Either way, glad to have you here.

im watching on espn2 and the nfln internet stream and they are never in sync.. one or the other seems to get the pick in way before the other. depends on the production i guess

[superfan]

Speivy
Norwood
Pitta
Akwasi
Asamoa
Norwood
Troup
Hardessy
Burnett

Troup is gone.

[OS PA]

For some reason on the NFL.com feed, they went to the studio instead of what they did for the first half of the round. This is really unprofessional, kind of a joke.

[Bretsky]

Would love Norwood, Griffin, or Burnett

[Rastak]

I'm switching to NFL Network; at least they are announcing the specifics of each trade

yea I'm gonna puke if ESPN runs another ad for the World Cup..


It's gonna rock dude!

[swede]

I'm switching to NFL Network; at least they are announcing the specifics of each trade

yea I'm gonna puke if ESPN runs another ad for the World Cup..

Boy dod they know THEIR audience :roll:

[imscott72]

some questions about Griffin's intensity..

Griffen has average height with good bulk for the position. He has natural power and strength at the point of attack when defending the run. He leverages the ball well with a powerful jolt off the line of scrimmage. Griffen feels pad pressure well but is inconsistent to find the ball and natural instincts are a concern. He is a powerful tackler in a confined area but lacks agility and balance in the open field. Griffen is a solid pass rusher that anticipates well off the edge but not an impact player in this phase of his game. Griffen is a good football player that doesn’t always play with great intensity or consistent effort which may hurt his 2010 draft status

[Freak Out]

Who is it?

[RashanGary]

REady for the commercial

[curtis loew]

MIKE NEAL

[RashanGary]

MIKE NEAL

Nice one.

[steve823]

Mike Neal goes to the Packers. ????????????

[Sparkey]

What ?

[imscott72]

Mike Neal??

[Freak Out]

DT.

[superfan]

MIKE NEAL

Only about 30 seconds behind that one. Ugh.

[OS PA]

wow.

[mission]

WHAT THE FUCK

[Rastak]

Pack take Neal DT


nalysis
Pass rush: Once through the line, Neal has the closing speed to get into the quarterback's face. Occasionally drops into coverage on zone blitzes, looks fairly fluid. Gets jumpy on the line, guesses at the snap count too much. Needs more pass rush moves to beat veteran NFL linemen. Should get his hands into passing lanes more often when not able to reach the quarterback.

Run defense: Holds ground adequately against double teams, can split on occasion. Recovers from cut blocks quickly. Inconsistent shedding blocks against the run, but has the strength to do so. Does not hustle and chase as much as you'd like, standing around too much if the play goes away from him. Could improve his backfield awareness to prevent biting on play-action or misdirection.

Explosion: Very good quickness enough off the snap to penetrate at the three-technique, will cause guards to draw holding penalties at the next level. Has some pop on initial contact and push his defender back when man-up. Good lateral movement to sidestep into gap after the snap, although he takes himself out of plays more often than not when doing that.

Strength: One of the strongest players in the draft in terms of weightlifting numbers, but does not always play that way. When on his game, plays with leverage and capable of stacking guards and moving laterally or pushing the pocket. Inconsistent using his hands to disengage, will stand around after initial contact when gassed.

Tackling: Strong upper body allows him to swallow ballcarriers when coming on straight-on or chasing from behind. Has trouble shedding blocks at times and is inconsistent catching backs coming through the hole if he does get off. Does not get many hustle tackles getting downfield or to the outside.

Intangibles: Team captain and their defensive leader. Big weight room performer. Displayed toughness playing through a torn labrum. Loses his composure on the field at times, however, leading to unnecessary penalties.

[Sparkey]

Definately fits no where on the team. GOOD PICK

[imscott72]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...Griffin would have been a better pick..

[steve823]

DAMMIT. We don't need DL as much as we need OLB or secondary help. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Guess we just don't need OLB as much as they think we do. I can't believe we just added another DT to the rotation though.

[OS PA]

I'm glad I'm not running the Packers. Mike Neal?

[Brohm]

Well, either does not look good for Harrel or planning ahead on not keeping Jolly and/or Jenkins.

[steve823]

Scouts Inc. gives Mike Neal a grade of 59.

Pros: Shows above-average upper and lower body strength on film but narrow base makes him less stout than could be. Explodes out of stance and into blockers. Excellent stamina and plays at a consistent level throughout the game.

Cons: Too much of a one-track power rusher who doesn't force offensive linemen to move their feet. Tries to power through the blocker instead of shedding him. Not as effective when lines up at 1-techique as when lines up at 3-technique.

[RashanGary]

Deep DL draft. Might as well take one.

[curtis loew]

Cody to ravens

[Freak Out]

Eject.

[Bretsky]

would have just been nice to have traded down there to pick up another pick

who knows though

[imscott72]

I don't even see Mike Neal on the top 100 list for today that I'm looking at! UGH

[Brando19]

Unreal...TT is hit and miss. He wants us to scratch our heads and think "Hmm..well I've never heard of him, but if he works out, TT is a genius." Take the damn linebacker or defensive back Ted!

[green_bowl_packer]

Does this go with the can't have enough big bodies theory? Where are the sexy Street and Smith picks!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[packrulz]

I don't know, Harrell's a question mark, so is Jolly...

[pbmax]

NFL.com says he can shed blocks. Maybe they are worried about Jolly.

Neal is an average sized interior lineman that will need to play a three technique in a 4-3 defensive scheme. Neal is a tough hard-nosed lineman that gives consistent effort throughout the game. He doesn’t have elite size and is inconsistent to anchor versus double teams but can hold the point when he plays with good pad level. Neal has active hands and does a nice job to shed blockers. He is active in the tackle box showing good lateral quickness and agility but doesn’t have great range to the sideline. He can power rush effectively but needs to expand his moves and counters to contribute consistently at the next level. Neal is a good football player that has some limitations but should contribute in his rookie season and possibly work into a starting role.

[imscott72]

Ravens stocking up serious defense..

[mission]

i am in shock

[steve823]

I waited 2 hours for that...great.

[OS PA]

Mike Neal is a 3-4 DE. We just don't need any depth there. This one is a headscratcher. Why didn't we draft Cody if we wanted depth on our DL? It' s not like Mike Neal is going to be a special teams, 10-12 plays at end per game kind of guy. Bizarre pick, can't wait to see our grade on this one.

[green_bowl_packer]

I waited 2 hours for that...great.


What he said!!!

19 ranked DT on SI.com

[HarveyWallbangers]

Don't know anything about him, but I'm not surprised. I said a few days ago that we might go DE. Jenkins is a UFA next year. Same with Jolly. Plus, he has legal issues.

Just remember the reaction when no name S Nick Collins was picked in round 2 and Greg Jennings was picked ahead of Chad Jackson in round, so don't go jumping off the deep end just yet.

[Sparkey]

Mike Neal was possibly the most dominating defensive lineman during the week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game. He consistently beat offensive linemen off the ball and looked even quicker than he had at Purdue. He registered 2 tackles during the game, and because he can play in the 4-3 or 3-4, may have raised his stock into the late second round.

Neal was again impressive during Senior Bowl week, showing his quickness off the ball during practices. He tallied 1 tackle and 0.5 tackles for loss during the game, and continues to be a late second or early third round prospect.

