2019 Other Games Thread

[pbmax]

I remember Suck For Luck. Is there a college player of that stature this year?

Tua


https://cdn.32pt.com/public/sl-prod-od-0/images/retail-products/DF2CEB9FD6B5A2/DF2CEB9FD6B5A2-EEF70D933CC6-GS0-TC0-BLK/front/regular.jpg

[call_me_ishmael]

Tua is no Andy Luck. Wouldn’t it just be hilarious if the top pick pulls an Eli and says he’ll no to Miami?? LOL. All that tanking and for what? Next year is the year to tank.

[pbmax]

Good game at Atlanta but it took a half to get going.

Nelson Agholor dropped a TD pass down the sideline after the Falcons took the lead late.

[pbmax]

Agholor gets behind a safety and puts Philly in close enough (red zone) for throws to endzone on 4th and 14.

[pbmax]

Cleveland and the Jets is not a good game. Jets down to their 3rd string QB.

Mike Tannenbaum apparently called in a note to say they had this third stringer in Miami and liked him. Had trouble getting the ball outside the numbers or deep. But they liked his leadership. :lol:

[yetisnowman]

Miles Garrett is a monster

[pbmax]

Browns leading by 20 with ball 2 minutes left and they are throwing with Mayfield.

[mraynrand]

Browns leading by 20 with ball 2 minutes left and they are throwing with Mayfield.

Stupid of course. But It’s like they need all the snaps they can get. Their offense looks awful. Jets played a lot of dime and Baker can’t find the open guy before their poor O line yields pressure.

[mraynrand]

Kitchen gets his first win and only Burnett shakes his hand. That team ain’t right.

[pbmax]

Stupid of course. But It’s like they need all the snaps they can get. Their offense looks awful. Jets played a lot of dime and Baker can’t find the open guy before their poor O line yields pressure.

Willaims can build confusing pressures. Maybe his coverage has gotten confusing as well. Except for letting OBJ get a free release against a safety-ILB short zone.

89 yard TD :roll:

[pbmax]

NFL NextGen player trackers on OBJ's 89 yard TD. Watch the safety, #20, 21 yards off the ball at the snap.

https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1173786933102809088

[channtheman]

How far has MNF fallen that we have the announcers we have? Some of the points they made were ridiculous and made no sense. They kept harping on how when the 3rd string QB for the Jets came in how it jolted the team alive and gave them a spark. I think Booger even said something like "he ignites the team cause they know he knows this offense." And the 2nd string guy who practiced all week didn't? The team was flat for the 2nd string QB?

Not to mention, the spark they were talking about was 4 or 5 straight run plays which any QB in the league can handle, and is exactly what you would expect a 3rd string QB be called upon to do for his first drive. It's not like he came in the game and was slinging passes around and throwing dimes for TDs.

[Radagast]

I agree to a degree with channtheman. I miss Pat Summerall, Curt Gowdy, Frank Gifford, and others. As for the current crop, Tony Romo gets my #1 vote. Al Michaels is very professional, but Cris Collinsworth dampens the broadcast.

I've liked it in the past when celebrities would visit the broadcast booth (on the air). It would be great if Tom Hanks or Kevin Costner or Darell "the rock" Johnson would visit a prime Sunday late game broadcast booth. No politicians, preachers, or convicted criminals would be appreciated. Beauty Pageant Winners? Hell Yeah !!!

[mraynrand]

ICYMI - Chubb called for roughing the QB late in the Chicago game. Probably enabled win.

https://uspotus.com/broncos-bradley-chubb-was-just-called-for-the-worst-roughing-the-passer-penalty-youll-ever-see.html

[Cheesehead Craig]

ICYMI - Chubb called for roughing the QB late in the Chicago game. Probably enabled win.

https://uspotus.com/broncos-bradley-chubb-was-just-called-for-the-worst-roughing-the-passer-penalty-youll-ever-see.html

That was an awful call. Plus, I'm not a fan of the instantaneous timeout.

[mraynrand]

That was an awful call. Plus, I'm not a fan of the instantaneous timeout.

If Chuck Bednarik had made that final tackle, the game would have ended right there.

[run pMc]

That was an awful call. Plus, I'm not a fan of the instantaneous timeout.

That was a bad bad bad call and cost them the game.

[Joemailman]

That was a bad bad bad call and cost them the game.

Terrible call, but they still were in a position to win the game. A few seconds later, all Broncos had to do was stop the Bears on 4th and 15 and couldn't do it. The call kept the Bears alive, but didn't hand them the game.

There's also the question of whether this was a horrible call or a horrible rule.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/roughing-the-passer/


When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight.

[mraynrand]

It’s a judgment call. But I don’t think the defender put all or most of his weight. Also got a generous TO at the end.

[RashanGary]

I’m a Gardner Minshew fan. Matt Flynn had a weak arm but was real savvy. Minshew has an average arm and is real savvy. I can see him playing for a long time.

[RashanGary]

Why is Gardner Minshew looking better than Aaron Rodgers?

[RashanGary]

Son of a filthy bitch, why didn’t we draft Gardner Minshew? I’ve watched all three Jax games and from snap one, I couldn’t believe I was watching a rookie. He’s gonna play for a long time and win a lot of games. Fuck! Tom Caughlin was sitting up in that owners box looking like a damn genius.

