Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[MadtownPacker]

Wow, Quinn's girlfriend is pale.

Soon to be fairly rich too if she plays her cards right.That puta is getting the boot as soon as the big check gets cashed!!

If she was really smart she would have tricked him into marrying her before the draft!

[LL2]

I wish teams would pick faster so they can get to GB!

[FritzDontBlitz]

calvin johnson goes to the wr graveyard. gotta love it.

:lol:

Johnson will excel anywhere. Roy Williams hasn't exactly been hurt by going to Detroit. Neither has Mike Furrey.

calvin johnson will definitely improve detroit. in fact, nfl commissioner roger goodell is already practicing his "with the THIRD PICK in the 2008 nfl draft, detroit chooses...."

8-)

[BallHawk]

Wow, Quinn's girlfriend is pale.

Soon to be fairly rich too if she plays her cards right.That puta is getting the boot as soon as the big check gets cashed!!

If she was really smart she would have tricked him into marrying her before the draft!

Or have a secret affair with Tom Brady, get pregnant, and then say it's Quinn's.

[Rastak]

Anounce the damn pick already.....

[FritzDontBlitz]

#2 overall huh? Ready to have 2 catches for 15 yds??
http://images.packers.com/images/action/harris_al_120.jpg

lmao

good one madman.....

[Bretsky]

OK, I put in Quinn

Good money at stake as the other two took Thomas

[BallHawk]

Joe Thomas! Wow!

[BallHawk]

OK, I put in Quinn

Good money at stake as the other two took Thomas

Ouch!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

:shock: Wow, the best move Cleveland has made in years

[Rastak]

Thomas to Cleveland....a safe pick.

[Bretsky]

shit, I just lost $15 on that pick

[Fosco33]

Nice job, Joe!

[Reggie 92]

I have a feeling that Quinn will be a perrenial pro-bowler/franchise QB.

[Rastak]

Strengths: Possesses excellent height, big hands and adequate bulk. Still has room to add weight to his frame. He is extremely agile and athletic, especially for such a tall lineman. He displays good upper body power and a powerful hand punch. Exceptional when asked to protect the quarterback's blindside. Gets set quickly in pass pro and stays very much under control. Rarely loses to speed off the edge. Stays balanced and shows the lateral mobility to work back inside versus athletic double moves. He takes solid angles as a run blocker and general gets very good positioning. He has become feistier with more experience and continues to improve his consistency when it comes to sustaining blocks.

Weaknesses: Despite a smooth recovery, there's still concern regarding long-term durability as a result of 2006 knee surgery. He lacks ideal lower-body bulk and strength. Plays with a narrow base at times and is susceptible to a powerful bull rush. He's not an overpowering run blocker and he can be a bit of a "finesse" blocker at times. Also, his arms are not as long as his massive frame would indicate.

Overall: Thomas played in 10 games as a true freshman in 2003, nine of which were as a blocking tight end before he switched over to defensive end for the Music City Bowl vs. Auburn. He took over as Wisconsin's starter at left tackle for the entire 2004 season (12 games). In 2005, Thomas once again started every game (13) for the Badgers at left tackle, earning consensus First Team All-Big Ten honors several All-American recognitions. He did, however, suffer a torn left ACL while filling in along the defensive line during Wisconsin's Capital One Bowl victory over Auburn. Thomas had off-season surgery and missed 2006 spring practice while rehabilitating. He retuned healthy in the fall and captured the Outland Trophy as the nation's top offensive lineman, among many other individual awards, after starting all 13 games at left tackle.
Just months removed from off-season knee surgery, Thomas looked a bit mechanical and seemed to lack confidence early in the 2006 season. However, he made huge strides as the season progressed and was fully returned to form by midseason. Thomas possesses an ideal combination of size, athleticism and upper-body power, which is why he projects as a future perennial starter at left tackle in the NFL. In our opinion, Thomas ranks as one of the elite prospects in the 2007 class and he should be off the board within the top-five overall selections.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[Tarlam!]

OMG.

How far will Quinn fall?

[LL2]

Joe Thomas! Wow!

Quinn is going to drop like Lienhart

[Reggie 92]

Awesome! Joe deserves it...

[pacfan]

Joe Thomas! Wow!

good pick for cleveland.

Does Tampa trade? no real drama in the draft so far

[HarveyWallbangers]

There goes my friggin' mock. Quinn's freefall is going to screw a lot of picks up. This is a bad scenario for Minnesota--if they don't want Quinn. Unless a team trades up to get him before their pick.

[Rastak]

Tampa takes Gaines Adams?

[Bretsky]

Should have known better; in my mock I submitted Joe Thomas as the #3. I was a flipper.

OK, looks like Gaines Adams is next

[FritzDontBlitz]

OMG.

How far will Quinn fall?

what if he falls to 16? will he be playing with his brother-in-law in 2007?

i doubt he'll fall that far though....

[Reggie 92]

The Cadillac slipped last year. Would be surprising, but they might snag AP here.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Tampa takes Gaines Adams?

Yeah, to use as tradebait with Detroit. I hope.
:D

I'm not a big fan of Adams, so I hope he ends up in Detroit.

[Rastak]

There goes my friggin' mock. Quinn's freefall is going to screw a lot of picks up. This is a bad scenario for Minnesota--if they don't want Quinn. Unless a team trades up to get him before their pick.

I completely disagree....I'd trade 7 with Quinn on the board. Hell, I'd just take him if I couldn't find a suitor. I think he'll be a pretty good QB. They'd have to move either Jackson or Quinn in a couple of years depending on who turned out to be the better NFL QB.

[MJZiggy]

Should have known better; in my mock I submitted Joe Thomas as the #3. I was a flipper.

OK, looks like Gaines Adams is next

That would be good because I had them switched and if they take Adams it doesn't screw me up too badly.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

So if AP falls to 6 are the Pack going to try to trade up?

[BallHawk]

I could see this pick being traded for someone who likes Quinn.