[pbmax]

I don't know, Harrell's a question mark, so is Jolly...
What was the two deep last year?

LDE: Jolly, Talley

NT: Pickett, Raji

RDE: Jenkins, Wynn, Montgomery


Monty is gone.

[Deputy Nutz]

Keep scratching your heads.

Best player availabe, so stop scratching.

Teddy "Ball Game" strikes again.

[packrulz]

Yes, TT could've traded down and still got Neal.

[RashanGary]

NFL.com says he can shed blocks. Maybe they are worried about Jolly.

Neal is an average sized interior lineman that will need to play a three technique in a 4-3 defensive scheme. Neal is a tough hard-nosed lineman that gives consistent effort throughout the game. He doesn’t have elite size and is inconsistent to anchor versus double teams but can hold the point when he plays with good pad level. Neal has active hands and does a nice job to shed blockers. He is active in the tackle box showing good lateral quickness and agility but doesn’t have great range to the sideline. He can power rush effectively but needs to expand his moves and counters to contribute consistently at the next level. Neal is a good football player that has some limitations but should contribute in his rookie season and possibly work into a starting role.

Well, there ya go :)

[HarveyWallbangers]

He's not a DT in our scheme. He's a DE.

[steve823]

OK. Since Im really mad I'll lokk at the bright side. Does this mean that TT is higher then most think on Brad Jones ?

[mission]

they coulda got this guy in the 4-5th round

[pbmax]

I don't know, Harrell's a question mark, so is Jolly...
What was the two deep last year?

LDE: Jolly, Talley

NT: Pickett, Raji

RDE: Jenkins, Wynn, Montgomery


Monty is gone.
And be careful for suggesting Harrell! I have a list of you who have complained about him before.

[swede]

He seems like a beast with a good motor, but also a bit undisciplined.

I'm not gonna rag on the guy, though; he has yet to commit a stupid penalty for us.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Mike Neal is a 3-4 DE. We just don't need any depth there.

Raji best at NT in the 3-4. Jenkins and Jolly are UFAs next year. We need all kinds of depth there, and we may need a starting DE next year.

[Bretsky]

Time to take the kids out for a meal; wish I'd have just went a half hour ago. Goes into the never have enough big bodies mojo. Perhaps it's inevitable to wish Justine peace out :?:

[Deputy Nutz]

they coulda got this guy in the 4-5th round

Maybe, but Teddy will not deviate from his board.

[pbmax]

Yes, TT could've traded down and still got Neal.
According to public draft experts, who only know what they are told.

Everyone has said the same thing about each BPA player he grabs. We won't know for 2-3 years.

[Rastak]

I don't know, Harrell's a question mark, so is Jolly...
What was the two deep last year?

LDE: Jolly, Talley

NT: Pickett, Raji

RDE: Jenkins, Wynn, Montgomery


Monty is gone.
And be careful for suggesting Harrell! I have a list of you who have complained about him before.


Actually my only troll post of the night......from the bio I posted earlier when the pick happened



Displayed toughness playing through a torn labrum. Loses his composure on the field at times, however, leading to unnecessary penalties.

[mission]

Time to take the kids out for a meal; wish I'd have just went a half hour ago. Goes into the never have enough big bodies mojo. Perhaps it's inevitable to wish Justine peace out :?:

yup.. friday night 'go out to dinner' for us now too :cry:

[curtis loew]

texans pick ben tate

[Rastak]

McCoy still waits......

[HarveyWallbangers]

Actually my only troll post of the night......from the bio I posted earlier when the pick happened


Displayed toughness playing through a torn labrum. Loses his composure on the field at times, however, leading to unnecessary penalties.

My comeback would be the comparison for Toby Gerhart. Brian Leonard? Really?
:D

[wist43]

They'll play him at end... but still, we were, suprisingly, very solid at DE last year... even if he's a decent player, don't see how this pick makes us any better over the next couple of years.

[HarveyWallbangers]

They'll play him at end... but still, we were, suprisingly, very solid at DE last year... even if he's a decent player, don't see how this pick makes us any better over the next couple of years.

We may not have Jenkins and/or Jolly next year. He may need to start in 2011.

[Brando19]

Well...if we don't trade for Lynch...wonder if we'll sign Westbrook soon?

[Brando19]

Browns trade up! McCoy here?!?

[Rastak]

Actually my only troll post of the night......from the bio I posted earlier when the pick happened


Displayed toughness playing through a torn labrum. Loses his composure on the field at times, however, leading to unnecessary penalties.

My comeback would be the comparison for Toby Gerhart. Brian Leonard? Really?
:D


Ouch!

[RashanGary]

It's a really deep draft for DT's. I can't fault BPA. Our DL is alright, but like Harv said, Jolly and Jenkins are both up after this year. Jolly has the suspension. Oh, and Neal might be a really good player too. . .

We all talked about the powder puff Packers for years. Well, now we're investing in the trenches. That's football. It's not flashy, but big guys win games.

[swede]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

[gbgary]

http://i.packers.com/draft/2010/images/10neal450.jpg

mike neal

[curtis loew]

Browns take hardesty, why trade up?

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

He was also team captain and the defensive leader. Sounds like Packer people to me.

[rbaloha1]

They'll play him at end... but still, we were, suprisingly, very solid at DE last year... even if he's a decent player, don't see how this pick makes us any better over the next couple of years.

We may not have Jenkins and/or Jolly next year. He may need to start in 2011.

? with Harrell and Jolly. Pickett and Jenkins are aging. Currently on packers.com. High Character guy.

[imscott72]

Wow no McCoy..Rough, rough draft for him..

[imscott72]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

We'll see how it pans out. Just curious why he was ranked so low on the boards..Has to be a reason for it..

[pbmax]

They'll play him at end... but still, we were, suprisingly, very solid at DE last year... even if he's a decent player, don't see how this pick makes us any better over the next couple of years.
Who starts for Jolly if he gets suspended?

[RashanGary]

They'll play him at end... but still, we were, suprisingly, very solid at DE last year... even if he's a decent player, don't see how this pick makes us any better over the next couple of years.

Jenkins is turning 30, is a better fit in a 4-3 and his contract is up after this year. Jolly has possible drug issues and a possible suspension coming up.

It's going to be exciting to watch our DL play this year. We'll be able to mix up fronts, mix personnel, handle injuries and play well late into games and into the season.

I wanted a CB, S or RB too, but if this guy is a good DL, he'll help the team.

[mission]

any of you big ten guys see this guy last year? never even heard of him... did he ever stand out besides these senior bowl games?

(really leaving soon, she's getting ready :lol:)


what's our next pick?

[The Shadow]

http://i.packers.com/draft/2010/images/10neal450.jpg

mike neal

Looks like Ahmad Rashad with muscles.

[steve823]

So does TT go CB, S, or OLB 3rd round..or none of the above?

I have a feeling TT isn't going to get an OLB until late in the draft unfortunately

[Deputy Nutz]

It's a really deep draft for DT's. I can't fault BPA. Our DL is alright, but like Harv said, Jolly and Jenkins are both up after this year. Jolly has the suspension. Oh, and Neal might be a really good player too. . .

We all talked about the powder puff Packers for years. Well, now we're investing in the trenches. That's football. It's not flashy, but big guys win games.

