The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread

[pack4to84]

Punter from Michigan is gone

[Scott Campbell]

Johnson, Robert, DB, Utah Un-Graded


He was terrific at Utah, but I couldn't tell you how he'd project at the next level.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Davis, Hall, DE, Louisianna-Layfayette Grade: 5.4

Belicek takes Zoltan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sparkey]

Looks like the Zoltan went to NE ?

[Lurker64]

Punter from Michigan is gone

Should have traded up for a punter!

Wait... wait a minute...

[Bretsky]

Yeah, corner appears to be picked over. What about Donovan Warren? Anybody know anything about him. Of the highest ranked guys left, he's one of the few that is a bigger corner.


he's the guy from Michigan right ? Many are projecting that he might need to be moved to Safety

[imscott72]

Pats take the first punter?

[ND72]

damn it new england!!

[Gunakor]

Pats take Zoltan Mesko with pick #150. 4 picks before GB.

Sorry, B.

[Brando19]

Well that sucks...my Punter is gone...now we're going to have to score every time we touch the ball.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Belicek's strategy is throw it against the wall and see what sticks.

[mission]

[quote=red][quote=mission]i thought we had a 5th round pick ??

neal seems to have a pretty long injury history just like harrell did. he's also a pick for a position we don't really need, like JH was. I hope i'm wrong though

Here's Neal's injury history:
Redshirted with a knee injury.
Missed 5 games with turf toe
Played through a torn labrum.

It's not anything exceptional. Big guys are going to get banged up. The fact that the guy would play like 80 plays a game at Purdue means that he's probably not that fragile.

there's probably a good reason most guys don't play 80 snaps a game... in GB he can stop being the "hero" and 'get in where he fits in'. couple that with his dedication in the weight room and he should be fine... not overextended.

red i posted a lot of "im in shock" and "wtf" when the neal pick was announced... admittedly ive never even heard of the guy. my wife came over and hugged me with my face in my hands... not joking lol .... i get it. but who knows about jenkins (hasnt played a lot of full seasons u know) and jolly's future. i think with the lack of DL help in the middle of the draft maybe this wasn't so bad. especially if they knew they were going to be able to get at morgan burnett.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Scott, Chris, OT, Tennessee Grade: 5.5

[Bretsky]

DAMMIT BILL

I'm your only defender on Packerrats and then you bend my over and draft the Punter I've been pimping for weeks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is IRONIC though

Years ago I pimped Gastrosky, the K for the Pats after seeing him in a college competition

Now I pimp Zoltan for weeks


And you grabbed BOTH :!:

[packers11]

Just official : Jets release Alan Faneca

[imscott72]

Faneca officially released..He'll be a hot commodity..

[red]

[quote=red][quote=mission]i thought we had a 5th round pick ??

neal seems to have a pretty long injury history just like harrell did. he's also a pick for a position we don't really need, like JH was. I hope i'm wrong though

Here's Neal's injury history:
Redshirted with a knee injury.
Missed 5 games with turf toe
Played through a torn labrum.

It's not anything exceptional. Big guys are going to get banged up. The fact that the guy would play like 80 plays a game at Purdue means that he's probably not that fragile.

yeah, i guess that's not too bad. makes me feel a lot better

like i said i had no god damn internet last night so all i had were my dumb fucking draft mags, they all said he had injury concerns

[swede]

When you have a bajillion picks you can afford to spend your fifth on a punter. We wouldn't have taken the punter for another round.

[Sparkey]

Just official : Jets release Alan Faneca

he is old and on the down side of career.

[OS PA]

He'll sit out on the market for a few weeks and then sign with a team during training camp. Probably gets the Brett Favre treatment on some team.

[Gunakor]

DAMMIT BILL

I'm your only defender on Packerrats and then you bend my over and draft the Punter I've been pimping for weeks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is IRONIC though

Years ago I pimped Gastrosky, the K for the Pats after seeing him in a college competition

Now I pimp Zoltan for weeks


And you grabbed BOTH :!:

A new curse?

[pittstang5]

Just heard Alan Faneca was released or will be released.

I say sign him and get rid of Colledge ASAP.

[imscott72]

Jets just had to eat 5.25 M to release Faneca..

[pbmax]

PFT says Myron Rolle is dropping because teams question his passion for the game. If true due to his not playing for one year, then someone is going to get a gem. Its idiotic to avoid a player because he has some alternatives in his life.

[pbmax]

Just heard Alan Faneca was released or will be released.

I say sign him and get rid of Colledge ASAP.
He is toast.

[OS PA]

Pack are up in three. Any guesses what we do here? I'm guessing OL.

[Maxie the Taxi]

PFT says Myron Rolle is dropping because teams question his passion for the game. If true due to his not playing for one year, then someone is going to get a gem. Its idiotic to avoid a player because he has some alternatives in his life.

He opted out of the draft a year or so ago to study in England. Smart dude. he's a philosopher or something.

[packers11]

rotoworld.com


According to NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora, the Raiders are close to a trade with the Redskins for Jason Campbell.

The Bills remain asleep at the wheel, apparently content to use a run-heavy offense with C.J. Spiller, Fred Jackson, and Marshawn Lynch. Campbell would be a major upgrade on Bruce Gradkowski and JaMarcus Russell in Oakland, increasing the fantasy value of the entire offense.

[ND72]

Pack are up in three. Any guesses what we do here? I'm guessing OL.

I'm gonna say QB or OLB

[Bretsky]

PFT says Myron Rolle is dropping because teams question his passion for the game. If true due to his not playing for one year, then someone is going to get a gem. Its idiotic to avoid a player because he has some alternatives in his life.



If you have watched specials on him he's a brilliant dude and many feel like he'll only play football for a short period of time

I don't think he ran well either

I'd welcome him as our pick though

[pittstang5]

Just heard Alan Faneca was released or will be released.

I say sign him and get rid of Colledge ASAP.
He is toast.

He's better than colledge and Lang could learn from him.

[pbmax]

21 (152) Bengals Hudson, Otis G -- -- Eastern Illinois

So unknown, nfl.com doesn't know what he weighs.

EDIT: They found his school.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Otis is gone!!!!!!

Hudson, Otis, G, Eastern Illinois Un-Graded

[pbmax]

Just heard Alan Faneca was released or will be released.

I say sign him and get rid of Colledge ASAP.
He is toast.

He's better than colledge and Lang could learn from him.
I don't think so. Steelers let him walk thinking he was overrated and now he gets cut because he is old. Time to let it go. Definition of stop gap.

[Bretsky]

ARTHUR MOATS

[RashanGary]

I'm thinking Arthur Moats

[Bretsky]

ANTHONY DIXON

CARLTON MITCHELL

[imscott72]

Bedard thinks Matt Dodge will be our new punter..

[mission]

carlton mitchell maybe?

[OS PA]

I want the little sparkplug, but I'm guessing we won't know much about the kid we pick.

[Bretsky]

I'm thinking MOATS, but Mitchell or Dixon would be dang good here

[ND72]

Just saw on Twitter that Jason Campbell expects to be traded in the next 10 minutes.