[Lurker64]

Doesn't Tampa still need a lot of offense? I mean, they're stacked at QB (with what, exactly) but they need a WR (too early IMO), and Peterson certainly wouldn't be a ridiculous pick here.

[gbgary]

surprises already...this is gonna be a fun first round.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Cadillac slipped last year. Would be surprising, but they might snag AP here.

Personally, I think it was because of the blocking and all of the rookies they had starting on the OL. Makes some sense though, but I'd guess they take Adams. They could use him on the team or as tradebait for Detroit. Then again, I'm not a big fan of Adams. Maybe they see what I see.
:D

[BallHawk]

So if AP falls to 6 are the Pack going to try to trade up?

I hope not.

Luckily, Ted's at the helm.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

The Cadillac slipped last year. Would be surprising, but they might snag AP here.

Personally, I think it was because of the blocking and all of the rookies they had starting on the OL. Makes some sense though, but I'd guess they take Adams. They could use him on the team or as tradebait for Detroit. Then again, I'm not a big fan of Adams. Maybe they see what I see.
:D

Any time a DE runs in the 4.3/4.4 range he'll be close to being a top 5 pick, I don't see how the Bucs can pass on him, especially with Rice

[Reggie 92]

Steve Young took too many shots to the bean..he mumbles a lot.

[MadtownPacker]

So if AP falls to 6 are the Pack going to try to trade up?Hell no they aint!!! TT will find someone who works out just as well in round 2.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I completely disagree....I'd trade 7 with Quinn on the board. Hell, I'd just take him if I couldn't find a suitor. I think he'll be a pretty good QB. They'd have to move either Jackson or Quinn in a couple of years depending on who turned out to be the better NFL QB.

Just because they want to trade down doesn't mean they will be able to trade down. Apparently, Washington and some other teams want to trade down also. If they are unable to trade down, then they take Quinn or they bypass Quinn and take a corner? It will be ugly over at Vikings draft HQ. The fans will be unhappy. I'm saying it could. Maybe they can leverage Quinn for more picks.

[gbgary]

Steve Young took too many shots to the bean..he mumbles a lot.

i think he's great.

[pacfan]

NFLN can't find Thomas (on Lake Michigan), I love it. A player not caught up in the hype.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Cadillac slipped last year. Would be surprising, but they might snag AP here.

Personally, I think it was because of the blocking and all of the rookies they had starting on the OL. Makes some sense though, but I'd guess they take Adams. They could use him on the team or as tradebait for Detroit. Then again, I'm not a big fan of Adams. Maybe they see what I see.
:D

Any time a DE runs in the 4.3/4.4 range he'll be close to being a top 5 pick, I don't see how the Bucs can pass on him, especially with Rice

Adams? He doesn't run anywhere near that good. That's why I don't like him, and I haven't read anywhere that showed he runs better than about high 4.6/low 4.7s. Plus, he's undersized.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/draft/prospect?contentId=8791001&year=2007


AGILITY TESTS

Campus: 4.72 in the 40-yard dash...350-pound bench press...Bench presses 225 pounds 20 times...

[ahaha]

Steve Young took too many shots to the bean..he mumbles a lot.

i think he's great.

He looked like a genius working next to Michael Irvin. But then again, who wouldn't?

[packinpatland]

NFLN can't find Thomas (on Lake Michigan), I love it. A player not caught up in the hype.

Sounds like Hawke last year. Wasn't he a 'no-show' at MSG?

[gbgary]

Steve Young took too many shots to the bean..he mumbles a lot.

i think he's great.

He looked like a genius working next to Michael Irvin. But then again, who wouldn't?

LOL

[ahaha]

They're going to take Okoye.

[Bretsky]

It sickens me every time ESPN lists our key additions and I see

Frank Frickin Walker

[Rastak]

Adams is on the phone....

[HarveyWallbangers]

43 users online at this time. 31 more to break the record.
:D

[ahaha]

Adams is on the phone....

Could be posturing. He doesn't look too giddy.

[pacfan]

NFLN can't find Thomas (on Lake Michigan), I love it. A player not caught up in the hype.

Sounds like Hawke last year. Wasn't he a 'no-show' at MSG?

yep, he skipped the draft show.

Anybody know if this is the highest a UW player has been drafted?

[mngolf19]

Adams is on the phone....

Yup, here goes Adams. I didn't want MN to take him anyway.

[BallHawk]

Yup.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Adams is on the phone....

Could be posturing. He doesn't look too giddy.

Maybe his agent told him that he's been traded to Detroit.
:D

[HarveyWallbangers]

Adams is on the phone....

Yup, here goes Adams. I didn't want MN to take him anyway.

I'm with you on that one. Well, I should say I wanted him to fall to Minnesota.
:D

[Bretsky]

OK anybody want to disagree that Levi Jones goes #5 to Arizona ?

[Rastak]

Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height and only decent bulk -- but room on his frame to get bigger. Very agile for the position. Displays explosive first-step quickness and good top-end speed as an edge rusher. Displays very good instincts and awareness as a pass rusher. Has long arms, times his jumps well and does a great job of batting down passes at the line of scrimmage. He also has shown good fluidity when occasionally asked to drop in coverage on zone blitzes. He has improved his discipline and technique versus the run. Does a fine job of sealing off the backside. He gets upfield quickly and can be disruptive in the backfield versus the run. Also shows very good change-of-direction skills in space, which allows him to redirect and pursue as a run defender.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal bulk and lower body strength. He will need to improve his size in order to consistently take on NFL blockers. He absorbs too many blocks and doesn't do a consistent enough job of disengaging once reached. Needs to play with more consistent leverage versus the run. Has a tendency to come out of his stance too high and will allow linemen to get into his pads too frequently. He needs to become more consistent as a tackler. He will overextend at times and gets caught lunging or leaving his feet too frequently.