I compare it to the Jordy Nelson pick a couple of years ago. Believe it or not but we are not as knowledgeable as an NFL front office. They have their reasons for drafting a player and just maybe Ted will give you two maybe even three sentences on why they drafted him.

[pbmax]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.
If there is anything we have learned, from three FBs, to Favre to Ryan to trading Moll, its TTs roster. He made that call.

[mission]

So does TT go CB, S, or OLB 3rd round..or none of the above?

I have a feeling TT isn't going to get an OLB until late in the draft unfortunately

i cant even speculate at this point... :o

[Lurker64]

I think I understand the Neal pick.

The true 5-techniques on the roster are: Cullen Jenkins, Johnny Jolly, Justin Harrell, and Jarius Wynn.

Jenkins and Jolly are free agents after this year, and may want to command big bucks. Harrell might never get on the field and Wynn has potential, but isn't there yet.

The Neal pick gives Thompson the flexibility to play hardball with either Jolly or Jenkins.

[imscott72]

Mike Neal "I do not remember talking to Green Bay". Also, "I'm a hard nosed football player. I know I can get off the ball".

[curtis loew]

Golden Tate to chickens

[Chubbyhubby]

I am hearing his press conference. He is a fan of AJ Hawk and Clay Matthews. Hope he can rush the passer!

[GoPackGo]

Mike Neal - Purdue (HT: 6-3 - WT: 294 - 40: 4.88)
Projection: 4th Round


Positives: Physical specimen, ran a 4.88-40 and put up 31 reps of 225 lbs. at the combine... Tremendous power to push the pocket into the backfield, has a nice bull-rush... Active hands, gains leverage vs. opposing lineman, does a nice job shedding blocks... Good motor, plays hard, has good range and makes plays all over the field... Very explosive first step, gets into linemen quickly and can be very disruptive... Plays with appropriate pad level, holds up well at the point of attack... Was given Purdue's Hammer Award as hardest hitter on the team... Team captain... Best fit is as a 4-3 under tackle... Really improved his stock this season.

Negatives: Struggles to get away from blockers while on the move... Does not have great change-of-direction quickness, has a difficult time getting by blockers... Lacks productive counter moves, can be held up if initial push is stopped... Not much of a playmaker.

[twoseven]

any of you big ten guys see this guy last year? never even heard of him... did he ever stand out besides these senior bowl games?

(really leaving soon, she's getting ready :lol:)


what's our next pick?yeah baby, real football in the big ten unlike that suckass weak shit down south. :) no friggin clue on this guy. down year for me watching those games last fall.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.
If there is anything we have learned, from three FBs, to Favre to Ryan to trading Moll, its TTs roster. He made that call.

He made it without consulting Dom? Come on.

[imscott72]

what's our next pick?

[pbmax]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.
If there is anything we have learned, from three FBs, to Favre to Ryan to trading Moll, its TTs roster. He made that call.

He made it without consulting Dom? Come on.
Consult? Sure. Decide when to pick? No.

One of the Packer coaches talked about interacting with personnel. They are asked to review tape pf players and project them into the scheme and position, to find the fits and misfits. That does not make it a Dom pick.

[twoseven]

Mike Neal - Purdue (HT: 6-3 - WT: 294 - 40: 4.88)
Projection: 4th Round


Positives: Physical specimen, ran a 4.88-40 and put up 31 reps of 225 lbs. at the combine... Tremendous power to push the pocket into the backfield, has a nice bull-rush... Active hands, gains leverage vs. opposing lineman, does a nice job shedding blocks... Good motor, plays hard, has good range and makes plays all over the field... Very explosive first step, gets into linemen quickly and can be very disruptive... Plays with appropriate pad level, holds up well at the point of attack... Was given Purdue's Hammer Award as hardest hitter on the team... Team captain... Best fit is as a 4-3 under tackle... Really improved his stock this season.

Negatives: Struggles to get away from blockers while on the move... Does not have great change-of-direction quickness, has a difficult time getting by blockers... Lacks productive counter moves, can be held up if initial push is stopped... Not much of a playmaker.with all these attributes, i am mostly hoping he is also a mean son of a bitch.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.
If there is anything we have learned, from three FBs, to Favre to Ryan to trading Moll, its TTs roster. He made that call.

He made it without consulting Dom? Come on.
Consult? Sure. Decide when to pick? No.

Not when. Who.

[Brando19]

Our next pick is 86...for those wondering.

[pbmax]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.
If there is anything we have learned, from three FBs, to Favre to Ryan to trading Moll, its TTs roster. He made that call.

He made it without consulting Dom? Come on.
Consult? Sure. Decide when to pick? No.

Not when. Who.
I don't think the coaches get that far.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Our next pick is 86...for those wondering.

How much time are teams allowed to pick in the 3rd round?

[gbgary]

news conf...

http://www.packers.com/draft/2010/av/

[Maxie the Taxi]

I don't understand the hate.

We're gonna need a good run defense...that starts up front. Dom must like him.

That's the key, Swede. It was Dom's pick, not TT's.
If there is anything we have learned, from three FBs, to Favre to Ryan to trading Moll, its TTs roster. He made that call.

He made it without consulting Dom? Come on.
Consult? Sure. Decide when to pick? No.

Not when. Who.

Dom is no ordinary coach. :)
I don't think the coaches get that far.

[imscott72]

Looks like Jeff Suppan about to get killed already..

[Brando19]

Our next pick is 86...for those wondering.

How much time are teams allowed to pick in the 3rd round?

Good question. 3rd round begins soon so we'll find out then.

[pittstang5]

Our next pick is 86...for those wondering.

How much time are teams allowed to pick in the 3rd round?

5 min.

[gbgary]

neal...coach is saying he'll be a defensive end!!

[pittstang5]

coach is saying he'll be a defensive end!!

Where can I hear that?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Our next pick is 86...for those wondering.

How much time are teams allowed to pick in the 3rd round?

5 min.

Good. It'll go a bit faster. Past my bedtime. I'm getting a bit testy. :twisted:

[OS PA]

The thing that I don't understand is why we choose to create exceptional depth at some areas, and have mediocre depth at others. The same argument that was made for drafting a DE could be made for drafting a QB, or a SS, or a WR.

Donald Driver is not getting any younger, James Jones' contract is up after next year.

Nick Collins is one bad tackle away from being down for a few games or the season. Same with A-Rod.

I'm not concerned with our DE depth THIS YEAR. I do understand that we are trying to build a perennial contender, but I don't want to be a perennial playoff team, I want to be a multiple championship team. We are missing a few pieces that are keeping us out of the spotlight. Our CB depth is shaky, and for a position that has more than 2 players on the field at a time, it would seem more important to build depth there.

Mike Neal is not a sexy pick, he isn't an Everson Griffen from USC, he isn't a Brandon Ghee from Wake, he isn't anyone most of us haven't heard of. I'm not saying that he's going to be a bad pick, hell he could be a pro-bowler, an all-pro defensive player of the year, but I wanted to see somebody here that would see the field and make a large impact this year.

However, TT is good with his second rounds, so I'll give the big guy a chance. We certainly are looking more nasty with these big guys in the trenches. Long gone are the days of KGB type ends in GB.

[GoPackGo]

Packers selected Purdue DL Mike Neal with the No. 56 pick in the 2010 draft.