Me and my son watched him come in a couple weeks ago watching gamepass and i said, Ethan, we’re looking at a hero right now.

And then I shaved my beard and brought back my sweet porn stach because i was so inspired.

[mraynrand]

Son of a filthy bitch, why didn’t we draft Gardner Minshew? I’ve watched all three Jax games and from snap one, I couldn’t believe I was watching a rookie. He’s gonna play for a long time and win a lot of games. Fuck! Tom Caughlin was sitting up in that owners box looking like a damn genius.

Me and my son watched him come in a couple weeks ago watching gamepass and i said, Ethan, we’re looking at a hero right now.

And then I shaved my beard and brought back my sweet porn stach because i was so inspired.

Dead cat in a top hat, can’t cha see where he was at allright.

[mraynrand]

Another holding call has been made in last nights game. It will be enforced retroactively.

[pbmax]

Who decided holding had to be a point of emphasis? And why? Put more QBs at risk?

[pbmax]

Michael Lombardi @mlombardiNFL
Tennessee has no idea that the most important plays in football are drive starters. They love getting three yards to open a drive. 24 most important plays. Start of drive on offense and defense. 12 drives per game

Even though this is basically an argument for passing, its still stupid.

[mraynrand]

Michael Lombardi @mlombardiNFL
Tennessee has no idea that the most important plays in football are drive starters. They love getting three yards to open a drive. 24 most important plays. Start of drive on offense and defense. 12 drives per game

Even though this is basically an argument for passing, its still stupid.

It's Michael Lombardi, WDYE?

[bobblehead]

Michael Lombardi @mlombardiNFL
Tennessee has no idea that the most important plays in football are drive starters. They love getting three yards to open a drive. 24 most important plays. Start of drive on offense and defense. 12 drives per game

Even though this is basically an argument for passing, its still stupid.

If your QB is Mariotta then any argument for passing has to be weighed against....well, Mariotta.

[Fritz]

Hey, if you can get him to run on first down instead, they'd at least get four yards.

[pbmax]

Hey, if you can get him to run on first down instead, they'd at least get four yards.

As long as they don't give it to Fournette:

@MySportsUpdate
Leonard Fournette has 11 carries for -8 yards. That’s negative 8 yards.

[pbmax]

Scott Barrett @ScottBarrettDFB
All 15 of Leonard Fournette's carries tonight, in order of yards gained:

-7
-5
-4
-3
0
0
0
0
0
2
2
3
4
5
69

[mraynrand]

Scott Barrett @ScottBarrettDFB
All 15 of Leonard Fournette's carries tonight, in order of yards gained:

-7
-5
-4
-3
0
0
0
0
0
2
2
3
4
5
69

9. Student gives great effort
15. Student shows consistent improvement
22. Student performing below grade level

[mraynrand]

lol Bevell and Detroilet.

[pbmax]

Why does Philly have the ball on their 50? Didn't the return go to the 20?

[mraynrand]

Frank Gore is still running in Buffalo

[red]

Scott Barrett @ScottBarrettDFB
All 15 of Leonard Fournette's carries tonight, in order of yards gained:

-7
-5
-4
-3
0
0
0
0
0
2
2
3
4
5
69

he gets better as the game drags on

[mraynrand]

Why does Philly have the ball on their 50? Didn't the return go to the 20?

Didn’t see. Another 4th

[red]

Why does Philly have the ball on their 50? Didn't the return go to the 20?

they called a push in the back on the return

these announcers might be just as bad as ours were

[mraynrand]

OPI!!!

[red]

lions win

[mraynrand]

Lamar Jackson is such a great athlete. But not enough.

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1175835613284708353

What a missed call. Developing a good dislike of Patricia.

[mraynrand]

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1175835613284708353

What a missed call. Developing a good dislike of Patricia.

Sure but you lose a challenge even if you get the call.

[Joemailman]

What does that play have to do with Patricia?

[mraynrand]

What does that play have to do with Patricia?

The refs could have called a PF. Challenge the non call.

[pbmax]

What does that play have to do with Patricia?

I just assume if its flagrantly illegal and they get away with it that Cheat and Patricia teach it.

[pbmax]

The refs could have called a PF. Challenge the non call.

Is that reviewable?

[mraynrand]

Is that reviewable?

I guess. But anyway I had the teams mixed up.

[Joemailman]

Isn't pass interference the only non-call that is reviewable?

[Freak Out]

Man...watching Payton coach in SEA makes one wonder what could have been in GB had he been brought in.

[pbmax]

I could be wrong but I think the broadcast was focusing on the wrong possible pass interference in the Seattle challenge. They wanted a call on the seam, not the fade.

[pbmax]

ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Bruce Arians: I took late delay of game on purpose to move our kicker back

A kick they subsequently missed.

[pbmax]

Watch the ref spot the ball at the top.

https://twitter.com/j_a155/status/1175886057830850560

[red]

Watch the ref spot the ball at the top.

https://twitter.com/j_a155/status/1175886057830850560

good lord

[pbmax]

Packers East indeed.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFGnez-XUAAt_22?format=jpg&name=small

[mraynrand]

Carrie Underwood must be getting fat cuz she’s wearing pants now.

[RashanGary]

Cleveland playing ball

[RashanGary]

Browns playing well vs Rams

[mraynrand]

Justin McCray is your Cleveland RT.