Overall: Adams was redshirted in 2002. He saw action in 12 games as a backup defensive end for the 2003 season, registering 15 total tackles, four tackles for loss, and one sack. Adams played in all 11 contests with just one start (Texas A&M) in 2004 but did win Clemson's defensive 12th man award after recording 35 total tackles, eight tackles for loss, five sacks, and two blocked punts. In 2005, he took over as the starting "bandit" DE and made 56 total tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, 29 quarterback pressures, and three forced fumbles. Adams started all 13 games during the 2006 season, finishing with 62 total tackles, 17.5 tackles for loss, 12.5 sacks, two forced fumbles, and three fumble recoveries.
Adams made a wise decision to bypass the 2006 NFL and return for his senior season. He played eight-man football in high school, so he needed the extra time in college to mature both physically and as a player. He still needs to get bigger and do a better job of defending the run. He will take some plays off and doesn't appear to give the same effort from one-snap to the next. However, he is an outstanding athlete with the burst and natural instincts to immediately become an impact pass rusher in the NFL. While it's possible he could play rush-linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, we think he fits best as a weak-side DE in a four-man front. Regardless, Adams grades out as the premier defensive end prospect in the 2007 class and he should come off the board within the top-10 picks.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm 3 for 4, but with Thomas going to Cleveland, here's where my mock goes to hell.

[mngolf19]

Here goes Petersen.

[Tarlam!]

Quinn to Minnie?

Or Chicago, if they trade with WAS.

[Rastak]

Here goes Petersen.


Maybe.....or the trade down if possible. I would take Landry here or try and trade down.

[AtlPackFan]

OK anybody want to disagree that Levi Jones goes #5 to Arizona ?

Levi Brown???

[HarveyWallbangers]

Here goes Petersen.

You'd think so. You never know with the Cards. I'd rather not have him available for Minnesota. I hope Peterson and Landry go in the next two picks, so the Vikings take Quinn or reach for one of the corners. Then, I hope they are unable to trade down.
:D

[BallHawk]

Now this is an interesting pick. If Thomas was still there it's a no-brainer.

Who's the pick now?

Okoye, Peterson, Landry?

[Bretsky]

I don't think so; they already spent a fortune on James

[pacfan]

OK anybody want to disagree that Levi Jones goes #5 to Arizona ?

if they are smart they would trade down with AP still being available, but they need a OT.

[Rastak]

OK anybody want to disagree that Levi Jones goes #5 to Arizona ?

Levi Brown???

It's a little early but the pick would make some sense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Peterson, Brown, or Landry. Personally, I'm hoping it's Peterson or possibly Landry.

[AtlPackFan]

Now this is an interesting pick. If Thomas was still there it's a no-brainer.

Who's the pick now?

Okoye, Peterson, Landry?

I say the tackle from Penn State

[Reggie 92]

AP to Arizona would not make sense. They would have about $80 invested in the RB position. Their O-Line is shit.

[ahaha]

How about Quinn? They could use a QB to throw to up and coming stars in Edwards and Winslow. a little late on this one

[HarveyWallbangers]

AP to Arizona would not make sense. They would have about $80 invested in the RB position. Their O-Line is shit.

Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I just read a lot of mocks that had him projected here.

[mngolf19]

Here goes Petersen.

You'd think so. You never know with the Cards. I'd rather not have him available for Minnesota. I hope Peterson and Landry go in the next two picks, so the Vikings take Quinn or reach for one of the corners. Then, I hope they are unable to trade down.
:D

I still think Anderson or Landry, possibly Revis for MN.

[Rastak]

Here goes Petersen.

You'd think so. You never know with the Cards. I'd rather not have him available for Minnesota. I hope Peterson and Landry go in the next two picks, so the Vikings take Quinn or reach for one of the corners. Then, I hope they are unable to trade down.
:D


Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....

[ahaha]

What the hell am I talking about?

[Tarlam!]

Cards are gonna take Levi....

[mngolf19]

What the hell am I talking about?

That's what I was thinking. :D

[Rastak]

OK anybody want to disagree that Levi Jones goes #5 to Arizona ?

Levi Brown???


Good call, looks like he goes #5.

[Brando19]

Adrian Peterson will be the Cardinals pick.

[ahaha]

What the hell am I talking about?

That's what I was thinking. :D

I think that draft day blunt was a little big :lol:

[MadtownPacker]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....For the record, I hope the entire NFC North (except the Pack) reaches on crappy players!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....

Okay, Pot!

Sincerely,
Kettle

(Randy Moss)

[mngolf19]

What the hell am I talking about?

That's what I was thinking. :D

I think that draft day blunt was a little big :lol:

You might not think that later if GB takes Lynch.

[Rastak]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....

Okay, Pot!

Sincerely,
Kettle

(Randy Moss)


Hey, I'm thinking it, not saying it!


:lol: :lol:


(by the way, that's my honest opinion on Moss)

[Brando19]

Guess I was wrong. The Cardinals have alot of faith in James, but none in their OL.

[MadtownPacker]

Damn, is Quinn gonna fall to #16?

What to do, oh what to do!!

[BallHawk]

Can't argue with that pick.

[Reggie 92]

Amen Madtown Packer.

I wish the Queens, Bears, and Lions nothing but total misery and crappy luck.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

What the hell am I talking about?

That's what I was thinking. :D

I think that draft day blunt was a little big :lol:

You might not think that later if GB takes Lynch.

GB will not take Lynch, mark it down, write it on the wall, or whatever you want to do

[BallHawk]

Damn, is Quinn gonna fall to #16?

What to do, oh what to do!!

I think he'll go to Miami.

[mngolf19]

Chicago is stupid if they don't trade up for Quinn now.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....For the record, I hope the entire NFC North (except the Pack) reaches on crappy players!!

Agreed. I'm hoping for worst case scenario for all NFC North teams.

WCS:
Detroit = trading Calvin Johnson
Minnesota = drafting Leon Hall or Brady Quinn (for me)
Chicago = not sure yet

[MadtownPacker]

Hey, I'm thinking it, not saying it!


:lol: :lol:


(by the way, that's my honest opinion on Moss)
Just say it already you panocha! You know its what you want to do!