Neal is better suited to a one-gap system, but he'll likely settle in as a five-technique tackle in Dom Capers' scheme. A two-year starter with 5.5 sacks in each of the past two seasons, Neal possesses great first-step quickness and versatility. He'll be handy insurance for Johnny Jolly and Justin Harrell at defensive end.

[gbgary]

coach is saying he'll be a defensive end!!

Where can I hear that?


http://www.packers.com/draft/2010/av/

livestream

[RashanGary]

Summary from scout

Really good athlete
Has very powerful punch
Good with movement
Played 3-tech over. STrong at point. Very seldom loses one on one
The way we play here with hands, rather than penetration, he fits well
Very seldom left the game. Not many guys conditioned like that
Hard playing guy, solid pass rusher, very good athlete, runs well for size
DE, definitely DE. Played 3-tech at Purdue. WE play 3-tech half the time

Keeps talking about how much he played, how he never left the game.

Good inside rusher. Things to work on with technique, but athletically he's got it.

[green_bowl_packer]

neal...coach is saying he'll be a defensive end!!

Sounds like big, bad dudes who can run are hard to find.

[OS PA]

Awesome pick for the Jets. Vlad Ducasse.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I actually like the choice of this guy. He's a pass rusher. Can't have too many of them.

[wpony]

from FF Toolbox : Mike Neal was possibly the most dominating defensive lineman during the week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game. He consistently beat offensive linemen off the ball and looked even quicker than he had at Purdue. He registered 2 tackles during the game, and because he can play in the 4-3 or 3-4, may have raised his stock into the late second round.

Neal was again impressive during Senior Bowl week, showing his quickness off the ball during practices. He tallied 1 tackle and 0.5 tackles for loss during the game, and continues to be a late second or early third round prospect.
This probably had alot to do with it

[mission]

he might end up being decent but i guess we'll never know if anyone else would have grabbed him from us

cant help but think he went a round early.. am i out of line here? trying to get back to a good mood :lol:

[pittstang5]

coach is saying he'll be a defensive end!!

Where can I hear that?


http://www.packers.com/draft/2010/av/

livestream

SWEET! Thanks!

[wist43]

It's hard for me to be too critical of a front seven pick... you win games up front - that said, I'd work to keep both Jenkins and Jolly, deal with Jolly's status as it comes up, and look elsewhere on the defensive side of the ball to improve what I consider to be an overrated defense.

To me, Jolly was our best DL last year... guy has a lot of ability. Regardless of his legal status, he's not going to be banished. Sign him at a discount b/c of his legal troubles, and plug him in at DE for the next 4 years.

You've got Raji to play End too... and I'd prefer him there. Raji is a load b/c of his size, but what makes him really dangerous is his quickness and strength. I'd prefer to see Raji at End on base downs, and inside rushing the passer on passing downs.

[pbmax]

Trgovac on Neal:

Good athlete, good numbers, productive. Has great inside move with quickness, Vac will need to teach him some counter technique.

Played a ton of snaps, and didn't come off the field. Not worried about reports he wore down. Leader.

Played 3 technique, translates to 5 tech in Okie (3-4). Also, Dom plays nearly 50% of snaps with 5 technique tackles because the Okie won't let teams runs on Pack. Cites Okie as reason for run success. I suppose this means that teams swap personnel to get different front out of Pack.

Shawn Herock: Happy that the player did not remember the Packer questioning him. Liked operating under the radar on the guy. Talked to him at Bowl game. Following him for two years.

Likes his initial quickness. Did not worry about report on motor. Guy played a high number of snaps and did not leave game. Likes his pursuit and intensity. Captain.

Thinks he will be a good inside rusher.

[Packgator]

[quote=mission]real football in the big ten unlike that suckass weak shit down south.

Be nice.

[Lurker64]

from FF Toolbox : Mike Neal was possibly the most dominating defensive lineman during the week of practice at the East-West Shrine Game. He consistently beat offensive linemen off the ball and looked even quicker than he had at Purdue. He registered 2 tackles during the game, and because he can play in the 4-3 or 3-4, may have raised his stock into the late second round.

Neal was again impressive during Senior Bowl week, showing his quickness off the ball during practices. He tallied 1 tackle and 0.5 tackles for loss during the game, and continues to be a late second or early third round prospect.
This probably had alot to do with it

YEah, that makes a lot of sense. Thompson loves the guys who star at the college all star games. It's why we have Matthews, for instance.

[RashanGary]

I think it's safe to say Ted cares about the DL :)

[mission]

apparently neal ran a 1.60 10 yard split

faster than even kindle

so there you have it.. that explains everything now

[green_bowl_packer]

Is Brandon Ghee still in the green room?

[RashanGary]

apparently neal ran a 1.60 10 yard split

faster than even kindle

so there you have it.. that explains everything now


I saw that. Really good shuttle too.

[rbaloha1]

apparently neal ran a 1.60 10 yard split

faster than even kindle

so there you have it.. that explains everything now

that is also faster than alualu. good pick. watch-out if Harrell comes back.

[RashanGary]

Scout said he was glad Neal didn't remember talking to the Packers. They liked being under the radar on him. Sounds like this scout really liked him.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'd love to see Ted pick up Myron Rolle in the 3rd.

[Administrator]

Is Brandon Ghee still in the green room?

yes, I think so...

[green_bowl_packer]

Seems Taylor Mays is blaming Pete Carroll for his slide. Does this come off as not coaching him enough or blowing smoke up Mays ass for his USC career.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/23/taylor-mays-unloads-on-pete-carroll/

Taylor Mays unloads on Pete Carroll
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2010 8:30 PM ET
Former USC coach Pete Carroll's new team needed a safety. Taylor Mays is a former USC safety. But when the Seahawks used their second pick in round one on Thursday night, Carroll didn't pick Mays.

A full day and 35 picks later, Mays was drafted by the 49ers. And he's not apparently happy with Carroll, whom Mays thinks wasn't straight with him.

"Um, it was interesting," Mays told Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee after being picked by San Fran. "I definitely thought from the relationship we had, the things that he had told me about what I needed to be aware of with the draft process and things that I needed to do, I felt he told me the complete opposite of the actions that he took, which was definitely -- it was alarming. . . . I understand it's a business. But with it being a business, he needs to be honest. And that's all I was asking for."

Mays then was asked to elaborate on the reason for his beliefs regarding Carroll. "Just in terms of, I didn't have anything to worry about, that my game was OK, that my backpeddaling was fine . . . my tackling was fine. It was all things that I asked -- what I needed to work on, what I needed to show. I was kind of led to think that I was going to be OK. You know, it is what it is and I'm so happy to be with the 49ers on a team that Ronnie Lott played on."

Mays also gets to play Carroll twice per year, and Mays seemed to suggest that his new team is in a better position to succeed than Carroll's.

"I'd rather fall and go to a team where I have a chance of having a better quality career than go earlier and doesn't have more of a chance to win," Mays said.

Maybe there's hope that the NFC West can eventually become interesting again.

[falco]

I'd love to see Ted pick up Myron Rolle in the 3rd.

+1

Although isn't he projected in the 4th/5th?

[The Leaper]

I like the pickup of Neal...