[RashanGary]

Looks like clay is back on roids

[RashanGary]

Bad punt by the Scottish hammer

[RashanGary]

After the Neal, Matthews roid investigation, Clay sucked balls. He’s back to balling. New town, new roid dealer. He’s back.

[RashanGary]

15 more sacks and Clay has 100. He has an outside shot at HOF still.

[ThunderDan]

Browns go for it on 4th and 9 at the 40 and get stuffed. If LA scores CLE has to be kicking itself.

[pbmax]

@gregauman
Giants rookie Daniel Jones is just the second player in NFL history to throw for 300+ yards with 2+ pass TDs and 2+ rushing TDs in his first NFL start as he did in beating the Bucs today. The first? Well, it's Eric Hipple, who did that with the Lions in a 1981 win vs. the Bears.

Bodes well for the rest of the NFC East.



BUM CHILLUPS @edsbs
Eric Hipple is best known for being on the wrong end of this hit, which would have made me walk off the field and quit the stupid game of football forever.

https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/1175964598484328449

@edsbs
I can't even tell what's injured here because Hipple grabs every part of his body at one point. You could tell me Brantley knocked tuberculosis into him and I'd believe you.

[mraynrand]

Browns go for it on 4th and 9 at the 40 and get stuffed. If LA scores CLE has to be kicking itself.

They didn’t even look certain they were running that play. What a mistake.

[pbmax]

They didn’t even look certain they were running that play. What a mistake.

One group (ESPN) cannot find a running play on 4th an 9 in their database going back to mid-2000s.

Pro Football Reference found a Bernie Parmalee run on 4th and 8 in 1997 :D

[Fosco33]

Another sack for cm3

[mraynrand]

Third and ten in their own end zone and everyone is running forty yards downfield. Bad design.

[mraynrand]

Whatever happened to a good ol buttonhook?

[mraynrand]

Rams too clever for their own good

[ThunderDan]

Horrible Int for Rams.

Hit Gurley for the 1st down.

[pbmax]

Horrible Int for Rams.

Hit Gurley for the 1st down.

Coulda had Wentz.

[ThunderDan]

Lots of tricky tack pass interferences

[mraynrand]

5 wide QB draw

[mraynrand]

Need some misdirection.

[RashanGary]

wtf Browns

[pbmax]

On his hands.

[mraynrand]

That was interference the way their calling it.

[pbmax]

I only saw 4th quarter of Saints Seahawks. Everyone online says Seachickens outplayed them. Anyone agree?

[pbmax]

Bad retreat with pressure

[ThunderDan]

Game over. Pass rush ends game and forces Mayfield to throw the Int.

[pbmax]

Had he spun back around, he could have gotten back to pocket.

[mraynrand]

I only saw 4th quarter of Saints Seahawks. Everyone online says Seachickens outplayed them. Anyone agree?

Saints made plays. Kumara ran like a beast. Great ST. Solid, solid team win. Seattle ran up a lot of empty yards. Wilson looks better than Bridgewater, but otherwise Seattle got outplayed. Ha ha.

[mraynrand]

Had he spun back around, he could have gotten back to pocket.

They needed to go against the right tendency. Some change of direction would have helped.

Brownie O line can’t sustain blocks tho

[mraynrand]

When Browns had first and goal they could have run four straight plays with their TOs

[pbmax]

Matthews didn’t even rush. He just waited for Mayfield to commit. Like he was a spy at DE.

[RashanGary]

Just got Done watching philly/Detroit. Two weeks in a row, turnovers hurt philly. Last week Wentz threw picks, looked out of sync with the replacement receivers. This week it was fumbles. Their run game is pedestrian. If Jeffrey and Jackson are out, I think they’ll get beat up by the Packers defense. They have a chance of both guys come back, but I doubt they will.

Detroit looks solid. Not a great team, but solid at everything.

[pbmax]

@edjsports
It’s actually our #1 BEST call of the week. Despite not converting it was the right call by 12.5% win probability.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFJnRDIXoAAlqT5?format=jpg&name=small

[mraynrand]

Do those win probabilities factor in how shitty a team is playing at the time?

[pbmax]

Do those win probabilities factor in how shitty a team is playing at the time?

Not that I am aware of. Its about time and field position mainly. But their site will tell you.

[pbmax]

Daniel Jeremiah
@MoveTheSticks
The Saints play calling vs Seahawks was ultra conservative. Average air yards per completion: 1.8 yards, lowest in the league. Creative screen game (featuring Kamara) was the key to their success. It will be interesting to see if they open it up once opponents adjust.


Sometimes you get ultra conservative and the 2 ST touchdowns validate the strategy.

[mraynrand]

^^^ You play the game in front of you. If your ST and defense keep making plays and Kamara is beasting, there’s no reason to risk TOs/FP killing sacks by airing the ball out in that kind of road environment.

[pbmax]

^^^ You play the game in front of you. If your ST and defense keep making plays and Kamara is beasting, there’s no reason to risk TOs/FP killing sacks by airing the ball out in that kind of road environment.

Sure. But the question always is, can you play a different game if circumstances change or did not play out as you expected?

Most teams can't do that without a halftime.

[mraynrand]

Sure. But the question always is, can you play a different game if circumstances change or did not play out as you expected?

Most teams can't do that without a halftime.