[green_bowl_packer]

someone said the 5th is TT's WR round - I'll go Carlton Sheets WR USF 6' 3" 215 4.4/40 - his mom is the cut man for Antonio Tarver and Roy Jones - he'd fit with the Packers current boxing jones.

[Sparkey]

Austen Lane to Jax

[OS PA]

Austen Lane goes to the Jags right before us!

[swede]

Commercial

Must be GB on the clock

[imscott72]

on the clock!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Austen Lane gone!!!!!!!!!!

[green_bowl_packer]

Just saw on Twitter that Jason Campbell expects to be traded in the next 10 minutes.

Sounds like the Raiders, WTF are the Bills going to do for a QB? Testaverde?

[mission]

PFT says Myron Rolle is dropping because teams question his passion for the game. If true due to his not playing for one year, then someone is going to get a gem. Its idiotic to avoid a player because he has some alternatives in his life.

He opted out of the draft a year or so ago to study in England. Smart dude. he's a philosopher or something.

:lol: he's going to be a neurosurgeon i think

[imscott72]

someone said the 5th is TT's WR round - I'll go Carlton Sheets.

Didn't that guy sell real estate or something?? :lol:

[Fosco33]

Austen Lane (from Iona WI)

Murray State DE
Blessed with a Julius Peppers-like build at 6-6, 267 pounds and a highly productive track record as a four-year starter, Lane was a big play waiting to happen in D-IAA. He totaled a whopping 41.5 tackles for loss and 25 sacks in his final two years, winning Ohio Valley Conference Defensive POY as a senior. Lane was also remarkably consistent, registering at least one TFL in every game last season. The former high school wideout returned a fumble for a touchdown in the North's 31-13 victory over the South at the Senior Bowl, proving he can play with the big boys. Lane needs to get stronger, but offers potential to be the ideal 4-3 left defensive end at the next level.
Draft Projection: Mid-second to mid-third round

[Bretsky]

DAMMIT; Double Commericals

[Sparkey]

Arthur Moates to the pack!

[Maxie the Taxi]

TT taking his time. Jags pitched him a curve.

[green_bowl_packer]

someone said the 5th is TT's WR round - I'll go Carlton Sheets.

Didn't that guy sell real estate or something?? :lol:

Touche = Carlton Mitchell

[mission]

we traded?

[Bretsky]

TRADE DOWN ??

[mission]

lol these idiots are not talking about what i want them to

[pittstang5]

WTF? Who is it?

[imscott72]

Well?????

[mission]

andrew quarless to the pack

TE .. penn st

honorable mention all big ten

[Sparkey]

Andrew Quarless ?

[imscott72]

Andrew Quarless TE Penn State..Another Big 10 guy..

[OS PA]

LMAO - TE - Penn St.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Quarless, Andrew

[Fosco33]

Dang - if I knew we were going with a TE - missing out on Graham from UW is a f-me move.

[swede]

Psssht

WTF?

Can he punt?

[pittstang5]

BPA pick? I guess. don't like it.

[Bretsky]

dude was suspended twice for off field incidents in college

[Maxie the Taxi]

Well at least he has 34" arms.

I'm oughtta here.

[Scott Campbell]

I'd love Donald Lee's opinion on this.

[Sparkey]

Waste pick there. Guy wont even make the team. he is not better than Havner

[imscott72]

An above-average athlete for size. Can open up and run. Needs polishing with routes though. A bit tight and has too much wasted motion getting in and out of cuts. Can separate and run away from LB's and DS's vertically. Does not appear to diagnose coverage well and struggles to find open areas working against zone looks. Also needs to be more savvy wading through traffic and can get bumped off of routes on occasion.

Separation Skills 2 Hands are above-average. Usually catches ball away from frame. Inconsistent though when having to open hips to make catch when ball is thrown behind him. Secures ball in traffic. Flashes ability to track ball over shoulder.

Ball Skills 2 Has the second gear to stretch the middle of the field. Catches the ball easily in stride on the run and can get up field. However, lacks elite elusiveness to make multiple defenders miss in the open field.

Competitiveness/Toughness 4 Improved toughness from a year ago. Still questionable overall passion for the game. Will appear lethargic and disinterested for periods of time throughout contests. Motor runs hot and cold as a blocker and is not a finisher. Concerns about his willingness to go over the middle and do the dirty work the position calls for.

Blocking 4 Improvement in this area from junior to senior season but still inconsistent. Appears stronger on tape than junior film. Does a good job of getting into position and moving feet as an inline blocker. Not dominating though and struggled against upper-echelon of competition (Cameron Heyward OSU DE and Brandon Graham Michigan DE). Moves well in space to cover up defenders downfield.

[green_bowl_packer]

OH TED. . .

[OS PA]

Could someone please fill in the blanks for me?


What the fuck Ted? We don't need a Tightend! But Arthur Moats was still available!!! Why the hell didn't we address the ______________ position? I guess that _____________ could end up being a player. Oh we really do need depth there. Oh wow, this kid did _________ and _________! This kid could be great!

[imscott72]

dude was suspended twice for off field incidents in college

2007: Cited for underage drinking two weeks before the start of the season. Penn State suspends him for the first two games of the season. 2008: Gets cited for two counts of DUI, a traffic violation and underage drinking for an incident that occurred at 3 a.m. on March 2. Penn State suspends him from the team until the conclusion of spring practice. Sentenced to 15 month rehabilitation program. Police find a small amount of marijuana in apartment he shares with A.J. Wallace, Abe Koroma and Maurice Evans. He is suspended for the season opener (Coastal Carolina.) Though he does not play, he is reinstated the following week (Oregon State) when information indicates he is not connected to the marijuana. 2009: Head coach Joe Paterno says Quarless has been a leader this year.

[channtheman]

Can he play linebacker?

[swede]

Baltimore had a good draft

[rbaloha1]

Bye Bye Donald lee. Loved the USC te McCoy.

[mission]

sounds like he has talent and size but some dui's, weed, character concerns... great now him and finley can fuck around. =/


03/23/2010 - PRO DAY RESULTS: Penn State's pro day speaks for itself. A number of highly touted prospects worked out, and most of them posted outstanding numbers. The March 17 event was held indoors on FieldTurf in front of 25 team representatives. Both of the 40-yard dashes were run in the same direction, and some eye-opening times were recorded. Here is a look at the top players who participated: TE Andrew Quarless (6-4 1/2, 252) ran 4.57 and 4.57 in the 40, had a 9-11 broad jump, a 4.57 short shuttle and a 7.29 three-cone drill. He did not lift. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com

[Lurker64]

He's a promising receiver, good athlete, unfinished as a blocker. Has some character concerns.

Simply a "this player is good value at this point in the draft" pick, nothing to do with need. Classic Ted.

[Gunakor]

He can run a 4.5 40. Other than that nothing really stands out.

I don't like this pick either. I'd have taken Moats or that WR from South Florida.