[Brando19]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....For the record, I hope the entire NFC North (except the Pack) reaches on crappy players!!

Too late...in case you didn't see....the Lions have Johnson. :(

[AtlPackFan]

Damn, is Quinn gonna fall to #16?

What to do, oh what to do!!

What the hell would you do if that happened??? :shock:

[Rastak]

Levi Brown
OT | (6'5", 323, 5.4) | PENN STATE

Scouts Grade: 96



Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height and very good bulk. He displays outstanding quickness and body control for such a big offensive lineman. He has long, thick arms and also has a wide base. He does a good job of coming out of his stance low as a run blocker and he is big enough to engulf most defenders at the point of attack once in position. Does a good job with his first step and consistently takes good angles as a run blocker. Works hard to finish and shows enough of a mean streak. Sets quickly and rarely will get beat by speed off the edge. He displays above average lateral mobility. Also shows awareness to pick up stunts and blitzes in pass pro.

Weaknesses: Still has room to improve in terms of his overall technique. He needs to become more effective with his hand-placement and avoid getting crossed over as much in pass pro. He falls off of blocks occasionally and needs to do a better job of locking on and sustaining. He absorbs defenders at times instead of being aggressive and attacking. He will flash a mean streak occasionally but he also will look mechanical at times, which leads to him losing leverage and balance. He was durable throughout most of his career but minor knee surgery as a senior still generates concern about his durability.

Overall: Brown practiced at defensive tackle in 2002, did not see any action, and was redshirted. He was converted to the offensive line before the 2003 season and became the starting left tackle for all 12 games that year. As a redshirt sophomore in 2004, Brown started 10 games (nine at LOT and one at ROT), missing one game (10/9 vs. Purdue) because of a sprained knee that he sustained vs. Minnesota. He started all 12 games at the left tackle position in 2005. Brown started all 11 of the games he played in as a senior in 2006, missing two (Northwestern and Minnesota) as a result of a surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his knee.
Brown is an experienced left tackle prospect that finished his career at Penn State as a four-year starter. He still has room to improve in terms of technique, especially in pass protection. His knee injury as a senior also proved to be a minor setback. Despite those concerns, we still give Brown a mid-first round grade because of his outstanding combination of size, agility and strength. Furthermore, he was durable for the three seasons prior to his senior year and his footwork is correctable.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[mngolf19]

So who they taking, TPB?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Levi Brown getting drafted was good for Minnesota. Then again, I think they could use a RT. They'll have two of these three on the board: Peterson, Landry, Quinn.

None of them absolutely scare me in Minnesota, but I think I'd least like to see Peterson in Minnesota.

[Rastak]

Skins take Landry here I guess.....

[Bretsky]

Shit, the Vikings might have the choice between Quinn and Peterson

[Fritz]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....For the record, I hope the entire NFC North (except the Pack) reaches on crappy players!!

Too late...in case you didn't see....the Lions have Johnson. :(

Don't give up yet...Millen could trade Johnson to Atlanta, and cement his reputation as the worst GM of any team of any sport of any time of any country, ever.

[FritzDontBlitz]

by the way. i am watching the draft from my hotel room in beautiful downtown toronto, the u-turn capital of the world. :crazy: thank god tsn carries most major sporting events in america, for a second i thought i was gonna have to trash my room cuz if it wasnt on tv i'd be stuck with the crappy wi-fi service my hotel provides. :x

is roger goodell canadian? dude sounds like every guy i've met since i crossed the canadian border. which reminds me: if you yanks ever decide to visit the great white nort', i suggest you shave your grizzled beard BEFORE you head for the border. i didn't, and it ended up costing me a one hour visit with immigration while a cute lil customs official searched my car. i managed to make the best of it, but i'm not sure how impressed she was with a guy who was trying to flirt while doing the peepee dance because they wouldnt let me go to the restroom until they cleared me to enter their country.... :shock: :whaa:

now, trade for moss already!!!! :worship:

[MadtownPacker]

Amen Madtown Packer.

I wish the Queens, Bears, and Lions nothing but total misery and crappy luck.
What a fine Packer backer you are!

Hell I want the entire NFC (except our beloved Pack) to blow their picks!!! :twisted:

[Reggie 92]

Thank God Daniel Schneider has nothing to do with the Packers. They are a perrenial train wreck and obviously do not value their draft picks. How the hell did they end up with one pick in the first five rounds??

[BallHawk]

Skins take Landry here I guess.....

That'd be my guess, too.

[Brando19]

Gee, your a real nice guy today aren't you? Geez......do you hear me saying, boy I hope Green bay reaches for a crappy player over and over? LOL......you kill me Harv....For the record, I hope the entire NFC North (except the Pack) reaches on crappy players!!

Too late...in case you didn't see....the Lions have Johnson. :(

Don't give up yet...Millen could trade Johnson to Atlanta, and cement his reputation as the worst GM of any team of any sport of any time of any country, ever.

Good point. I think the Skins will take Peterson.

[wist43]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

[MJZiggy]

Skins take Landry here I guess.....

That'd be my guess, too.

That would be mighty nice of them.

[MadtownPacker]

Shit, the Vikings might have the choice between Quinn and PetersonLet em have AP!!

I heard a rumor Cullen Jenkins wants to test his collarbone!

[ahaha]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

I agree. They must have tried to trade down.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

I'm hoping Minnesota does the same with their pick (by not taking Landry or Peterson if they are there), but I have a feeling they'll wise up and take Peterson.

[MadtownPacker]

How the hell did they end up with one pick in the first five rounds??Oh shit, you serious? How the hell did that happen?

[Rastak]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

I'm hoping Minnesota does the same with their pick (by not taking Landry or Peterson if they are there), but I have a feeling they'll wise up and take Peterson.


I'd rank Landry first, Peterson second and Quinn thrid....

[mngolf19]

Shit, the Vikings might have the choice between Quinn and PetersonLet em have AP!!