Bridge over Teddy Waters wasn’t ready for a free form whole offense exploration in the toughest road venue. If they don’t get those ST, defensive and Kumara successes they lose by two TDs, lick their wounds and get ready for next week. I don’t think they had any plan b. So the strategy wasn’t so much ‘validated’ as ‘gotten away with.’ But the guys who made it happen still deserve their props.

BTW, I need to get a video of Pete getting a ball in his grill. Jim Nance: “Pete Carroll needs a better cut man in his corner.” L.O.L.

[mraynrand]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLtEaq8y8Bk

[pbmax]

Bridge over Teddy Waters wasn’t ready for a free form whole offense exploration in the toughest road venue. If they don’t get those ST, defensive and Kumara successes they lose by two TDs, lick their wounds and get ready for next week. I don’t think they had any plan b. So the strategy wasn’t so much ‘validated’ as ‘gotten away with.’ But the guys who made it happen still deserve their props.

BTW, I need to get a video of Pete getting a ball in his grill. Jim Nance: “Pete Carroll needs a better cut man in his corner.” L.O.L.

I agree. Helped by Brian Schottenheimer plus Pete sequestered permanently in McCarthy-In-Seattle-for-Playoff-Game mode.

[pbmax]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLtEaq8y8Bk


https://media.giphy.com/media/48lbski8I8BH2/giphy.gif

[RashanGary]

Dalvin Cook is the new Ladanian Tomlinson. Looks like a HOF talent of he stays healthy.

[RashanGary]

Made a small bet on Tarik Cohen to go over 17.5

NFL made adjustment calling less holding in week 3
Cohen went over 17.5 in 10 of 16 last year and got really close on most of the others
On road probably will play veterans more than the rookie
Washington bad run defense

I feel like 17.5 rush yards is a safe bet

[RashanGary]

Booger McFarland. I hate that name

[Bretsky]

Dalvin Cook is the new Ladanian Tomlinson. Looks like a HOF talent of he stays healthy.

absolute stud

[yetisnowman]

Haha with the pick 6.

[RashanGary]

Ugh, booger mcfarland is annoying

[RashanGary]

Cook and Mack are two best players in the north right now. Clark might be next

[RashanGary]

Idiot bears center took 4 yards away from my guy

[mraynrand]

"look, at least I'm not Case Keenum." - Mitch Tubisky

[RashanGary]

"look, at least I'm not Case Keenum." - Mitch Tubisky

Shut the fuck up, right now!

[pbmax]

Heard someone in Green Bay call him "Tulowitski" earlier this week.

[mraynrand]

Shut the fuck up, right now!

I giggled.

[mraynrand]

I told you the Raiders would *ucking know how to use Davis.

[mraynrand]

BRING BLACK DAVIS

[mraynrand]

First and goal from the one for the Giants. That's weird, they used a 'running play' on first down to score.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I told you the Raiders would *ucking know how to use Davis.

What did they do? I’m still boycotting the NFL, other than my beloved Pack of course.

Btw, you can say fuck. Your bible might forbid that great word but Jesus was a liberal. Jesus wouldn’t give a fuck. Besides, Tex swears all the time and he calls himself a good normal Christian.

[RashanGary]

I bet on the patriots to make back the money the Packers pooch pumped away from me. Never have i appreciated a QB who calmly takes what is given as when I bet on the Patriots. Thank you Tom, oh greatest game manager in the history of football.

[mraynrand]

What did they do? I’m still boycotting the NFL, other than my beloved Pack of course.

Btw, you can say fuck. Your bible might forbid that great word but Jesus was a liberal. Jesus wouldn’t give a fuck. Besides, Tex swears all the time and he calls himself a good normal Christian.

I know I can say it, but then I have to do more ablutions. Jesus would have the sadz.

[mraynrand]

What did they do? I’m still boycotting the NFL, other than my beloved Pack of course.

Davis with a 70 yard end-around. The ghost of Schnelker smiled.

[mraynrand]

HaSKINS in for Washington.

Packer will face rookie phenoms in NY and DC.

[RashanGary]

With Brady, every handoff is right in the bread basket
Every screen pass thrown with perfect touch
Every pass thrown in perfect balance
The pace is fast and furious
Calmly throws it away to fight another day when it’s not there
Every play action is convincing

Just all the little things that bore the great Aaron, Tom does with passion.

[mraynrand]

With Brady, every handoff is right in the bread basket
Every screen pass thrown with perfect touch
Every pass thrown in perfect balance
The pace is fast and furious
Calmly throws it away to fight another day when it’s not there
Every play action is convincing

Just all the little things that bore the great Aaron, Tom does with passion.


Why don't you just sleep with him and give us a break?

[RashanGary]

Bad plays that get blown up.... Brady just calmly handles it, doesn’t get pissed at the play caller. Understands it’s football and sometimes that happens.

Very few, almost no audibles at the line. Allows his guys the simplicity of just lining up and playing hard instead of overthinking every play.

It’s the same Brady year after year. But it’s the ultimate winning formula of keeping it simple and doing all the regular things at an exceptional level. I’m a fan.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bad plays that get blown up.... Brady just calmly handles it, doesn’t get pissed at the play caller. Understands it’s football and sometimes that happens.

Very few, almost no audibles at the line. Allows his guys the simplicity of just lining up and playing hard instead of overthinking every play.

It’s the same Brady year after year. But it’s the ultimate winning formula of keeping it simple and doing all the regular things at an exceptional level. I’m a fan.