[ND72]

andrew quarless
6'4" 250 4.79
Strength -
Has good size and arm length. Is consistent outlet/possession receiver aligned tight or as an H-back or in the slot. Is a position/seal blocker who works hard to sustain run and pass blocks. Shows some ability to mirror pass rushers' moves in tight spaces. Displays the toughness to go into a crowd, absorb hits and hold on to the ball.

weaknesses -
Is a "slow-twitch" athlete who has little burst, acceleration or quicknes in his routes. Lacks speed to be a downfield threat. Displays only average initial quickness to get off the line. Lacks elusiveness after the catch. Displays only functional strength to drive block in the running game. Is sometimes immature and doesn't always work hard.

bottom line -
Quarless is a developmental prospect. He has the size and athleticism to become a quality backup and special teams player as a rookie before starting down the road.

[Tarlam!]

I think the new draft format has fucked Thompson's mind. I've always been one to defend his curious behaviour, but after this draft, I'm really wobbling.

[mission]

Waste pick there. Guy wont even make the team. he is not better than Havner

Donald Lee :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: imo

[channtheman]

So we draft a position that is not needed and the guy we pick has a bunch of issues with the law. Great.

[packers11]

Can we get one OLB? PLEASSEEEEE???

[Gunakor]

Waste pick there. Guy wont even make the team. he is not better than Havner

Donald Lee :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: imo

You're probably right, but I don't think it's a good decision. I don't like Lee but there's much better things we could have done there.

[rbaloha1]

Combined with Finley -- watch out. Jackson and Chewy relived.

[imscott72]

So we draft a position that is not needed and the guy we pick has a bunch of issues with the law. Great.

I don't get it either. Why would they want to ship Lee out? Poor blocking? This guy is a project and I can't see him being ready this year for anything significant..

[channtheman]

Can we get one OLB? PLEASSEEEEE???

Nope. Next pick is a QB.

[Patler]

If this is a BPA situation, I sure hope he was head and shoulder above the best CB, LB, RB, or even QB available.

Seems like a sort of waste, with Finley, Lee and Havner on board.

[green_bowl_packer]

I think the new draft format has fucked Thompson's mind. I've always been one to defend his curious behaviour, but after this draft, I'm really wobbling.

You could be right. After Thursday and Friday night press conferences TT was talking to the press about how much he disliked the new format and how there was too much sitting around waiting, etc. He was like we have to plan to clean out some file cabinets or something to pass the time between rounds/picks . . .

[Fritz]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

[imscott72]

What is next pick?

[channtheman]

So we draft a position that is not needed and the guy we pick has a bunch of issues with the law. Great.

I don't get it either. Why would they want to ship Lee out? Poor blocking? This guy is a project and I can't see him being ready this year for anything significant..

I don't really like Lee as he seems to drop a lot of passes, but I also don't really like this pick. Are there not any OLB's or CB's that are worth a 5th rounder left?

[imscott72]

If this is a BPA situation, I sure hope he was head and shoulder above the best CB, LB, RB, or even QB available.

Seems like a sort of waste, with Finley, Lee and Havner on board.

Yea I have to question whether Quarless will even make the team.

[swede]

What is next pick?

169 I think

[swede]

What is next pick?

169 I think

Maybe another Tight End is available

[green_bowl_packer]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?


These have all been light a fire under fill-in-the-blank/competition picks.

[rbaloha1]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

BPA. My guess is the players at this position are not better than Jones. Jones played well and should only get better.

[OS PA]

Rumormonger - Packers traded ??? for Shelton Quarles, OLB, Tampa Bay

Lol, Mort on ESPN just said "Did you see Shelton Quarles to the Packers?" I think he meant Quarless, because Shelton Quarles is 39 and has been retired in 2006.

[swede]

Tennant is gone

[mission]

i honestly think they feel this dude can be the donald lee we need donald lee to be... pretty good run blocker who tries hard and has a long frame. broke the psu all time record for catches by a tight end. you know joe-pa aint throwing the ball 40 times a game or anything.

after those drops in the endzone this year, i dunno, i just dont care for d.lee anymore. on the decline, let's go :arrow:

[imscott72]

What is next pick?

169 I think

Maybe another Tight End is available

Punter?

[swede]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

BPA. My guess is the players at this position are not better than Jones. Jones played well and should only get better.

Same for Jermichael tho

[Gunakor]

If this is a BPA situation, I sure hope he was head and shoulder above the best CB, LB, RB, or even QB available.

Seems like a sort of waste, with Finley, Lee and Havner on board.

Yea I have to question whether Quarless will even make the team.

I'd keep Quarless over Donald Lee, and Havner is a question mark after that motorcycle accident. He will make this team. I just don't think neglecting some better options at #154 was justified.

[HarveyWallbangers]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

Funny how many people complain about Donald Lee during the season, but then say we don't need a TE. Apparently, people are overrating Havner because of his 4 TDs (on 7 receptions).

Who knows if the guy will be good, but he sounds mildly intriguing (he timed faster than Finley). What if Ted hits a homer on this pick and we have two TEs that can stretch the field?

[channtheman]

What is next pick?

169 I think

Maybe another Tight End is available

What about fullback. You can never have enough fullbacks.

[swede]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

Funny how many people complain about Donald Lee during the season, but then say we don't need a TE. Apparently, people are overrating Havner because of his 4 TDs (on 7 receptions).

Who knows if the guy will be good, but he sounds mildly intriguing (he timed faster than Finley). What if Ted hits a homer on this pick and we have two TEs that can stretch the field?

Then we were the first to say we liked the kid.

[imscott72]

Quarless "The night of my DUI was the last time I had a drink".."Coach Paterno was ready to let me go. I stopped drinking. It was a sacrifice I had to make". Also says the weed wasn't his as he lived in a house with 3 other guys..

[rbaloha1]

Rumormonger - Packers traded ??? for Shelton Quarles, OLB, Tampa Bay

Nice.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rumormonger - Packers traded ??? for Shelton Quarles, OLB, Tampa Bay

This is funny. Quarles retired a few years ago.

[channtheman]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

Funny how many people complain about Donald Lee during the season, but then say we don't need a TE. Apparently, people are overrating Havner because of his 4 TDs (on 7 receptions).

Who knows if the guy will be good, but he sounds mildly intriguing (he timed faster than Finley). What if Ted hits a homer on this pick and we have two TEs that can stretch the field?

Then we bow down to Ted again and proclaim his greatness! I'd love to be wrong about this pick!

[RashanGary]

This reminds me of the Matt Flynn pick a few years ago. It's a, "had no choice" BPA pick.

I'm definitely wanting a CB, OLB and P but I'd rather have a guy they think can be a really good player than a guy they don't believe in. There is UDFA and fringe free agents that don't cost a thing if you want guys you don't believe in. The draft is an opportunity to take players that other teams also want.

[swede]

NFLN reports that Jason Campbell sent to the Raiders.

They didn't say where to send the condolence messages.

[imscott72]

Rumormonger - Packers traded ??? for Shelton Quarles, OLB, Tampa Bay

This is funny. Quarles retired a few years ago.