With Neal, Raji, and Jenkins in on passing downs, we will have a very athletic DL capable of getting after the QB in tandem with our LBs.

[RashanGary]

The NFL has finally caught on to these workout warriors. Mays, Cambell. . . .They're getting what they're play earned them.

[pbmax]

Comes off as being very gullible and defensive over his shortcomings. Carroll had no way to know which safeties were better while he was coaching USC. Carroll told him he was OK. Did he guarantee the first round?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'd love to see Ted pick up Myron Rolle in the 3rd.

+1

Although isn't he projected in the 4th/5th?

Who knows anymore? I have seen round 3 before, but nothing on his projected round lately.

[pbmax]

The NFL has finally caught on to these workout warriors. Mays, Cambell. . . .They're getting what they're play earned them.
Mays was more productive than Campbell. He at least was recognized in the conference as a good player. Campbell never got any notice inside the ACC.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I like the pickup of Neal...

With Neal, Raji, and Jenkins in on passing downs, we will have a very athletic DL capable of getting after the QB in tandem with our LBs.

Love the pick. You can never have enough quality big uglies. Not to mention we're still adding pass-rush ability with this pick. From the looks of the scouting report Neal could provide some really nice inside push.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I like the pickup of Neal...

With Neal, Raji, and Jenkins in on passing downs, we will have a very athletic DL capable of getting after the QB in tandem with our LBs.

Love the pick. You can never have enough quality big uglies. Not to mention we're still adding pass-rush ability with this pick. From the looks of the scouting report Neal could provide some really nice inside push.

I agree.

[green_bowl_packer]

Comes off as being very gullible and defensive over his shortcomings. Carroll had no way to know which safeties were better while he was coaching USC. Carroll told him he was OK. Did he guarantee the first round?

He seems to put Carroll in a no-win situation, if he does criticize him. Mays is walking around thinking, I'm the starting safety on the #1 team in the country and my coach thinks I suck - WTF. It's like do these jeans make me look fat - can't win that one.

[OS PA]

56 Packers - Mike Neal, DT, 6'3 294
57. Ravens - Terrence Cody, DT 6'4 354
58. Texans - Ben Tate, RB 5'11 220
59. Browns - Montario Hardesty, RB 6'0 225
60. Hawks - Golden Tate, WR 5'10 199
61. Jets - Vlad Ducasse, OT 6'4 332
62. Pats - Brandon Spikes, MLB 6'3 249
63. Colts - Pat Angerer, LB 6'0 235
64. Saints - Charles Brown, OT 6'5 303

65. Rams - Jerome Murphy, CB 6'0 196
66. Lions - Amari Spievey, CB 5'11 195
67. Bucs - Myron Lewis, CB 6'2 203
68. Chiefs - Jon Asamoah, OG 6'4 305
69. Raiders - Jared Veldheer, OT 6'8 312
70. Ravens - Ed Dickson, TE 6'4 249

[Lurker64]

The NFL has finally caught on to these workout warriors. Mays, Cambell. . . .They're getting what they're play earned them.

Don't forget Everson Griffen. All-Everything coming out of high school, lost his starting job to a walk-on that outworked him, never produced.

[gbgary]

pack on the clock...cool.

[Maxie the Taxi]

The NFL has finally caught on to these workout warriors. Mays, Cambell. . . .They're getting what they're play earned them.

Don't forget Everson Griffen. All-Everything coming out of high school, lost his starting job to a walk-on that outworked him, never produced.

I tried to get excited about Griffen. Just couldn't. From everything I read.

[Administrator]

packers on clock! trade with eagles

[steve823]

Pack Trades up !

[TennesseePackerBacker]

And crazy Ted strikes again! Packers trade up, but for who?

[The Leaper]

huh...wonder who TT wants??

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'd love Brandon Ghee here as well. Damn, we traded our 4th or 5th?

[imscott72]

Hmmm what's going on here??

[green_bowl_packer]

I'd love Brandon Ghee here as well. Damn, we traded our 4th or 5th?

He's been in the green room since yesterday!!!!!

[imscott72]

Morgan Burnett

[TennesseePackerBacker]

woooo Morgan Burnett

[OS PA]

According to NFL.com Grades - Best Players Available

Everson Griffen, DE/OLB, 6'3 273
Corey Wooton, DE, 6'6 270
Bruce Campbell, OT, 6'6 314
Navorro Bowman, OLB 6'4 242
Emmanuel Sanders, WR 5'11 186
Dezmon Briscoe, WR 6'2 207
Dorin Dickerson, TE 6'4 226
Anthony McCoy, TE 6'4 259
Eric Decker, WR 6'3 217
Colt McCoy, QB 6'1 216
Morgan Burnett, SS 6'1 209
Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB 6'4 252
Brandon LaFell, WR 6'2 211
Dennis Pitta, TE 6'4 245
Dominique Franks, CB 5'11 194

[steve823]

Morgan Burnett :D

[Sparkey]

Safety Morgan Burnett

[green_bowl_packer]

YEAH

[Brando19]

Safety Morgan Burnett...good choice.

[gbgary]

morgan burnett...another preditor...cool

[imscott72]

03/21/2010 - TOP RATED NFL DRAFT SCOUT SAFETIES: *Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech, 6-2, 209, 2-3: He had a coming-out party as a sophomore in 2008, when his seven interceptions tied for No. 1 in the nation, and he led his team with 93 tackles while earning All-America buzz. His production wasn't as impressive last season (85 tackles and four interceptions), but he decided it was time to turn pro anyway. He does just about everything well, with excellent awareness and reaction in man and zone coverage, and he can be intimidating as a hitter. His first career touchdown came against Matthew Stafford. Burnett was unable to run at the combine because of a pulled hamstring, but he passed the eyeball test for speed and strength in games. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY

[The Leaper]

EXCELLENT!!!

I like Burnett...I was hoping that he was the guy we were going to grab.

Finally a PLAYMAKER in the defensive backfield at safety

[pbmax]

That will put a smile on some peoples Facebook page. I have been hearing his name alot around here.

[steve823]

Burnett has been extremely productive for the Yellow Jackets over the past two seasons. He is very active in both run support as well as defending the pass but also misses too many opportunities due to lack of effort, angles and proper tackling techniques. Burnett has good size and athleticism for the safety position which makes him effective in combination man and zone coverage’s. He is an instinctive player but takes too many chances which make him vulnerable to big plays at times. Burnett can bend to shed and ward off blockers but again is inconsistent in this area. His ball skills are good and show the ability to make plays in traffic. Burnett is a solid safety prospect that has some inconsistencies in his play that may concern some clubs in this year’s draft.

[Lurker64]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

[imscott72]

EXCELLENT!!!

I like Burnett...I was hoping that he was the guy we were going to grab.

Finally a PLAYMAKER in the defensive backfield at safety

Very good pick..I love it..

[Brohm]

nd the defensive help is in with Neal and Burnett :D

[Maxie the Taxi]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

Like somebody said, maybe TT likes what we got. (But then Austin Lane is still on the board.)

[imscott72]

we gave up the 86th and the 122nd to move up..