YouTube T-Brad/J-MAC sideline brawls. Plenty of instances.

That being said, Brady’s the GOAT.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Davis with a 70 yard end-around. The ghost of Schnelker smiled.

OIC.

Not unique. Janis scored on a play like that against the Texans.

[texaspackerbacker]

What did they do? I’m still boycotting the NFL, other than my beloved Pack of course.

Btw, you can say fuck. Your bible might forbid that great word but Jesus was a liberal. Jesus wouldn’t give a fuck. Besides, Tex swears all the time and he calls himself a good normal Christian.

Aw, APB, you're making me feel like the Charles Barkley of role models hahahahaha.

Let me attempt to set you straight on Biblical Christianity. The Bible says do not take God's name in vain. Maybe somebody could dig up a very few exceptions, but I try to comply with that. I assume even you really mean it when you say crap like "Jesus was a liberal" - I suppose it ain't blasphemy if you really believe it hahahaha. The Bible doesn't say shit about "don't say fuck" or "don't say shit" for that matter. It of course, has a lot to say about fornicating, but nothing on talking about it or slangily shortening the word. Perhaps somebody might call me on say "God damn" this or that political or sports entity. Well, I would argue that I am not taking God's name in vain because I'm really calling for God to damn those evil entities to hell.

Apologies for posting this here instead of FYI hahahaha.

BTW, if I and other good people don't boycott the NFL because of those scumbag kneelers, what the fuck reason could you possibly have?

[Rastak]

Lions Chiefs is a helluva game.....


Edit: Looks the Chiefs just took the lead. Under review it seems.

[Rastak]

Lions 20 seconds from losing......Mitch the bitch just got hurt it seems.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Aw, APB, you're making me feel like the Charles Barkley of role models hahahahaha.

Let me attempt to set you straight on Biblical Christianity. The Bible says do not take God's name in vain. Maybe somebody could dig up a very few exceptions, but I try to comply with that. I assume even you really mean it when you say crap like "Jesus was a liberal" - I suppose it ain't blasphemy if you really believe it hahahaha. The Bible doesn't say shit about "don't say fuck" or "don't say shit" for that matter. It of course, has a lot to say about fornicating, but nothing on talking about it or slangily shortening the word. Perhaps somebody might call me on say "God damn" this or that political or sports entity. Well, I would argue that I am not taking God's name in vain because I'm really calling for God to damn those evil entities to hell.

Apologies for posting this here instead of FYI hahahaha.

BTW, if I and other good people don't boycott the NFL because of those scumbag kneelers, what the fuck reason could you possibly have?

Kap’s not in the league.

[Rastak]

Fucking Chase Daniel looked decent......I hate that.

[RashanGary]

Fucking Chase Daniel looked decent......I hate that.

Better than turdbisky. Which isn’t a surprise

[Rastak]

Better than turdbisky. Which isn’t a surprise
'


Yea, I wasn't sure if I was happy or sad to see him leave the game.

[mraynrand]

Send in the Clowny!

[Rastak]

Trubisky is out for the game......Cohen is actually the emergency QB.....

[Cheesehead Craig]

You can't stop Chase Daniel, you can only hope to contain him.

[Rastak]

Vikings need to step up the defense here......Bears OL is keeping everyone off Daniels.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

So the Lions lost, eh?

Pack are back in 1st place. King in the north!

[Joemailman]

So the Lions lost, eh?

Pack are back in 1st place. King in the north!

Your boycott seems to be waning.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Your boycott seems to be waning.

Merely checked score. Didn’t watch game.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Did we really need a full 3 minute timeout with 4 sec to go in the half?

[mraynrand]

Did we really need a full 3 minute timeout with 4 sec to go in the half?
Yes. My bladder was v full.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Yes. My bladder was v full.

Full Bladder Rat

[Rastak]

Bears are playing a helluva game.

[pbmax]

Rarely see that kind of QB praise in a game where the offense scores 16.

:D

[Cheesehead Craig]

Bears are playing a helluva game.

That defense is on another level today.

[Rastak]

Rarely see that kind of QB praise in a game where the offense scores 16.

:D


They are dominating the game more or less.......quite disappointed.

[Cheesehead Craig]

They are dominating the game more or less.......quite disappointed.

Is PA blowing a gasket yet?

[pbmax]

They are dominating the game more or less.......quite disappointed.

I was talking about Brady fanboys specifically, but yes it’s fair to apply to Chase Daniels too.

:lol:

Chase gonna get himself a Fitzmagic rep.

[Rastak]

Is PA blowing a gasket yet?


No idea, watching the network coverage on TV.

[pbmax]

Jameis Winston is strafing the Rams defense. That does not compute.

[Rastak]

Jameis Winston is strafing the Rams defense. That does not compute.


No kidding....

[Rastak]

Bears are straight up playing some good football.

[pbmax]

Cousins is punch drunk. He waited for the hit by the blitzing LB and then stalled in the pocket instead of escaping and went down easily.

Next play was better in that he avoided and rolled out but he is terrible under pressure.

[Rastak]

Cousins is punch drunk. He waited for the hit by the blitzing LB and then stalled in the pocket instead of escaping and went down easily.

Next play was better I that he avoided and rolled out but he is terrible under pressure.


I agree PB......these guys are super intimidated and he is indeed shit under pressure which makes the shitty OL an even bigger problem.