:lol: :lol:

[mission]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqhQW82fszw

couple highlights of Quarless in this local (college) news production ..

guy looks like j mike no joke... they are talking about how he can get split out.

[OS PA]

Rumormonger - Packers traded ??? for Shelton Quarles, OLB, Tampa Bay

This is funny. Quarles retired a few years ago.

Hehe, yea, I know. Mort messed that one up.

[packers11]

NFLN reports that Jason Campbell sent to the Raiders.

They didn't say where to send the condolence messages.

Raiders acquired Jason Campbell from the Redskins in exchange for a fourth-round pick in 2012.

[Tarlam!]

What if Ted hits a homer on this pick and we have two TEs that can stretch the field?

That's true of the 153 picks prior, if you insert the appropriate GM's name. Honestly, I think Thompson's going through menopause.

[Patler]

Funny how many people complain about Donald Lee during the season, but then say we don't need a TE. Apparently, people are overrating Havner because of his 4 TDs (on 7 receptions).

Who knows if the guy will be good, but he sounds mildly intriguing (he timed faster than Finley). What if Ted hits a homer on this pick and we have two TEs that can stretch the field?

Isn't that exactly what we are saying when we say we hope he has significantly more potential than the BPAs at other positions?

[pittstang5]

Quarless "The night of my DUI was the last time I had a drink".."Coach Paterno was ready to let me go. I stopped drinking. It was a sacrifice I had to make". Also says the weed wasn't his as he lived in a house with 3 other guys..

I've never been to Happy Valley, but from what I hear...all you do is drink.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hehe, yea, I know. Mort messed that one up.

So, what did he mean? Is there a rumor we are trading for a Tampa LB?

[mission]

on espn they're saying quarless has 1st round talent but 5th round questions... looks like a WR out there.

j mike all over again, TT loves that 'player' .. worth a 5th imo

[imscott72]

NFLN reports that Jason Campbell sent to the Raiders.

They didn't say where to send the condolence messages.

Redskins got Raiders 4th rounder in 2012 in return..Of course at this point there is no 2012 draft.. :lol:

[swede]

Vikings pick Chris DeGeare

[OS PA]

Lol, Mort on ESPN just said "Did you see Shelton Quarles to the Packers?" I think he meant Quarless, because Shelton Quarles is 39 and has been retired in 2006.

Just passing along the information from the asses mouth.

[channtheman]

I think I don't mind this pick so much. If he can push D Lee out and become even a little like Finley I will like it very much. I don't expect much from him for a few years though.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Isn't that exactly what we are saying when we say we hope he has significantly more potential than the BPAs at other positions?

Most are saying it eloquently. Most are saying "WTF" or "we don't need a TE".

[imscott72]

Quarless "The night of my DUI was the last time I had a drink".."Coach Paterno was ready to let me go. I stopped drinking. It was a sacrifice I had to make". Also says the weed wasn't his as he lived in a house with 3 other guys..

I've never been to Happy Valley, but from what I hear...all you do is drink.

I thought that was Madison.. :lol:

[Lurker64]

This is just the point in the draft that teams start taking chances on guys with talent but questions, regardless of position.

Expect something other than a WR or a CB at 169 too.

[Bretsky]

He can run a 4.5 40. Other than that nothing really stands out.

I don't like this pick either. I'd have taken Moats or that WR from South Florida.


ditto

[imscott72]

Hehe, yea, I know. Mort messed that one up.

So, what did he mean? Is there a rumor we are trading for a Tampa LB?

I haven't heard anything about this from any of my sources..

[Carolina_Packer]

I don't know if he can fill the role of OLB, but George Selve of South Florida would make an interesting pick with the next pick we make. He definitely has rush skills, but I don't know if he can play in space like an OLB does.

[Tony Oday]

Maybe because Finley is an injury concern, Lee tailed off and Hayvner has the legal issues...you HAVE to have a good TE in our offense

[swede]

Commercial

Green Bay must be up

[Bretsky]

What is next pick?


probably a QB

[rbaloha1]

Kiper and McShay love Quarles -- a first round talent with questionable work ethic. Sound familiar?

Another late round gem. The Packers have plenty of playmakers. Lets hope the line gels.

[OS PA]

Hehe, yea, I know. Mort messed that one up.

So, what did he mean? Is there a rumor we are trading for a Tampa LB?

I haven't heard anything about this from any of my sources..

Don't let this rumor spread. Mort saw that the Pack picked Quarless and said "Did you see the Pack just got Shelton Quarles".

I thought it was funny, so I posted it, but I guess I posted in the wrong fashion :wink:

[swede]

Nope

false alarm

[mission]

Kiper and McShay love Quarles -- a first round talent with questionable work ethic. Sound familiar?

Another late round gem. The Packers have plenty of playmakers. Lets hope the line gels.

those little highlights they showed he looks like more of a playmaker than lee for sure .. same build as finley (little shorter)

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqhQW82fszw

couple highlights of Quarless in this local (college) news production ..

guy looks like j mike no joke... they are talking about how he can get split out.

The commentator said "with a good senior season, Quarless could be the first TE taken in the 2010 draft."
:D

[swede]

I'd take Tony Pike. QB out of Cincinnatti

He just needs a couple years of feeding up.

He's tall productive, makes the throws.

[mission]

is that carlton wr guy still around?

[imscott72]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqhQW82fszw

couple highlights of Quarless in this local (college) news production ..

guy looks like j mike no joke... they are talking about how he can get split out.

The commentator said "with a good senior season, Quarless could be the first TE taken in the 2010 draft."
:D

Wow..Could be a monster sleeper..

[channtheman]

Interesting. Raiders get Campbell for a 4th rounder in 2012.

[RashanGary]

I'm intrigued by this guy. Just in the small clip I saw, he looks like a little more of a body catcher than Finley, but physically, this guy is a hell of an athlete just like Finley.

[red]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

i think ted knows he found a gem in brad jones last year

many on here seem to think he has to be replaced, but IMO he played pretty damn good for a rookie last year

i see no reason to look for an upgrade unless its a truly special prospect like hughes, graham or kindle

[Bretsky]

It was a boom or bust kind of pick. Sounds like Bedard was kosher with it...steallar talent if he has his head on straight. Worth a shot when the talent had been drained pretty clean at our needs.

Moats I think is still on the board. Still would like him here but my guess is TT drafts somebody we haven't heard of again. And that's doesn't mean it's bad

[rbaloha1]

Kiper and McShay love Quarles -- a first round talent with questionable work ethic. Sound familiar?

Another late round gem. The Packers have plenty of playmakers. Lets hope the line gels.

those little highlights they showed he looks like more of a playmaker than lee for sure .. same build as finley (little shorter)

Reminds of Keith Jackson. Off the field issues dropped him. Appears those issues are done. Does not appear to be another Jolly.

[mission]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqhQW82fszw

couple highlights of Quarless in this local (college) news production ..

guy looks like j mike no joke... they are talking about how he can get split out.