I heard a rumor Cullen Jenkins wants to test his collarbone!

Mad, when's that car gonna back up and make you a quesadilla? :wink:

[HarveyWallbangers]

50 users online now. 24 more to go.
:D

We should crush the record around the Packer's pick.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

So who they taking, TPB?

The Packers? I'm going to have to say Revis, but predicting the 16th pick is pretty much a crapshoot, hell predicting anything right after 10 is good.

[BallHawk]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

I'm hoping Minnesota does the same with their pick (by not taking Landry or Peterson if they are there), but I have a feeling they'll wise up and take Peterson.

I hope they take Peterson. I do not want to see Brady Quinn two times a year.

[Brando19]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

I'm hoping Minnesota does the same with their pick (by not taking Landry or Peterson if they are there), but I have a feeling they'll wise up and take Peterson.

I hope the Vikings take Ginn, Jr.

[AtlPackFan]

Levi Brown at 5???

Even if he turns out to be a decent LT, I don't think anyone expects him to be an elite Tackle... 5 is way too early for Brown.

I think this is a very good example of over drafting for need, and bypassing higher rated players.

For what its worth, NFLN was saying that a lot of O-line coaches had him rated higher than Thomas.

[BallHawk]

50 users online now. 24 more to go.
:D

We should crush the record around the Packer's pick.

Let's just hope we don't crush the server, as well. :D

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Packers? I'm going to have to say Revis, but predicting the 16th pick is pretty much a crapshoot, hell predicting anything right after 10 is good.

I have a feeling Revis will be gone by then. Buffalo?

[HarveyWallbangers]

For what its worth, NFLN was saying that a lot of O-line coaches had him rated higher than Thomas.

Some, but a majority have Thomas. You can get that with just about any two players. It's not a shock to me though. A lot of scouts like him.

[mngolf19]

The Packers? I'm going to have to say Revis, but predicting the 16th pick is pretty much a crapshoot, hell predicting anything right after 10 is good.

I have a feeling Revis will be gone by then. Buffalo?

Could be MN.

[BallHawk]

Landry is a 'Skin.

[MadtownPacker]

Mad, when's that car gonna back up and make you a quesadilla? :wink:The lowrider only cruises and never bruises!

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Packers? I'm going to have to say Revis, but predicting the 16th pick is pretty much a crapshoot, hell predicting anything right after 10 is good.

I have a feeling Revis will be gone by then. Buffalo?

Could be MN.

I was thinking that, but Morris thinks the prefer Hall--which I would love. Here's hoping they take one of them.
:D

Preferrably, Hall.

[AtlPackFan]

NFLN is saying Landry going to Washington???

[HarveyWallbangers]

Landry is a 'Skin.

Done deal or your guess?

[Fritz]

It's the Redskins, man. They don't believe in the draft, unless it's a first-round, big name.

Got my fingers crossed that Atlanta trades for Calvin Johnson.And that Minny flubs the pick completely.

[Reggie 92]

Wow, looks like Landry is going to Washington.

Taylor and Landry = knockout artists. I would hate like hell to go over the middle against those two!

[Rastak]

Landry is a 'Skin.


Looks that way....nice pick.....looks like the Vikings have their choice of Peterson or Quinn.....a bit surprising....don't F it up Spielman.....

[Rastak]

Landry is a 'Skin.

Done deal or your guess?


Schefter said they are on the phone with him...

[HarveyWallbangers]

Looks that way....nice pick.....looks like the Vikings have their choice of Peterson or Quinn.....a bit surprising....don't F it up Spielman.....

Come on! Don't take Peterson.

[Brando19]

Skins are taking their time.

[HarveyWallbangers]

6 picks in just over an hour. Man, they are fast this year.
:D

[Reggie 92]

Queens are taking Anthony Spencer at #7! HAHA

[Brando19]

They took landry.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Sean Taylor and LaRon Landry? I hope we have a good RB by the time we play the 'Skins.


I agree with the Revis being gone by 16, I was just asked for my opinion, but Revis fills 2 holes immediately and would be a steal at 16.

[Rastak]

Laron Landry
S | (6'0", 213, 4.35) | LSU

Scouts Grade: 97

Strengths: Possesses good height, decent bulk and the frame to get bigger. Shows good fluidity and top-end speed. He consistently gets a quick break on the ball and diagnoses the run very quickly. He shows good toughness and strength in run support, especially for his size. He fills hard and shows adequate power at the point of attack. Sideline-to-sideline playmaker versus the run. He displays better-than-average range in zone coverage and he also can match up one-on-one versus slot receivers in the NFL. He is an instinctive playmaker with adequate-to-good ball skills. He has a good mental capacity and coaches rave about his ability to pick things up quickly. He is a good leader in the secondary and does a great job of getting everyone in position. He has tremendous experience as a four-year starter at the highest collegiate level. He also has been extremely versatile in LSU's secondary throughout his career.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal bulk. Until he gets bigger he will not be able to match up as easily in-the-box at the NFL level as he has in college. He will misjudge the ball in the air on occasion and he still can improve his recognition skills when playing in deep-middle zone coverage.

Overall: Landry played in all 14 games (10 starts) as a true freshman in 2003 and recorded 80 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, three sacks, two interceptions, four pass breakups, and one blocked kick. He was knocked out of the Arkansas game (11/28) with a concussion. In 2004, Landry started all 12 games finishing the season with 92 total tackles, five tackles for loss, three sacks, four interceptions, six pass breakups, and one forced fumble. He once again started every game (13) in 2005 registering 69 total tackles, four tackles for loss, one sack, three interceptions, and eight pass breakups. In 2006 he started all 13 games, earning first team All-American and first team All-SEC honors (both media and coaches), after collecting 74 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, one sack, one forced fumble, one blocked kick, and three interceptions. Over the past four seasons, Landry has seen time at free safety, strong safety, and cornerback.
Landry is as close to the complete package as it gets for a safety prospect coming from the collegiate ranks. He possesses the size, speed, athletic ability, instincts and toughness to step in as an immediate starter in the NFL; he can hold up in the box, in deep-middle zone coverage and one-on-one versus some bigger slot receivers. Landry is the premier safety prospect in the 2007 class and he should come off the board in the top-10 picks of the draft.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[AtlPackFan]

Why you taking Rastak???