Plus the Bears are hitting on all cylinders.....

[pbmax]

Did the Bears lay-off or did the Vikings need to go shotgun 11 personnel 2 quarters ago?

[pbmax]

Jameis back to form as he throws a pic 6 to endanger the game they are leading.

[Rastak]

Did the Bears lay-off or did the Vikings need to go shotgun 11 personnel 2 quarters ago?


Not sure but the Bears are clearly the better team period.

[Teamcheez1]

After watching this weekend's games, I actually feel better about the Packers.

Yes, we have work to do on many aspects of both the offense and defense, but I think we have a great chance of making the playoffs with continued improvement.

[pbmax]

You’ll be stunned to learn the League failed to review and find pass interference on the Lions Hail Mary.

[mraynrand]

Not sure but the Bears are clearly the better team period.

They're gonna cause problems for every O-line, but if you want to compete you have to block up some of that pressure. Vikings O-line had a very rough outing. Vikings didn't adjust until late and Bears were already in prevent.

[pbmax]

All those passes were SPOT ON!

Scott Kacsmar
Congrats to Tom Brady on being this season's first QB to win a game with a QBR under 20 (19.7).

Josh Allen was 17.0 today and I think it's safe to say that was the worst QB play in a game this season.

[pbmax]

Sean Payton has had cosmetic surgery, hasn’t he.

[mraynrand]

Sean Payton has had cosmetic surgery, hasn’t he.

https://duckduckgo.com/i/a03fae25.jpg

[pbmax]

https://duckduckgo.com/i/a03fae25.jpg

He got the permanent squint package. Now he needs a chin tuck.

[pbmax]

Offensive football needs a comeback. No hands can be used by D line from now on.

[pbmax]

Also, Tyron Smith has a take down on a pass block that has been called twice on the Packers. No penalty.

[Joemailman]

Vontaze Burflict ejected for helmet to helmet hit. If the CBA allows it, I think the NFL should consider banning him.

[pbmax]

Trevor Davis looks even more slight in the Oakland home uniform of white and silver.

[mraynrand]

Trevor Davis looks even more slight in the Oakland home uniform of white and silver.

Ol' pencil legs!

[mraynrand]

Man the noise in the Superdome has to be worth 10 points at least.

Regardless, there's no way the Packers hold Dallas to under 21. They just don't have the run stopping defense the Saints have. I think the Packers can throw around the LBs if Adams can go. If they have to work the middle of the field, they're finished against that D line and LBs.

[call_me_ishmael]

Those are two very good teams right there. I'm not sure the Packers can hang with either. Vander Esch is such a force. Would have loved to have made some moves to get him last year in addition to ol' hot sauce.

[Teamcheez1]

Man the noise in the Superdome has to be worth 10 points at least.

Regardless, there's no way the Packers hold Dallas to under 21. They just don't have the run stopping defense the Saints have. I think the Packers can throw around the LBs if Adams can go. If they have to work the middle of the field, they're finished against that D line and LBs.

A competent QB (not Bridgewater) could have easily hung 28 points on the Cow pokes today.

[run pMc]

A competent QB (not Bridgewater) could have easily hung 28 points on the Cow pokes today.

If Adams can't go what would the Packers hang on them? I think Dallas is the better team, but if Tyron Smith is out and ZaDarius is healthy that could make things tough on Prescott.

[mraynrand]

A competent QB (not Bridgewater) could have easily hung 28 points on the Cow pokes today.

That's what I'd expect from Brees at home. Packers on the road without Adams is a problem. It's mostly a match-up deal. A hobbled Smith will certainly help the Packers, but will it be enough to tip the balance their way against their weakness (run defense). Plus the Packers don't have an All-pro gadget guy like Hill to sustain drives.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Wilson is just plain good. That is all.

[mraynrand]

Troy: "You know Joe, I always say a receiving corps is no better than it's third receiver..."

Preseason ranking
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2837387-ranking-every-nfl-receiving-corps-heading-into-the-2019-season#slide19



19. Dallas Cowboys


Ron Jenkins/Associated Press
Receivers: Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, Randall Cobb, Tavon Austin, Allen Hurns, Noah Brown, Cedrick Wilson, Reggie Davis, Jalen Guyton, Jon'Vea Johnson, Lance Lenoir Jr., Devin Smith

Tight Ends: Jason Witten, Dalton Schultz, Blake Jarwin, Rico Gathers, Codey McElroy

The Dallas Cowboys offense looks vastly different today than it did at the start of the 2018 campaign.

First, the organization's midseason decision to trade a first-round pick for Cooper paid major dividends since 725 of the receiver's 1,005 yards came with the Cowboys. The 24-year-old wideout provides the offense with the true No. 1 target owner Jerry Jones desperately wanted after Dez Bryant's downturn.

Second, Witten returns to the field after a year in the Monday Night Football booth. Yes, the tight end is 37 years old, but he understands the game and should be able to find soft spots in zone coverage.

"The work that he's done in the weight room in the off-season program has been outstanding," head coach Jason Garrett said of Witten, per the Fort Worth Star-Telegram's Clarence E. Hill, Jr. "His testing numbers and all of that are what they've been or even better."

Dallas also hopes Gallup will continue to progress, Cobb still has something left and one of the tight ends can effectively spell Witten.