The commentator said "with a good senior season, Quarless could be the first TE taken in the 2010 draft."
:D

Wow..Could be a monster sleeper..

gotta love the one where there are like 3 dudes trying to drag him down for five yards.

he probably just needs a good fire lit under his ass.

[Gunakor]

is that carlton wr guy still around?

yes, and that's what I'm thinking too. 6'4" tall, 4.4 speed, great hands... Sounds like a faster version of Ruvell Martin to me. I'd love it if he were our pick.

[Bretsky]

is that carlton wr guy still around?


yup

[falco]

J~will time!

[imscott72]

Raiders now have 1st round QB's from 2003, 2005, and 2007.. :lol:

[red]

i like the TE pick

he sounds like a bit of a project but could turn into another finley. if he does then in a couple years we might just have the greatest show on grass

[Bretsky]

is that carlton wr guy still around?

yes, and that's what I'm thinking too. 6'4" tall, 4.4 speed, great hands... Sounds like a faster version of Ruvell Martin to me. I'd love it if he were our pick.


ditto as well......this guy or Moats would be alright. Even Dixon

The Central Michigan QB would not surprise me

[Gunakor]

Raiders now have 1st round QB's from 2003, 2005, and 2007.. :lol:

And probably a middle of the road passing attack at best to show for it!

It's gotta be tough to be a Raider fan these days...

[mission]

First of all, it's a fifth round pick. Everybody picked in a fifth round is going to have some perceived flaws.

Second, what's wrong with someone to push Donald Lee?

And what must Teddy think of Brad Jones, then?

i think ted knows he found a gem in brad jones last year

many on here seem to think he has to be replaced, but IMO he played pretty damn good for a rookie last year

i see no reason to look for an upgrade unless its a truly special prospect like hughes, graham or kindle

i see jones being stand out next year ... not matthews standout, but he'll definitely progress. im not as concerned as some but a late round flyer (another jones ?) would be fine at OLB.

i like the idea of some small school offensive weapons now.. some speed. i like the TE pick, let's see that WR or a RB.

i dont really know what the boards are looking like anymore

[Freak Out]

What next.....? CB, LB or ST?

[mission]

What next.....? CB, LB or ST?

i hope cb or st/wr/rb

[swede]

Here we go...last pick in round five, right?

[imscott72]

Desmond Brizcoe WR?

[rbaloha1]

What next.....? CB, LB or ST?

i hope cb or st/wr/rb


BPA

[imscott72]

Here we go...last pick in round five, right?

Yup. We're done until #193..

[green_bowl_packer]

Carlton "NO MONEY DOWN" Mitchell - SD just snagged Crompton from TN.

[RashanGary]

Matt Dodge or Moats?

[swede]

Okay and the pick is commercial :x

[mission]

dammit do they only cut away during packer picks?? i dont want to hear fat rex talking

[imscott72]

Marshall Newhouse OG

[Freak Out]

OT.

[Bretsky]

What next.....? CB, LB or ST?

no
no
no

[pbmax]

38 (169) Packers (Compensatory selection) Newhouse, Marshall OT 6'4" 319 TCU 2.0 --

[imscott72]

Awareness is average. Indentifies and picks up blitzes off the edge from the second and third line of defense. However, inconsistent recognizing defensive line movement and can be a step late reacting to twists. Could do a better job of coming off combo blocks to pick up LB at the second level.

Toughness 4 Not a road grader as an inline blocker that size would indicate. Shows good fight but does not sustain blocks. Needs to develop more of a finisher mentality and aggressiveness with play.

Pass Protection 3 Gets into sets quickly. However, lacks elite foot quickness and lateral movement to hold up protecting the edge at the next level. Susceptible to double moves and will lunge instead of sliding feet when attempting to recover. Uses hands well in combat but lacks a heavy punch to initially stun defenders. Displays an adequate base. Can get put on skates by initial bull-rush but displays ability to sink hips, regain leverage and recover.

Run Blocking 4 Gets into strong initial position. However, does not stay low and fire off ball. Flashes initial pop upon contact but too often feet go dead and does generate hip roll to get proper movement. Does not play with adequate balance and falls off blocks too easily as a result. Shows good torque when running defenders down the line of scrimmage laterally. Effective cutting off defenders from the backside. Limited athlete and severely struggles in space when having to adjust to moving targets or climbing to second level to cut off LB's.

[rbaloha1]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge

[packers11]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...

[Scott Campbell]

Daryn Colledge - hope your bags are packed just in case.

[swede]

Marshall Newhouse OG

Oh good guard!

[red]

could be a decent OG project here

[imscott72]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge

Yea have to agree now..

[Freak Out]

What next.....? CB, LB or ST?

no
no
no

Crystal ball? :lol:

[packers11]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge

Yea have to agree now..

A trade I hope? If not thats another miss in the 2nd round... :(

[RashanGary]

Wow, this is a shockingly high upside draft.

Bulaga was the most boring of the picks. After that, we've gotten some impressive athletes.

Neal, Burnett, Quarless, Newhouse. . . .Wow, we're fishing for stars, clearly.

[Bretsky]

What next.....? CB, LB or ST?

no
no
no

Crystal ball? :lol:


going opposite of what we think

Expect a QB next

[Pugger]

With TT passing on all of these CBs he and Capers must feel Pat Lee will be able to step up and play.

[green_bowl_packer]

Not that it matters now, but here's the list of guys we brought in for pre-draft visits who tend to be the late round picks.

Terrence Austin, WR, UCLA (5-9, 165, 4.45, 15, 35½): Second-team all-Pac 10 kick returner as a senior. Fourth in conference in kick returns at 24.1 and third in punt returns at 9.15. Had 37 catches for 455 yards and four touchdowns. Broke Maurice Jones-Drew's school mark for all-purpose yards with 1,878. Did not score a return touchdown. Probable free agent.

Antonio Robinson, WR, Nicholls State (6-1, 196, 4.54, DNP, DNP): Junior college transfer, played two seasons at Nicholls. Averaged 21.1 yards per catch and 10.4 yards per carry in the team's triple-option offense. Reportedly ran in the 4.4s at pro day. Will be considered for returns. Possible late-round pick.

Robert Johnson, S, Utah (6-2, 203, 4.58, 13, DNP): Junior college honorable mention who found success at the Division I level and is a draft riser. Was 6 when his father was shot and killed. Overcame great odds to become a prospect and has been active in mentoring youth. Played mostly in the box in '09 but has experience playing deep middle. Bench press total is a bit shocking, but he has long arms and had 70 tackles. Was invited to visit, but didn't. Rising up the charts and will go in late rounds.

Danny Batten, DE/OLB, South Dakota State (6-3, 246, 4.71, 30, 32½): Enormously strong defensive end who played inside and outside linebacker in the Texas vs. the Nation all-star game. Projects outside for a 3-4 team. Division 1-AA all-American who had 85 tackles, nine sacks and 17 tackles for loss last year. Had 12 tackles, a sack and 1½ tackles for loss against Minnesota. Grew up in Gilbert, Ariz., and won first-team all-state honors in rugby. Rising up the charts and will be drafted in the late rounds.