[Brando19]

With the 7th pick in the 2007 NFL Draft...The Minnesota Viqueens select...Locker Room Cheerleader Richard Simmons.

[Bretsky]

WHO IS MINNESOTA TAKING ? RASTAK ? OTHERS ?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Peterson, Quinn, trade down, or outside the box?

[FritzDontBlitz]

is that detroit piston chauncey billups sitting next to landry?

gotta love that ballcap landry had on, though. white sox baby! 8-)

[Reggie 92]

LOL Brando!

[Brando19]

Peterson is gone in a couple minutes to the vikings.

[MadtownPacker]

I say the vikings put Quinn out of his misery.

Quinn's gonna have to upgrade to some MN hoe cuz his GF is tore up!!

[Rastak]

Peterson, Quinn, trade down, or outside the box?


Those three would be my choice......I'd trade down, take Carricker and then take Gonzolez, Smith or Jarrett if available in round two....that's my current thought.

[Brando19]

LOL Brando! :)

[mngolf19]

WHO IS MINNESOTA TAKING ? RASTAK ? OTHERS ?

I only know who I want, Anderson. I just don't know who they will take.

[AtlPackFan]

Why you taking Rastak???

God, I hate this laptop WHO you taking Rastak.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Peterson, Quinn, trade down, or outside the box?


Those three would be my choice......I'd trade down, take Carricker and then take Gonzolez, Smith or Jarrett if available in round two....that's my current thought.

So, basically you'd almost be happy with anything they do.
:D

There's only one scenario you don't want. You know they have a good chance of screwing this up.
:D

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I predict the clock runs out on the Vikings........again.

[swede]

I think MN takes Quinn.

[Rastak]

Why you taking Rastak???

God, I hate this laptop WHO you taking Rastak.


Well, I'm torn between Quinn and Peterson....if not, then trade down and take Carriker.

[Rastak]

I predict the clock runs out on the Vikings........again.

I hope it works out as well as it did the first two times.

[Reggie 92]

With the seventh pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Queens select Ben Grubbs

[mngolf19]

I predict the clock runs out on the Vikings........again.

I hope it works out as well as it did the first two times.

Exactly.

[pacfan]

I say the vikings put Quinn out of his misery.

Quinn's gonna have to upgrade to some MN hoe cuz his GF is tore up!!

NFLN is bickering over CB vs Quin and AP

If CB, then KC loses out on the Trent Green trade

[Rastak]

Damn, the suspense is killing me!

[FritzDontBlitz]

With the 7th pick in the 2007 NFL Draft...The Minnesota Viqueens select...Locker Room Cheerleader Richard Simmons.

minnesota is on the clock, get ready to be amazed....

[Brando19]

The Minnesota Queens have traded their pick straight up for Vinnie Testaverde. :lol:

[AtlPackFan]

Damn, the suspense is killing me!

Ain't this fun!!!!

[Reggie 92]

I hope they take Hall ..lol

[Rastak]

Damn, the suspense is killing me!

Ain't this fun!!!!


Yea, it's a damn fun time, draft weekend. Then reading all the grades which mean nothing is almost as fun.

[swede]

I'm still waiting for Tampa Bay to trade Gaines Adams and a 2nd for CJ.

[Rastak]

They sure are beating that Thomas fishing thing to death....

[Brando19]

Here we go!

[Rastak]

Cool!



Peterson to Vikes.......

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Damn, I'd really dread seeing Adrian Peterson twice a year behind Hutch and McKinney. Even with Chester Taylor I can't see the Vike's passing on AP.

[AtlPackFan]

NFLN is saying it's Peterson

[BallHawk]

It's Peterson.

Good.

[Brando19]

Minnesota took Peterson!

[swede]

I hope he enjoys many weeks of happiness playing for Minnesota.

[Rastak]

Adrian Peterson
RB | (6'1", 217, 4.4) | OKLAHOMA

Scouts Grade: 98



Strengths: Possesses an outstanding combination of size, power and speed. Shows a great deal of competitiveness and toughness as a runner. Extremely instinctive as a runner. Shows excellent vision and patience. Runs with ideal balance and body control. Makes quick cuts and shows very good initial burst off his plant foot. He is an upright runner but he also knows when to lower his shoulder for the most part. Rare in terms of his ability to gain yards after contact. He is a punishing back that will wear a defense down with 25-35 carries, and he seems to improve as the game wears on. He shows the initial burst and speed to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. He continues to improve as a route runner. He has displayed soft hands as a receiver and has upside in that facet of the game. He also shows the size, strength and competitiveness to develop into a solid pass blocker with improved technique and more attention to detail.

Weaknesses: Durability is the biggest concern. He has been limited by injuries in each of his three collegiate seasons, yet he also has lots of mileage on his legs with 728 carries in the 30 games played to date. He will enter the NFL having already suffered injuries to his shoulder, ankle and collarbone. He is an upright runner that loses some power because he fails to consistently run with good pad-level. He's not overly elusive and won't make many defenders miss in space. He lacks ideal experience in the passing game. Will need polishing as a route runner and as a blocker.