[pbmax]

Morgan Burnett (SS)

Height: 6'1"
Weight: 209 lbs.
Arm Length: 31 3/4 in.
Hand Size: 9 in.
College: Georgia Tech

Overview

Burnett has been extremely productive for the Yellow Jackets over the past two seasons. He is very active in both run support as well as defending the pass but also misses too many opportunities due to lack of effort, angles and proper tackling techniques. Burnett has good size and athleticism for the safety position which makes him effective in combination man and zone coverage’s. He is an instinctive player but takes too many chances which make him vulnerable to big plays at times. Burnett can bend to shed and ward off blockers but again is inconsistent in this area. His ball skills are good and show the ability to make plays in traffic. Burnett is a solid safety prospect that has some inconsistencies in his play that may concern some clubs in this year’s draft.

Strengths
Burnett is a prospect with a really nice combination of size, strength and athleticism. Was a very productive player in the secondary for Georgia Tech. Does not have any durability questions. He plays with good intelligence. Exhibits the instincts to come up quickly against the run and jump routes in coverage. Has very good ball skills and is comfortable playing in deep coverage.

Weaknesses
Burnett is plagued by inconsistencies with a few areas of his game. Needs to play with the same high level of aggressiveness more often. Takes inconsistent angles, can over-run plays and is susceptible to double-moves and giving up big plays in coverage. Is also inconsistent run support.

Grade
7.6

[steve823]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

That's what I said before. This must mean TT is high on Brad Jones

[gbgary]

another preditor...

http://www.packers.com/draft/2010/images/10burnett215.jpg


cool!!

[imscott72]

Many are saying he's a great sleeper and the 3rd best safety in the draft..

[pbmax]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

Like somebody said, maybe TT likes what we got. (But then Austin Lane is still on the board.)
In part, the pass rush might come from Neal playing tackle on 3rd downs.

But I agree, we seem a player short there, esp. on pass rush. They must see it in Jones. Unless there is a ton of OLB depth later.

[imscott72]

So we're done until the 5th now?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Many are saying he's a great sleeper and the 3rd best safety in the draft..

He timed faster than Mays, by 1/100th of a second (according to Draft Countdown).

[The Leaper]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

We only need a pass rush specialist...and there are still plenty of smaller college DEs that could transition well to a 3-4 OLB pass rush player.

[Rastak]

So we're done until the 5th now?


Looks that way.

Vikes out until 4th.

[OS PA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQf7WNWk7aQ&feature=fvst

[Maxie the Taxi]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

Like somebody said, maybe TT likes what we got. (But then Austin Lane is still on the board.)
In part, the pass rush might come from Neal playing tackle on 3rd downs.

But I agree, we seem a player short there, esp. on pass rush. They must see it in Jones. Unless there is a ton of OLB depth later.

I think they were really looking for an inside pass rusher to complement our outside speed guys. This pick is real good.

[curtis loew]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQf7WNWk7aQ&feature=fvst

Mute it and its much more enjoyable

[rbaloha1]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

That's what I said before. This must mean TT is high on Brad Jones

Yes. Put on good weight and knows the scheme.

Maybe another Sharper. Bye Bye Bigby.

[Scott Campbell]

we gave up the 86th and the 122nd to move up..


Point Value Chart says:

Pick 71 = 235 points

Pick 86 (160 points) + pick 122 (50 points) = 210 points

[The Leaper]

Brad Jones was capable as a 7th rounder...and Thompson has a great eye for LB talent since that was his playing position. I'm not concerned at all about his ability to find a good OLB prospect in the later rounds.

[steve823]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQf7WNWk7aQ&feature=fvst

Haha I just finished watching it and was about to post it up

[packrulz]

So we're done until the 5th now?
Yep. http://www.packers.com/draft/2010/

[steve823]

Brad Jones was capable as a 7th rounder...and Thompson has a great eye for LB talent since that was his playing position. I'm not concerned at all about his ability to find a good OLB prospect in the later rounds.

Also, Jones supposedly bulked up in the off season and he should be stronger this year.

[Rastak]

Huge surprise, Bears take Major Wright.

[gbgary]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQf7WNWk7aQ&feature=fvst

seems to have good hands...which some of our guys lack at times.

[Rastak]

Looks like current draft talk has ceased, later guys...perhaps tomorrow or if something dramatic happens today.

[gbgary]

tt news conf. now

[GoPackGo]

Morgan Burnett - Georgia Tech (HT: 6-1⅜ - WT: 209)
Projection: 4th Round


Positives: Has elite ballhawking skills, among the best in this draft, is able to clean jump routes to make a play (finished his career with 14 interceptions)... Good technique, footwork and hip movement, looks natural out of his breaks... Is always in position to make a play... Very instinctive, quickly recognizes run vs. pass plays... Is solid in man-to-man coverage, has played cornerback at times... Strong safety candidate, 235 career tackles, easily locates the ball, but could play either safety position... Very good combination of size and speed... Generally a reliable tackler, sheds blocks well... Does not make many mistakes, doesn't give up big plays... Should post good workout numbers, stock could rise in the post-season... Has a lot of upside, seems to get better with more experience and still has a lot of potential that can be developed.

Negatives: Though he reaches top speed quickly, doesn't have a second gear heading toward the sideline... Will take poor angles in pursuit and needs to rely on athleticism to recover... Can be out-muscled in the open field... Can play too high and will tackle with his shoulder, sometimes taking the worst of a hit... Inconsistent, will have a very impressive game, then a game where you hardly notice him... Did not match his sophomore production (seven picks) as a junior.

[OS PA]

Happy with this draft. I don't like the Neal pick, but I know nothing. Here's hoping we can get a CB/KR in the 5th, 6th, or 7th.

I'm gonna check out now that the Pack are done for the night. Enjoy the rest of your Friday night rats.

[wist43]

Burnett seams like a good pick there.

[rbaloha1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQf7WNWk7aQ&feature=fvst

seems to have good hands...which some of our guys lack at times.

Wow! Start this dude now!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Tennessee just got Damian Williams. Great pick at this stage.

[Lurker64]

Love this pick. I wonder what we're going to do at OLB though.

That's what I said before. This must mean TT is high on Brad Jones

Yes. Put on good weight and knows the scheme.

Maybe another Sharper. Bye Bye Bigby.

Bigby should still be on the team. He's better than anybody else we have as a backup, but Burnett and Collins should be our starting safeties.

The backups we've had at S in recent memory? Simply execrable.

[packrulz]

Apr 23 7:22 ET
While DE isn't a big need for the Packers, Purdue's Mike Neal gives them options. Both starting ends, Johnny Jolly and Cullen Jenkins, will be free agents after the 2010 season. And former 1st-round pick Justin Harrell hasn't stayed healthy.
Apr 23 7:24 ET
Packers DL coach Mike Trgovac on Mike Neal: "Mike is a good athlete. The thing that impressed me was his ability to just punch guys, he's very strong at the point of attack. He benched 31 times, you can see it on tape. He has good feet....He was a good, hard-playing player. Hardly ever leaves a game."
Apr 23 7:33 ET
Brute strength was the calling card for second-round pick Mike Neal at Purdue: "In college my strength definitely made up for, at times, my technique." Neal said he benched 510 pounds in college. "I am a hard-nosed football player," he said.

[gbgary]

i like our draft so far. all of them fill needs.

[Maxie the Taxi]

i like our draft so far. all of them fill needs.

Filled needs with top quality guys,too.