Nick McDonald, OL, Grand Valley State (6-4, 306, 5.21, 27, 27): A first-team Division II all-American at left tackle last season who has been drawing interest after a solid pro day workout. Played right guard his junior year. Mother died when he was 14, and father abandoned him and three siblings, who were forced to split up. Nearly drank himself off the team as a freshman but grew up and has said he'll join the Marines if an NFL career doesn't work out. Probable free agent.

Vuna Tuihalamaka, ILB, Arizona (6-1, 230, 4.66,18, 33½): Honorable mention all Pac-10 pick last year who had 68 tackles, 5½ for loss and one interception. Transferred from El Camino Junior College. Was Mission Valley Conference defensive player of the year. Speed has intrigued scouts. Also visited the Colts, Cardinals, Falcons, Ravens and Seahawks. Possible late-round pick.

Jonathan Crompton, QB, Tennessee (6-3, 222, 4.87, DNP, 31): Highly recruited quarterback who never lived up to his billing at Tennessee. Started 19 of 35 games. Completed 224 of 384 for 2,800 yards and 27 touchdowns in '09. Threw 13 interceptions. Had a string of 142 pass attempts without an interception. Mid- to late-round pick.

Alex Henderson, RB, Northern Arizona (5-10, 210, 4.42, 19, 37½): Gained 4,800 yards from scrimmage in four years. All-Big Sky first-team selection. Gained 1,166 yards with 12 touchdowns and a 4.6 per carry average in '09. Had 28 catches for 315 yards and two touchdowns. Rushed for 265 yards and two TDs against Eastern Washington in '06. Possible late-round pick.

Duane Brooks, WR, Stephen F. Austin (5-11, 185, DNP, DNP, DNP): Transferred from Central Michigan in '08. Caught 117 passes for 1,070 yards and six touchdowns in '09 and 59 catches for 808 yards and four touchdowns in '08. Reportedly ran in the 4.5s in private workouts. Played quarterback at Central in '06.

Mikell Simpson, RB, Virginia (6-0½, 210): Rushed 85 times for 386 yards (4.5 average) and five touchdowns in '09. Also caught 27 passes for 236 yards and a touchdown. Injured hamstring against Indiana after scoring four touchdowns. Also suffered a neck injury. Broke his clavicle in '08.

[red]

Daryn Colledge - hope your bags are packed just in case.

yup

he can stick his tender up his fat ass now

[Brohm]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...

tauch and Wells were 7th rounders, never know! Lights a (bigger) fire under Barbre/Giacomini~

[Lurker64]

Pretty good prospect at Guard, mediocre prospect at tackle. Maybe a RT, but probably an OG.

Getting crowded on the OL, Colledge, Giacomini, Barbre, Dietrich-Smith, and maybe even Spitz and Wells are on notice.

[imscott72]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge

Yea have to agree now..

A trade I hope? If not thats another miss in the 2nd round... :(


His trade value is in the crapper. Don't see that happening..Probably outright release..

[pbmax]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...
How on earth can you say that when you haven't seen him?

[Gunakor]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge

Not gonna happen. Colledge is a starter, Newhouse is a guy taken with the very last pick in the 5th round that hasn't played a down in the NFL yet. Even if the new kid beats out Colledge for the starting role, which I doubt is going to happen, Colledge would be retained along with Spitz as utility backups on the line.

[imscott72]

Alright guys..I gotta go spend some time with the wifey..Try to get back later for the next pick..

[Scott Campbell]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge


I'm guessing Barber and Giacco are in trouble too.

[green_bowl_packer]

ON A LIGHTER NOTE . . .

Matt Millen apologizes for calling Jaws a "Polack"
Posted by Mike Florio on April 24, 2010 1:38 PM ET
Even though Matt Millen no longer is in position to screw up a war room on draft day, he still has found a way to do something stupid during the league annual selection meeting.

Earlier today, Millen called ESPN colleague Ron Jaworski a "Polack" while on the air.

Moments ago, Millen apologized for making the remark, explaining that the comment reflected his close, collegial relationship with Jaworski.

And then Millen tried to draft a receiver on behalf of ESPN.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/24/matt-millen-apologizes-for-calling-jaws-a-polack/

[falco]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...
How on earth can you say that when you haven't seen him?

Maybe he's a former scout?

[mission]

anyone know anything about newhouse?

i hate reading the actual scouting reports. they have so much bad shit to say :lol: :lol:

[Gunakor]

This should scare Barbre and Gia and Dietrich-Smith more than Colledge.

[Bretsky]

PFW: "Has a badly built, dumpy body, with narrow shoulders, fleshy midsection and stick legs."


from Twitter via PFW

[ND72]

first thing I read on Newhouse

"Likely won't be drafted or at most a 7th round pick. Production does not match talent. Pushed around easily, and does not do well against big defensive tackles or fast defensive tackles."

[pbmax]

anyone know anything about newhouse?

i hate reading the actual scouting reports. they have so much bad shit to say :lol: :lol:
He's the new Nate Newton. :D

[Gunakor]

LOL, maybe Newhouse himself should be the most worried about this pick!

[swede]

Marshall Newhouse OG

bye bye Colledge


I'm guessing Barber and Giacco are in trouble too.

Barbre had a shot and showed what he couldn't do.

Giaco we don't know so much, but Tauscher stepped in ahead of him pretty easily even after injury and no TC

[Bretsky]

Wow, this is a shockingly high upside draft.

Bulaga was the most boring of the picks. After that, we've gotten some impressive athletes.

Neal, Burnett, Quarless, Newhouse. . . .Wow, we're fishing for stars, clearly.


I have not read that Neal or Newhouse are great athletes

Would agree that Burnett and Quarless fit that

[packers11]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...
How on earth can you say that when you haven't seen him?

Maybe he's a former scout?

haha i'm a packer scout :wink:

I said it wrong. I should of said ... it will be very hard for this guy to make the team... There is a lot of competition on the line right now, I just really want to see another OLB to compete/backup Brad Jones... There isn't really much depth at that position, if Matthews or Jones goes down, there is a major drop...

[pbmax]

first thing I read on Newhouse

"Likely won't be drafted or at most a 7th round pick. Production does not match talent. Pushed around easily, and does not do well against big defensive tackles or fast defensive tackles."
But there is an upside right?

:shock:

[red]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...
How on earth can you say that when you haven't seen him?

no kidding

didn't you guys see our line last year. we were horrible. i wouldn't have minded if we drafted 5 or 6 new o-linemen

i still have that frozen lump of dog shit in the freezer in case this guy doesn't work out either

[RashanGary]

Wow, now the OL is a complete guessing game. There is some major competition right now.

[Scott Campbell]

Well the number of OL guys alone mean that a few have to get cut.