Overall: Peterson started eight of 13 games played as a true freshman in 2004, when he rushed for 1,925 yards and 15 touchdowns on 339 carries. He also caught five passes for 12 yards that season. He was suspended for two days during 2005 spring practice and did not start vs. UCLA because he missed classes. As a sophomore in 2005, Peterson started eight of 11 games played (missed Baylor and parts of three other games with ankle sprain), and finished with 1,108 yards and 14 TD's on 220 carries, and caught nine passes for 50 yards. A broken collarbone (Iowa State 10/14) forced him to miss seven games in 2006. For the season he rushed 188 times for 1,012 yards (5.4 average) and 12 touchdowns and also caught 10 passes for 136 yards and one touchdown, earning him a first team All-Big 12 selection. On a side note: His father was in prison from when Peterson was in middle school until October of 2006.
Durability is the biggest knock on Peterson. Otherwise, he's a complete prospect with special physical skills and competitiveness. When healthy, Peterson displays an outstanding combination of size, vision, instincts, burst and power as a runner. Also, while his receptions were limited in college, he displays soft hands and lots of potential in that department. Overall, Peterson is by far the best running back in the 2007 class and he ranks as one of the top-five prospects regardless of position.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[FritzDontBlitz]

the tavaris jackson era continues in minnesota :shock:

[BallHawk]

They're gonna be partying on Minnatonka tonight!

[MadtownPacker]

OK, the commish better rebreak AP's collarbone on the podium to get the healing process started!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[GoPackGo]

peterson is scary when healthy

[Reggie 92]

AP= The enemy

He's delicate and has taken a lot of punishment in college. But an explosive playmaker nonetheless.

[Rastak]

OK, the commish better rebreak AP's collarbone on the podium to get the healing process started!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


He who laughs last laughs best Mad! Let him sit for a year, heal up then kick ass. Chester can carry the load next year in Chilly Kickass offense.... :wink:


I like the pick.

[Brando19]

Quinn will be a dolphin.

[BallHawk]

Who is it here for Atlanta?

Anderson? Grubbs? Okoye?

[Rastak]

Quinn will be a dolphin.


Yup, and Culpepper will be unemployed.

[GoPackGo]

Quinn will be a dolphin.

thats a good place for him

[ahaha]

Two explosive offensive weapons added to the NFC North. This has me uneasy.

[FritzDontBlitz]

an injury prone rb is drafted by minnesota. i wonder what kind of shelf life he'll have after facing urlacher and aj twice a year?

[Reggie 92]

Buffalo will probably take Quinn if the 'Phins don't

[swede]

Now, now. Robert Smith held up pretty good, sort of.

[Brando19]

The Falcons should take Okoye. MY 1,000 POST!!!!! :D

[Rastak]

Who is it here for Atlanta?

Anderson? Grubbs? Okoye?


Anderson would be a good pick. They should take Quinn, make Vick a running back until his signing bonus doesn't kill them then cut his ass.

[BallHawk]

Buffalo will probably take Quinn if the 'Phins don't

I think they're satisfied with Losman.

[AtlPackFan]

The Falcons should take Okoye. MY 1,000 POST!!!!! :D
That is what I was thinking.

[MJZiggy]

I hope he enjoys many weeks of happiness playing for Minnesota.

Hahahahaha

[Tarlam!]

Man, what a draft!

I had expected two trades by now!

[GoPackGo]

Does anyone know of a website that has a draft tracker with an autoumatic update?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

with the 8th pick, the Falcons select Jamaal Anderson

[Rastak]

Does anyone know of a website that has a draft tracker with an autoumatic update?


ESPN has a draft tracker java applet.

[BallHawk]

Does anyone know of a website that has a draft tracker with an autoumatic update?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/round/round1

[gbgary]

Man, what a draft!

I had expected two trades by now!

early in the first round? it costs teams too much now days.

[GoPackGo]

Does anyone know of a website that has a draft tracker with an autoumatic update?


ESPN has a draft tracker java applet.

thanks

[BallHawk]

Quinn to Chambers could be a great duo.

[Rastak]

Harvey's wife must have woken up....... :o

[MadtownPacker]

Let play "paper, rock, scissor" for AP's collarbone!
http://www.packerrats.com/gallery/lbers.jpg

[Rastak]

Not a bad pick.....Anderson to Atlanta.....



Jamaal Anderson
DE | (6'5", 288, 4.75) | ARKANSAS

Scouts Grade: 95


Strengths: Possesses outstanding size and good straight-line speed for such a big defensive end. Is tall with great weight distribution, long arms and big hands. Displays good lower body strength and upper body power. Is able to jar offensive linemen with initial punch. Bats down a lot of passes with his long arms. Plays with a high motor and is relentless as a pass rusher. He has enough size and strength to effectively hold his ground when teams run at him, so long as he plays with good leverage. He pursues hard from the backside in run-support and he is a powerful tackler.

Weaknesses: Not overly fluid as an athlete and struggles to redirect. Anticipation skills are inconsistent and he gets too many late jumps off the snap of the ball. Fires out of his stance too high at times and must learn to play with better leverage. Needs to do a better job of using his hands to get off blocks. He will struggle to disengage quickly enough versus the run. Limited experience; he was only a starter for a year and a half at Arkansas before leaving early.

Overall: Anderson saw action in all 11 games in 2004 as a true freshman off the bench and on special teams recording 18 total tackles, two tackles for loss, and one blocked punt. In 2005, he once again played in all 11 games but received five starts to end the year after Anthony Brown was injured and registered 47 total tackles including 10.5 for loss, 5.5 sacks, and two forced fumbles. Anderson then started all 14 games during the 2006 season amassing 65 total tackles, 19.5 tackles for loss, 13.5 sacks, and one forced fumble gaining First Team All-SEC recognition.
Anderson possesses a rare combination of size, straight-line burst and power. The good news and bad news with Anderson is that he's still relatively raw. While he may not be ready to contribute as an every-down player as a rookie, he displays the physical tools to develop into an upper-echelon starter if he continues to progress at the next level. Anderson should be one of the top-three defensive ends selected in 2007-- most likely in the mid- first round range.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[esoxx]

Damn...

The NFC North just got a lot more talented with Calvin Jackson & Adrian Peterson. That's going to be a bitch to handle those two four times a year.

TT needs a stellar draft to keep up w/ this instant talent upgrade in Det & Minn. Pressure's on...

[TennesseePackerBacker]

with the 8th pick, the Falcons select Jamaal Anderson

I really should have done a draft mockery, now I predict that I won't hit another prediction.