[pbmax]

Did we trade with M1 for this pick?

TT on Burnett

Why trade up? Jokes with Wilde he must stop. thought board was working against them. Wanted to move up rather than wait.

Athletic, good ball skills. Junior, TT watched tape himself since he hadn't prepared for him like Senior. Seems bright. Can play deep, cover and come up and support run.

Neal: Impressive in All-Stars games. Herock and Schneider scouted him at his games. Fits the system. Athletic, pass rusher good fit in 3-4.

Does he trade up now that team is deeper? Has some effect. This is what he means by the board getting soft on him in round 3. Players left on board that could make the team in the position group were getting fewer and farther between.

Burnett can play early, will be thrown right in. Has good ball skills, maybe not unique but better than average. Good anticipation, plays well in space. Does well in centerfielder role. Knows angles and plays ball well. Made the catches when Ted saw him with the opportunity.

Made more than the normal number of calls looking to go up. Slot chart (picks worthy of Round 3 pick by grade) was getting short.

Neal: Will get a chance to play, if by substitution only. Pass rush certainly will get a chance.

Does not mean they give up on Bigby at all. Worried about injuries here, just like on the O line.

Doesn't like the nightime drafting. Asks the reporters if they like it. I think Ted has been drinking.

[steve823]

I thought Bowman would've been picked by now

[packrulz]

TT drafted Jolly in what, the sixth round? So, you would think Mike Neal must be even better than Jolly.

[gbgary]

tt said don't rule out a forth round pick but he doesn't anticipate any other picks in the third. lol

[Lurker64]

Man, the Broncos are going to have the highest character team in the league. Far from the most talented or most successful, but they'll win "nice guy" awards.

[gbgary]

morgan news conf...

[steve823]

Major Wright .. FS the Bears selected :

He only has average coverage skills, shouldn’t be relied upon to often in man, and may struggle to contain receivers over the middle or athletic tight ends. Doesn’t have the agility in space to consistently break down and wrap up. Is inconsistent with his block protection.

:)

[Sparkey]

NationalFootballPost has Morgan Burnett with the same grade as Earl Thomas and better than Taylor Mays.

[packrulz]

TT on draft:

You are always looking to add a draft class going forward. You have to continue to add to the group.

Atari has done that from time to time. Struggled with ankle injury. He's played good ball for us. Not an indictment against Atari. You have to have more quality players.

Ok with OLB and CB: All those things are in consideration. We just don't like where we are at. You can't pick them all.

[gbgary]

morgan-never missed a game in college. wow.

[falco]

TT drafted Jolly in what, the sixth round? So, you would think Mike Neal must be even better than Jolly.

i wish it worked that way :lol:

[Bretsky]

They'll play him at end... but still, we were, suprisingly, very solid at DE last year... even if he's a decent player, don't see how this pick makes us any better over the next couple of years.
Who starts for Jolly if he gets suspended?


How about our 07 first round draft pick ??

[gbgary]

holmgren picks mccoy

[Bossman641]

I think this says a lot about how the staff feels about Jones and the other LB's. You would hope that Jones makes a big leap this year. They were also high on Obiozor's pass rush ability. I'm guessing TT grabs one more pass-rushing LB late to throw into the fold.

[The Leaper]

McCoy is a steal for the Browns in the mid-3rd...and is going to a perfect situation for his skill set and with Holmgren watching over his training.

Browns +1

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think this says a lot about how the staff feels about Jones and the other LB's. You would hope that Jones makes a big leap this year. They were also high on Obiozor's pass rush ability. I'm guessing TT grabs one more pass-rushing LB late to throw into the fold.

Also, because we didn't go after a CB, I think TT/Dom have confidence in our younger CB (Lee and Underwood). I think Underwood is going to breakout next year myself.

[steve823]

I think this says a lot about how the staff feels about Jones and the other LB's. You would hope that Jones makes a big leap this year. They were also high on Obiozor's pass rush ability. I'm guessing TT grabs one more pass-rushing LB late to throw into the fold.

Also, because we didn't go after a CB, I think TT/Dom have confidence in our younger CB (Lee and Underwood). I think Underwood is going to breakout next year myself.

Lee and Underwood are complete mysteries. I'm hoping at least one of them steps up so Bush doesn't step foot on the field on defense

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think this says a lot about how the staff feels about Jones and the other LB's. You would hope that Jones makes a big leap this year. They were also high on Obiozor's pass rush ability. I'm guessing TT grabs one more pass-rushing LB late to throw into the fold.

Also, because we didn't go after a CB, I think TT/Dom have confidence in our younger CB (Lee and Underwood). I think Underwood is going to breakout next year myself.

Lee and Underwood are complete mysteries. I'm hoping at least one of them steps up so Bush doesn't step foot on the field on defense

I like Underwood. The guy is FAST. Why we still have Bush is a mystery. Maybe this year he's gone.

[Bretsky]

LOVE the pick here; hopefully Bigby becomes the backup he should be and MB excels

[rbaloha1]

Agreed. Many talented young dbs. Maybe Bush is gone.

[steve823]

WOW :shock:

49ers having a great draft ! They just got Bowman to add to all the physical, tough guys they drafted.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:sf

Check it out

[green_bowl_packer]

WOW :shock:

49ers having a great draft ! They just got Bowman to add to all the physical, tough guys they drafted.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:sf

Check it out

Just thinking the same thing.

[RashanGary]

LOVE the pick here; hopefully Bigby becomes the backup he should be and MB excels

The Packer scout just now said Bigby brought a sense of stablity back there for the defense, especially Nick. Said they didn't want to have happen what happened when Bigby was gone again.

[Bretsky]

John Schneider and Seattle IMO are doing pretty dam well also

[retailguy]

so, are we going to invent a new defense with 5 big guys up front?

[arcilite]

I don't post much and I don't think anyone knows who I am.

But I jokes before our 2nd round pick that it might be a 3-4 DE...I was right hahah.


I think Colt Mccoy will be the best QB out of this draft.


I like out pick at safety. I trust TT.

I also think Brad Jones will be decent this year, so I am not worried on that department.

But also...don't count out a trade after the draft.


I'm going to the Packers at Skins game this year, holla at me if you are too. I need more tailgate buddies.

And im drunk so dont hate on my typos

[retailguy]

John Schneider and Seattle IMO are doing pretty dam well also

How about the Patriots doing their best Ted impression? I think they've got about 20 draft picks by now.

[green_bowl_packer]

John Schneider and Seattle IMO are doing pretty dam well also

Absolutely. NE has 8 picks left (made 5 picks in the first 3 rds). Bal did OK for what they do on D with Kindle, Cody.

[Bretsky]

so, are we going to invent a new defense with 5 big guys up front?


Montgomery is gone
Harrell sucks

If he turns out to be good this is a solid pick

[falco]

so, are we going to invent a new defense with 5 big guys up front?

says the guy who mocks TT when he doesn't add enough depth :roll:

[Bretsky]

John Schneider and Seattle IMO are doing pretty dam well also

Absolutely. NE has 8 picks left (made 5 picks in the first 3 rds). Bal did OK for what they do on D with Kindle, Cody.



and now NE picked up Carolin's second round pick for a late 3rd

I kind of wish TT would have traded down in round two to pick up antoher 4th or 5th........