[green_bowl_packer]

PFW: "Has a badly built, dumpy body, with narrow shoulders, fleshy midsection and stick legs."


from Twitter via PFW

that sounds like most of the guys on this board, rather than NFL player. (':P')

[mission]

anyone know anything about newhouse?

i hate reading the actual scouting reports. they have so much bad shit to say :lol: :lol:
He's the new Nate Newton. :D

im down for a plumpy texas kid.. let's see what he can do or ship him out. TT had to like him for some reason.

[ND72]

first thing I read on Newhouse

"Likely won't be drafted or at most a 7th round pick. Production does not match talent. Pushed around easily, and does not do well against big defensive tackles or fast defensive tackles."
But there is an upside right?

:shock:


Say he might be one of the most athletic guards in the draft...that's about it.

[swede]

first thing I read on Newhouse

"Likely won't be drafted or at most a 7th round pick. Production does not match talent. Pushed around easily, and does not do well against big defensive tackles or fast defensive tackles."
But there is an upside right?

:shock:

His backside is his upside

[Lurker64]

anyone know anything about newhouse?

i hate reading the actual scouting reports. they have so much bad shit to say :lol: :lol:

I don't like him outside, bad kick-step, narrow base in space, will lunge and get off balance on the outside.

But on the inside, there's a lot of promise. Good athlete. He's a "natural bender" and he plays with pretty good leverage. Fires off the ball quickly and with power, and he can create creases in the run game. He can anchor, but can't really redirect which is why he's probably strictly an OG prospect. Three year starter, lots of power, good enough athlete, adequate technician.

[pbmax]

Wow, this is a shockingly high upside draft.

Bulaga was the most boring of the picks. After that, we've gotten some impressive athletes.

Neal, Burnett, Quarless, Newhouse. . . .Wow, we're fishing for stars, clearly.


I have not read that Neal or Newhouse are great athletes

Would agree that Burnett and Quarless fit that
Neal yes. Trgovac said it as well as Shaun Herock. And his numbers match that description. Newhouse, I have no idea.

[Bretsky]

Wow, this is a shockingly high upside draft.

Bulaga was the most boring of the picks. After that, we've gotten some impressive athletes.

Neal, Burnett, Quarless, Newhouse. . . .Wow, we're fishing for stars, clearly.


I have not read that Neal or Newhouse are great athletes

Would agree that Burnett and Quarless fit that
Neal yes. Trgovac said it as well as Shaun Herock. And his numbers match that description. Newhouse, I have no idea.


my bad then; I need to go listen to the press conferences

[Administrator]

PFW: "Has a badly built, dumpy body, with narrow shoulders, fleshy midsection and stick legs."


from Twitter via PFW

sounds like what they said about tauscher when he was drafted. awesome.

[red]

first thing I read on Newhouse

"Likely won't be drafted or at most a 7th round pick. Production does not match talent. Pushed around easily, and does not do well against big defensive tackles or fast defensive tackles."
But there is an upside right?

:shock:

yup, 330 pounds. thats a lot of big fat dumping ass to have to move out of the way

[rbaloha1]

NO . WHY. GET A OLB/CB... There is no way this guy makes the team...

tauch and Wells were 7th rounders, never know! Lights a (bigger) fire under Barbre/Giacomini~

what about lang and sitton? TT knows how to find the right guys during this part of the draft.

good bloodlines -- former cowboys rb robert newhouse. sounds intelligent.

[mission]

anyone know anything about newhouse?

i hate reading the actual scouting reports. they have so much bad shit to say :lol: :lol:

I don't like him outside, bad kick-step, narrow base in space, will lunge and get off balance on the outside.

But on the inside, there's a lot of promise. Good athlete. He's a "natural bender" and he plays with pretty good leverage. Fires off the ball quickly and with power, and he can create creases in the run game. He can anchor, but can't really redirect which is why he's probably strictly an OG prospect. Three year starter, lots of power, good enough athlete, adequate technician.

thanks lurk... makes sense.

im down for a "clean house", let the best guys win jobs on the OL. time to work NOW. :drill sergeant:

[Patler]

I never complain about drafting an O-lineman, you need so many of them. Wolf used to say you have to draft at least one every year.

But someone will be gone, the numbers are getting up there. Just like Moll last year, Coston before that. That's a good thing, though.

I can't imagine a scenario in which both Giacomini and Barbre make the team, maybe neither one. You have limited chances to make an impact in pro sports.

[rbaloha1]

PFW: "Has a badly built, dumpy body, with narrow shoulders, fleshy midsection and stick legs."


from Twitter via PFW

that sounds like most of the guys on this board, rather than NFL player. (':P')

what does sitton look like? what about bag of donuts? its not a beauty contest -- if it were bruce campbell wins hands down.

[RashanGary]

you can go to cbssports draft section and click prospect rankings. You can sort players based on position and then click on Vertical, 40, 10 yd split, etc. . .

Neal was one of the top athletes at his position. Not as athletic as Suh or Alualu, but very close to McCoy.

Newhouse was one of the top tested OL in the entire draft too.

[mission]

first thing I read on Newhouse

"Likely won't be drafted or at most a 7th round pick. Production does not match talent. Pushed around easily, and does not do well against big defensive tackles or fast defensive tackles."
But there is an upside right?

:shock:

yup, 330 pounds. thats a lot of big fat dumping ass to have to move out of the way

and some day maybe 340... we might need that with the DLs in the north

[Lurker64]

I never complain about drafting an O-lineman, you need so many of them. Wolf used to say you have to draft at least one every year.

But someone will be gone, the numbers are getting up there. Just like Moll last year, Coston before that. That's a good thing, though.

I can't imagine a scenario in which both Giacomini and Barbre make the team, maybe neither one. You have limited chances to make an impact in pro sports.

Newhouse may be a PS candidate. He could get through, poaching interior OL is relatively rare.

[swede]

PFW: "Has a badly built, dumpy body, with narrow shoulders, fleshy midsection and stick legs."


from Twitter via PFW

Oh...a Frankie clone.

[retailguy]

I never complain about drafting an O-lineman, you need so many of them. Wolf used to say you have to draft at least one every year.

But someone will be gone, the numbers are getting up there. Just like Moll last year, Coston before that. That's a good thing, though.

I can't imagine a scenario in which both Giacomini and Barbre make the team, maybe neither one. You have limited chances to make an impact in pro sports.

I'll never complain about drafting an OL. Weakest part of this team.

WE NEED 5 MORE....

[RashanGary]

I'd be fine if Lang moves out to tackle. Then in place of Barbre and Giacomini, we have Lang and Bulaga.

Inside, Spitz can back up all three positions. Colledge can sitll start until we find something better and Newhouse/Deitrich will be the nice workable prospecs.

[retailguy]

I'd be fine if Lang moves out to tackle. Then in place of Barbre and Giacomini, we have Lang and Bulaga.

Inside, Spitz can back up all three positions. Colledge can sitll start until we find something better and Newhouse/Deitrich will be the nice workable prospecs.

I hope Colledge gets cut during training camp.

[Tarlam!]