15. Green Bay Packers


Seth Wenig/Associated Press
Receivers: Davante Adams, Geronimo Allison, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Equanimeous St. Brown, Trevor Davis, J'Mon Moore, Jake Kumerow, Jawill Davis, Allen Lazard, Teo Redding, Darrius Shepherd

Tight Ends: Jimmy Graham, Marcedes Lewis, Robert Tonyan, Evan Baylis, Davis Koppenhaver

Personnel shuffling almost always ensues when a new coach implements a different system.

For the Green Bay Packers, Adams will remain the scheme's top option under new head coach Matt LaFleur. The 26-year-old wide receiver is a two-time Pro Bowl performer coming off of a 1,386-yard campaign. Other roles haven't been determined—specifically slot receiver after Randall Cobb's departure.

"They can be [interchangeable]," LaFleur said, per the Wisconsin State Journal's Tom Oates. "I think it's, are you asking the guy to run a choice route or are you asking him to take the top off and run a vertical route? That's why I think it's important to assemble your receiving corps similar to how you would a basketball team."

Allison, Valdes-Scantling, St. Brown, Davis and Moore all have a chance to expand their roles. If the team's young wide receivers don't respond, quarterback Aaron Rodgers can always throw to the 32-year-old Graham.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Bullshit personal foul on Matthews

[Cheesehead Craig]

But then he follows that up running right past the running back with the ball.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Yep, Wilson's good.

[ThunderDan]

Metcalf drops 2 point conversion. FG now wins the game for the Rams.

[ThunderDan]

That’s an INT.

[Cheesehead Craig]

That’s an INT.

Agree.

[pbmax]

DK Metcalf might stink.

[Cheesehead Craig]

That's just a great defensive effort. 2 straight drops by the Rams WRs

[Cheesehead Craig]

Metcalf drops 2 point conversion. FG now wins the game for the Rams.

I thought the defender made a good play.

[pbmax]

Goff stinks. Horrible under pressure.

[mraynrand]

Wilson should be top of the board for MVP consideration. Everything they do on offense depends on him. Run threat. Perfect throws while on the move. Sees everything. Total clutch. He’s playing out of his mind.

[mraynrand]

Goff stinks. Horrible under pressure.

Exact opposite of Wilson in that regard.

[ThunderDan]

That was a horrible call on 3rd down.

[pbmax]

I take it back. Ball was in good spot. Needs to be caught.

[Cheesehead Craig]

What a bonehead play call

[Cheesehead Craig]

Goff stinks. Horrible under pressure.

Let's see if he proves you wrong.

[pbmax]

Exact opposite of Wilson in that regard.

Yeah. Goff will stand in like an ideal 6’ 5” statue to deliver, while Wilson will move to get a clear throwing lane. Difference is that Goff can’t deliver that ball accurately. Wilson, even after moving, does.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Really bad point return decision

[ThunderDan]

What is up with punt returners?

Makes first guy mss and instead of heading up field, he tries to get to the corner from a dead stop against someone at full speed.

[ThunderDan]

Run a draw and spike the ball.

[Cheesehead Craig]

This looks effortless by the Rams

[ThunderDan]

The Rams are stupid! You can’t get a delay of game.

[ThunderDan]

Wow, he missed the FG.

[pbmax]

Horrible game management.

[Cheesehead Craig]

That's a clutch drive. Shitty ending to it.

[pbmax]

I hate the Seahawks home luck.

[ThunderDan]

Horrible game management.

Yup and they still had a 44 yarder to win the game.

[mraynrand]

When Pete wins games like this he reminds me of Barry Switzer ‘coaching’ the Cowboys in ‘95. He has little to do with their success out there but he reaps the benefits.

[Radagast]

I hate the Seahawks home luck.

You speak with forked tongue. You (tpb) placed 11 Pick Em points on Seattle to win.

Still hate them ? :huh:

[ThunderDan]

You speak with forked tongue. You (tpb) placed 11 Pick Em points on Seattle to win.

Still hate them ? :huh:

That’s texaspackerbacker. Pb didn’t get his pick in. :bang:

[texaspackerbacker]

What? You better check who said what hahahahaha.

[George Cumby]

When Pete wins games like this he reminds me of Barry Switzer ‘coaching’ the Cowboys in ‘95. He has little to do with their success out there but he reaps the benefits.

He's like Barry Switzer's anal polyp.

[mraynrand]

I hate the Seahawks home luck.

Blair Walsh is usually reliable.

[pbmax]

You speak with forked tongue. You (tpb) placed 11 Pick Em points on Seattle to win.

Still hate them ? :huh:

You just love being a scold, don't you?

And yes, I was traveling and did not get my pick in on time. Which is OK, because I would have selected the Rams.

[pbmax]

Blair Walsh is usually reliable.

Its tough being Blair, but I loved most of his work.

[pbmax]

Cannot believe the picks I just had to make for Pro pick em. Lotta points on road favorites. Terrible week. Good thing it's free.

[pbmax]

Trevor Davis is going to win the Fuckdoggle award for the Raiders. Big catch.

He appears to be starting.

[pbmax]

Not a hold on Bears.

[mraynrand]

Vikings hoping they can win 3-0

[pbmax]

Ha Ha in mid-season missed tackle completely form.

[pbmax]

Vikings hoping they can win 3-0

Zimmerman finally just pull the QB off the field on offense?