I'm still hoping for a solid pass rusher, a special teams guru for returns........and a ZOLTAN for a Punter :!: And O'Brien Schofield.

Not sure if we have anough picks for all of those now

[green_bowl_packer]

Brandon Ghee is out of the green room!!!!!

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think NE is screwing up. This draft was good at the top end, but not so good the higher the rounds. TT was smart taking what he wanted up front.

[steve823]

Hmm Round 3 is over and Everson Griffen and Ricky Sapp are still there.

Bruce Campbell is still there too :lol:

[Bretsky]

I think NE is screwing up. This draft was good at the top end, but not so good the higher the rounds. TT was smart taking what he wanted up front.


Devin McCourty
Rob Gronkowski
Brandon Spikes
Jermaine Cunningham
Taylor Price


that's a pretty dam good start

[imscott72]

John Schneider and Seattle IMO are doing pretty dam well also

Absolutely. NE has 8 picks left (made 5 picks in the first 3 rds).

Plus two 1st rounders, and two 2nd rounders in 2011 now..

[Freak Out]

So what does drafting the DE say.....he seems to have some promise but is Jolly in more trouble than we think and is Jenkins gonzo?

[retailguy]

so, are we going to invent a new defense with 5 big guys up front?

says the guy who mocks TT when he doesn't add enough depth :roll:

huh? when did I complain about that? Truthfully, I was hoping for another OL, but I was just puzzled is all. guy had a 4th round grade on him from several people, so Ted must have seen something he liked.

reminds me of the Collins pick with everyone saying "who?", as was I...

I do want to know what we're going to do with him, and more importantly I wonder if that means anything related to Justin Harrell... That guys is probably done. It also probably means we won't keep Jenkins...

[swede]

Morgan Burnett (SS)

Height: 6'1"
Weight: 209 lbs.
Arm Length: 31 3/4 in.
Hand Size: 9 in.
College: Georgia Tech

Overview

Burnett has been extremely productive for the Yellow Jackets over the past two seasons. He is very active in both run support as well as defending the pass but also misses too many opportunities due to lack of effort, angles and proper tackling techniques. Burnett has good size and athleticism for the safety position which makes him effective in combination man and zone coverage’s. He is an instinctive player but takes too many chances which make him vulnerable to big plays at times. Burnett can bend to shed and ward off blockers but again is inconsistent in this area. His ball skills are good and show the ability to make plays in traffic. Burnett is a solid safety prospect that has some inconsistencies in his play that may concern some clubs in this year’s draft.

Strengths
Burnett is a prospect with a really nice combination of size, strength and athleticism. Was a very productive player in the secondary for Georgia Tech. Does not have any durability questions. He plays with good intelligence. Exhibits the instincts to come up quickly against the run and jump routes in coverage. Has very good ball skills and is comfortable playing in deep coverage.

Weaknesses
Burnett is plagued by inconsistencies with a few areas of his game. Needs to play with the same high level of aggressiveness more often. Takes inconsistent angles, can over-run plays and is susceptible to double-moves and giving up big plays in coverage. Is also inconsistent run support.

Grade
7.6

If he talks a big game it'll be Darren Sharper II :lol:

[retailguy]

I kind of wish TT would have traded down in round two to pick up antoher 4th or 5th........



Ted said the "board was falling the wrong way". What he meant by that, is he was concerned that the picks remaining would not have made the team, so he moved up to take someone he thought would make the team.

Even I can't fault the guy for that one...

[imscott72]

So what does drafting the DE say.....he seems to have some promise but is Jolly in more trouble than we think and is Jenkins gonzo?

Both are FA's next year, so it gives TT some options if we can't work something out with them..

[Tony Oday]

I like more Dlinemen...still can get decent value later in the draft in O line...defense...defense....defense!!!!

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think NE is screwing up. This draft was good at the top end, but not so good the higher the rounds. TT was smart taking what he wanted up front.


Devin McCourty
Rob Gronkowski
Brandon Spikes
Jermaine Cunningham
Taylor Price


that's a pretty dam good start

Wait and see what they get at the end. They've got a 4th rnd, 5th rnd, 6th rnd and five 7th rnds.

[Chubbyhubby]

Back to Mike Neal, What a reach! I have read the projected round on this kid was 5th! and we took him in the second round. This kid better be special. To make me scratch my head even more this guy was injured though out college. I really don't know what he was thinking...

[retailguy]

I think NE is screwing up. This draft was good at the top end, but not so good the higher the rounds. TT was smart taking what he wanted up front.


Devin McCourty
Rob Gronkowski
Brandon Spikes
Jermaine Cunningham
Taylor Price


that's a pretty dam good start

Wait and see what they get at the end. They've got a 4th rnd, 5th rnd, 6th rnd and five 7th rnds.

two of those 7th rounders will probably become 2011 6th rounders...

I think they've had an excellent draft, and have set themselves up very well for next year. that's the part of this that I admire. Picked good players too. really like the gronkowski pick.

[retailguy]

Back to Mike Neal, What a reach! I have read the projected round on this kid was 5th! and we took him in the second round. This kid better be special. To make me scratch my head even more this guy was injured though out college. I really don't know what he was thinking...

careful! don't bitch about the guy...

[swede]

I don't post much and I don't think anyone knows who I am.

But I jokes before our 2nd round pick that it might be a 3-4 DE...I was right hahah.


I think Colt Mccoy will be the best QB out of this draft.


I like out pick at safety. I trust TT.

I also think Brad Jones will be decent this year, so I am not worried on that department.

But also...don't count out a trade after the draft.


I'm going to the Packers at Skins game this year, holla at me if you are too. I need more tailgate buddies.

And im drunk so dont hate on my typos

Pshht!

Arclite...we know you man!

Sounds as if you'll have 3-4 Rats to hang with at the skins game. Zig for sure.

[Sparkey]

Here are a few players that pique my interest:

Eric Norwood, OLB
Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi, CB
Brandon Lang, OLD/DE
Joe McKnight, RB

McKnight could be used on kickoffs and as a 3rd down back. Nice change of pace guy.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Back to Mike Neal, What a reach! I have read the projected round on this kid was 5th! and we took him in the second round. This kid better be special. To make me scratch my head even more this guy was injured though out college. I really don't know what he was thinking...

Don't get too discouraged. You read all kind of projections. Hopefully, TT has some inside info we don't get. I think half these guys that do mock drafts and stuff don't watch film and just read profiles from other sites. Got to take them with a grain of salt.

Was a reach though. Kind of like the Jordy Nelson pick.

[falco]

huh? when did I complain about that?

we're good there

[swede]

Here are a few players that pique my interest:

Eric Norwood, OLB
Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi, CB
Brandon Lang, OLD/DE
Joe McKnight, RB

McKnight could be used on kickoffs and as a 3rd down back. Nice change of pace guy.


That's a nice little list. A lot of teams are thinking hard about that AOA kid.

[retailguy]

huh? when did I complain about that?

we're good there

we're good where? I fail to understand.

[Lurker64]

So what does drafting the DE say.....he seems to have some promise but is Jolly in more trouble than we think and is Jenkins gonzo?

Both are FA's next year, so it gives TT some options if we can't work something out with them..

I think they may also be worried about whether or not Jolly will continue to produce after he gets paid. I've heard rumblings to that effect.