Good athlete. He's a "natural bender" and he plays with pretty good leverage. Fires off the ball quickly and with power, and he can create creases in the run game. He can anchor, but can't really redirect which is why he's probably strictly an OG prospect. Three year starter, lots of power, good enough athlete, adequate technician.

And you know all this how? You bagged Iupati and Pouncey, but you never said why. I'd like to know, are these just opinions?

[Gunakor]

I'd be fine if Lang moves out to tackle. Then in place of Barbre and Giacomini, we have Lang and Bulaga.

Inside, Spitz can back up all three positions. Colledge can sitll start until we find something better and Newhouse/Deitrich will be the nice workable prospecs.

I hope Colledge gets cut during training camp.

LOL, he's been a starter for us for a few years now. You wouldn't even want him as a backup if someone beats him out for the starting job?

[Gunakor]

Carlton Mitchell to the Browns. Excellent pick for them.

[rbaloha1]

I'd be fine if Lang moves out to tackle. Then in place of Barbre and Giacomini, we have Lang and Bulaga.

Inside, Spitz can back up all three positions. Colledge can sitll start until we find something better and Newhouse/Deitrich will be the nice workable prospecs.

I hope Colledge gets cut during training camp.

amen. maybe sooner. trade this overinflated dude.

[RashanGary]

I'll never complain about drafting an OL. Weakest part of this team.

WE NEED 5 MORE....

Leave it to RG to turn a positive into a negative ;)

[green_bowl_packer]

PFW: "Has a badly built, dumpy body, with narrow shoulders, fleshy midsection and stick legs."


from Twitter via PFW

that sounds like most of the guys on this board, rather than NFL player. (':P')

what does sitton look like? what about bag of donuts? its not a beauty contest -- if it were bruce campbell wins hands down.

This was a joke, a lil sense of humor? I was talking the badly built, dumpy bodies, and fleshy mid-sections and stick legs on the folks at packerrats board, msg board, forum, or whatever it's called. I'm not criticizing anyone for something I can't do. I'm down with TT.

[Tarlam!]

You wouldn't even want him as a backup if someone beats him out for the starting job?

I'm with RG. He's as much Packer People as was Javon Walker.

[rbaloha1]

I'd be fine if Lang moves out to tackle. Then in place of Barbre and Giacomini, we have Lang and Bulaga.

Inside, Spitz can back up all three positions. Colledge can sitll start until we find something better and Newhouse/Deitrich will be the nice workable prospecs.

I hope Colledge gets cut during training camp.

LOL, he's been a starter for us for a few years now. You wouldn't even want him as a backup if someone beats him out for the starting job?

Inconsistent at best. Lack of upper body strength still an issue.

[swede]

I don't really get the hatin' on Colledge.

He's had some bad games, but he's had games with some awesome zone blocks that turned into touchdowns. I remember more games that we didn't talk about him that ones where we ripped on him.

Certainly he could be upgraded.

He'd be a good back-up I guess.

[Lurker64]

And you know all this how? You bagged Iupati and Pouncey, but you never said why. I'd like to know, are these just opinions?

I like Iupati and Pouncey are prospects, but both have low positional value for Green Bay as the interior OL is good enough to not spent premium picks on it. Iupati plays a bit sloppy and out of control, and is a grabber. Pouncey is pretty good all around and should be a good Center for a long time.

However, for a team that has an "okay" interior OL, spending a fifth round pick on it is a much better choice than spending a 1st round pick on it.

But to be honest, I've watched a lot of TCU over the past few years, I like watching them play defense. Haven't watched much Idaho, and I tend to avoid Florida when they're not playing against a respectable opponent (which is frequently.)

[Gunakor]

A lot of you guys are overreacting to Colledge. Even if he doesn't win the starting job, we better have 2 interior linemen that would be better backups than Colledge before trading or cutting him. 2 years ago he graded out as our best linemen, better than Wells, Clifton AND Tauscher. I hope he's a Packer next year, even if he isn't a starter.

[rbaloha1]

I don't really get the hatin' on Colledge.

He's had some bad games, but he's had games with some awesome zone blocks that turned into touchdowns. I remember more games that we didn't talk about him that ones where we ripped on him.

Certainly he could be upgraded.

He'd be a good back-up I guess.

Always whining about his contract. Refused to sign tender. Makes too many mistakes. A%^ho)@

[Gunakor]

I don't really get the hatin' on Colledge.

He's had some bad games, but he's had games with some awesome zone blocks that turned into touchdowns. I remember more games that we didn't talk about him that ones where we ripped on him.

Certainly he could be upgraded.

He'd be a good back-up I guess.

Always whining about his contract. Refused to sign tender. Makes too many mistakes. A%^ho)@

We didnt' offer him a contract. If he refuses to sign his tender he won't be here anyway. That should have nothing to do with whether he'd be a quality backup for us or not.

[pittstang5]

Moats gone.

Bretsky...keep trying. (lol)

[Tarlam!]

A lot of you guys are overreacting to Colledge. Even if he doesn't win the starting job, we better have 2 interior linemen that would be better backups than Colledge before trading or cutting him. 2 years ago he graded out as our best linemen, better than Wells, Clifton AND Tauscher. I hope he's a Packer next year, even if he isn't a starter.

I was a big Colledge fan. WAS. His off season conduct did it for me.

[Gunakor]

A lot of you guys are overreacting to Colledge. Even if he doesn't win the starting job, we better have 2 interior linemen that would be better backups than Colledge before trading or cutting him. 2 years ago he graded out as our best linemen, better than Wells, Clifton AND Tauscher. I hope he's a Packer next year, even if he isn't a starter.

I was a big Colledge fan. WAS. His off season conduct did it for me.

If he's gone, who's starting at LG. If it's Spitz, then who's our backup interior lineman? A lot of questions to answer before suggesting he be cut or traded.

[imscott72]

Couldn't resist coming back in to post this tweet from Arod to #88.."Just remember who pulls the trigger on Sunday big fella." :lol:

[HarveyWallbangers]

Mike Mayock, NFL Network
154 -- Packers -- TE Andrew Quarless

We are at the point in the draft now where teams will begin to take chances on talent. Quarless is a gifted TE with size, speed and very good hands. He spent most of his career in Joe Paterno's dog house before breaking out his senior year with 41 receptions. Put the tape on against Michigan if you doubt his value as a verticle receiver. If he blocks better, and works harder, he's a starter in the NFL.

[rbaloha1]

I don't really get the hatin' on Colledge.

He's had some bad games, but he's had games with some awesome zone blocks that turned into touchdowns. I remember more games that we didn't talk about him that ones where we ripped on him.

Certainly he could be upgraded.

He'd be a good back-up I guess.

Always whining about his contract. Refused to sign tender. Makes too many mistakes. A%^ho)@

We didnt' offer him a contract. If he refuses to sign his tender he won't be here anyway. That should have nothing to do with whether he'd be a quality backup for us or not.

That is the issue -- he wants a long term k like collins and jennings.

with spitz, lang, bulaga, tcu pick the packers can get rid of colledege like moll.

if moll brought martin colledge could fetch more. colledge should go join palin.