[pbmax]

Aaron Schatz
There's only so far Dante Scarnecchia can make Marshall Newhouse not suck, but it definitely seems like these plays are designed for Brady to get the ball out quicker and guys aren't open.

Greg Bedard begs to differ.

[Rastak]

Vikings hoping they can win 3-0

Not hardly - 99 yard drive.

[pbmax]

Akiem Hicks might be more important to Bears D than Mack. Raiders are running OVER the Bears with him out with a broken arm.

[mraynrand]

Zimmerman finally just pull the QB off the field on offense?

Spoke too soon.

But I could see Zim pulling Cousins for another lineman.

[mraynrand]

Not hardly - 99 yard drive.

lol Ya, Giants are not a v good team rn.

[Rastak]

Spoke too soon.

But I could see Zim pulling Cousins for another lineman.


Vikings are balling today...helps to be playing the Giants defense.

[Rastak]

lol Ya, Giants are not a v good team rn.

I will say 99 yard drives are hard even against shitty teams....either way, you play who is in front of you.

[mraynrand]

Vikings are balling today...helps to be playing the Giants defense.

yup. That's why I was saying they shouldn't freak over a road loss to the Bears.

[pbmax]

Beats D got blasted on that drive. Raiders making hay on ground.

[Rastak]

Jones ain't half bad, he had all day but a nice throw on that Giants TD.

[RashanGary]

Bears look completely different tha. They have all year

[Rastak]

Beats D got blasted on that drive. Raiders making hay on ground.

A little surprised but any given Sunday, and lots of time left.

[RashanGary]

Jones ain't half bad, he had all day but a nice throw on that Giants TD.

Jones has a really natural throwing motion. Quick release. Big arm. Elite arm talent. And he’s mobile. He’s got a shot for sure. The mental makeup and drive to be great is the question. If he has it, he could be elite.

[mraynrand]

Sam Ficken,
For the Jets a kicken'

0-14 trying to stay alive,
He can't hit it from 55.

[Rastak]

Jones has a really natural throwing motion. Quick release. Big arm. Elite arm talent. And he’s mobile. He’s got a shot for sure. The mental makeup and drive to be great is the question. If he has it, he could be elite.

I'm thinking he'll be pretty good.

[RashanGary]

I'm thinking he'll be pretty good.

Throws well off platform too. Physically he’s got it all

[bobblehead]

Burns with a TD. Winovich with his 4th sack. Gary douching has vag in locker room.

[pbmax]

Akiem Hicks breaking his arm might cost Nagy his job. It’s that bad out there.

[Rastak]

Akiem Hicks breaking his arm might cost Nagy his job. It’s that bad out there.


Watching the Vikings so don't have the Red Zone on as usual....ass kicking by the Raiders?

[bobblehead]

Akiem Hicks breaking his arm might cost Nagy his job. It’s that bad out there.

I nothing them.

[pbmax]

Chase Daniels having a job and not Kaepernick is a deep wound to meritocracy.

[pbmax]

Watching the Vikings so don't have the Red Zone on as usual....ass kicking by the Raiders?

Yep. Bears defense on skates versus run.

Bears offense it’s normal going backward and sideways self.

[Rastak]

Chase Daniels having a job and not Kaepernick is a deep wound to meritocracy.


That's true, but it is a tribute to being a stupid fuck to your employers and what happens when you do. Bad business is bad business.

[mraynrand]

Chase Daniels having a job and not Kaepernick is a deep wound to meritocracy.

but an affirmation of prickocracy.

[mraynrand]

That's true, but it is a tribute to being a stupid fuck to your employers and what happens when you do. Bad business is bad business.

+1

[RashanGary]

Burns with a TD. Winovich with his 4th sack. Gary douching has vag in locker room.

:lol:

Gary might be spatially retarded. He got chip blocked 7 yards out of a play last week by a TE. I’ve never seen that in 30 years of football.

[RashanGary]

It’s hard for me to fathom why a 280 pound man with ungodly strength would literally run away from a 250 pound would be blocker. I keep racking my brain trying to understand Gary, but I can’t. He’s retarded. I’m convinced.

[mraynrand]

It’s hard for me to fathom why a 280 pound man with ungodly strength would literally run away from a 250 pound would be blocker. I keep racking my brain trying to understand Gary, but I can’t. He’s retarded. I’m convinced.

Hopefully he watched some Reggie tape during the mini-bye.

[pbmax]

That's true, but it is a tribute to being a stupid fuck to your employers and what happens when you do. Bad business is bad business.

So if there had been a rule, what would the default penalty be? Fine? 1 game?

This now is owners just being afraid of standing up.

[Rastak]

Safety - fuck you Giants.

[Rastak]

So if there had been a rule, what would the default penalty be? Fine? 1 game?

This now is owners just being afraid of standing up.


Dude, if you actively alienated your customers you'd be instantly fired from your job.....

[pbmax]

Bears defense regains footing, holds to FG.

[Rastak]

Bears defense regains footing, holds to FG.
'

Still getting the shit beat out of them it seems......didn't see this coming.

[pbmax]

Dude, if you actively alienated your customers you'd be instantly fired from your job.....

Show me the lack of customers from that year. Barely made a blip. Trends did not change.

They were avoiding headlines.

[mraynrand]

Show me the lack of customers from that year. Barely made a blip. Trends did not change.

They were avoiding headlines.

yes, to save their product.