[AtlPackFan]

with the 8th pick, the Falcons select Jamaal Anderson

Nice call!!!

[Bretsky]

who is next ? Has to be Quinn I'd think

[Rastak]

Fins gotta take Quinn....they have to.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

more common sense than anything, Kerney was a pretty big factor in that pick

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Fins gotta take Quinn....they have to.

[MJZiggy]

The Falcons should take Okoye. MY 1,000 POST!!!!! :D

Congratulations. Nice job.

[pacfan]

nobody wants to be A-rod, Quinn being interviewed on NFLN

[Rastak]

nobody wants to be A-rod, Quinn being interviewed on NFLN


That would suck, that dude sat there for a LONG time by himself.

[AtlPackFan]

Damn...

The NFC North just got a lot more talented with Calvin Jackson & Adrian Peterson. That's going to be a bitch to handle those two four times a year.

TT needs a stellar draft to keep up w/ this instant talent upgrade in Det & Minn. Pressure's on...


You think this makes him lean defense more???

[MadtownPacker]

Harvey's wife must have woken up....... :o
HW - "Yes dear, Im getting off PackerRats and makng your lunch now dear but can't I finish fighting with Rastak..."

Mrs HW - "NO!!"


White boys, the best husband a chick can ask for! :lol: :lol:

[motife]

My WORSE nightmare is that Brady Quinn is available with the 16th pick.

[Rastak]

Harvey's wife must have woken up....... :o
HW - "Yes dear, Im getting off PackerRats and makng your lunch now dear but can't I finish fighting with Rastak..."

Mrs HW - "NO!!"


White boys, the best husband a chick can ask for! :lol: :lol:


You're a funny dude Mad.....you might even be right!

[AtlPackFan]

more common sense than anything, Kerney was a pretty big factor in that pick
Well that explains why I got it wrong... :oops: :D

[Rastak]

My WORSE nightmare is that Brady Quinn is available with the 16th pick.


That isn't going to happen in a million years. I think you're ok.


edit: WOW, Schefter indicated he thought if the Fins pass he may fall to 14 or 17......

[esoxx]

Damn...

The NFC North just got a lot more talented with Calvin Jackson & Adrian Peterson. That's going to be a bitch to handle those two four times a year.

TT needs a stellar draft to keep up w/ this instant talent upgrade in Det & Minn. Pressure's on...


You think this makes him lean defense more???

TT's a best player guy so that's his pick in round 1. But there can be no mistaking the fact that having CJ run loose in a Manual backed secondary will have devastating consequences. I don't see Al matching up well either.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Damn...

The NFC North just got a lot more talented with Calvin Jackson & Adrian Peterson. That's going to be a bitch to handle those two four times a year.

TT needs a stellar draft to keep up w/ this instant talent upgrade in Det & Minn. Pressure's on...


You think this makes him lean defense more???

exactly, TT since day 1 has started building a strong defensive foundation and it'll continue today

[MadtownPacker]

Quinn looks like he is gonna puke.

If Miami doesnt take him is he gonna drop out of the top 20?

[Brando19]

The Falcons should take Okoye. MY 1,000 POST!!!!! :D

Congratulations. Nice job.

Thanks!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

more common sense than anything, Kerney was a pretty big factor in that pick
Well that explains why I got it wrong... :oops: :D


:lol: after I finish this left-handed cig I'll be in the same boat :wink:

[Reggie 92]

Willis, Okoye, or Carriker...I'm hoping one of these guys falls to 16

[Rastak]

Willis, Okoye, or Carriker...I'm hoping one of these guys falls to 16


I bet you would...those would be very good picks at 16.

[AtlPackFan]

more common sense than anything, Kerney was a pretty big factor in that pick
Well that explains why I got it wrong... :oops: :D


:lol: after I finish this left-handed cig I'll be in the same boat :wink:

In a previous life (college) I knew that left-handed cig! :shock:

[BallHawk]

WOW!!!!

[Brando19]

WTF!!!! GINN?!?!?

[Reggie 92]

WTF!!!!!

[AtlPackFan]

GINN???

[Brando19]

PLEASE DONT LET HIM FALL TO THE PACK!!!!!

[Rastak]

WOW, Ted Ginn Jr......what a bunch of dopes......



Ted Ginn Jr.
WR | (5'11", 178, 4.35) | OHIO STATE

Scouts Grade: 93



Strengths: Possesses world-class speed. His initial burst is exceptional and very few defensive backs -- if any -- can keep pace with him in a sprint. He's at his best on vertical routes that give him time to get over the top of defenders in coverage. He also does well on quick-hitting throws and reverses that tend to maximize his acceleration in space. He flashes the ability to snatch the ball while still running on shorter routes, such as quick slants and "jailbreak" screens. He also does an above average job of tracking down the deep ball over his shoulder. He lacks ideal lateral quickness but what tends to go unnoticed is his ability to change directions subtly while still accelerating. He has become more adept at reading coverages and making himself available as a "hot" receiver. He has shown far more awareness as a junior than in the past.

Weaknesses: Is undersized. Possesses adequate height but is lean. Needs to get stronger. Not overly physical. Has never been adept at making the tough catch in traffic, particularly over the middle. He will get jammed at the line of scrimmage too frequently. Occasionally he will also drop a "catchable" pass because he's trying to get upfield without securing the ball first. While he's explosive in the open-field (after the catch and in the return game), he lacks exceptional lateral mobility to make many ankle-breaking, stop-on-a-dime type moves. He can still be too choppy getting in and out of breaks. He gets going so quickly that it becomes very difficult for him to make a sharp cut on an intermediate route without gearing down too much.

Overall: Ginn played in all 12 games with five starts as a true freshman in 2004 and made 25 receptions for 359 yards (14.4 average) and two touchdowns. In 2005, he started all 12 games and caught 51 passes for 803 yards (15.7 average) and four touchdowns. Over the course of the 2004 and 2005 seasons, Ginn also carried 25 times for 196 yards (7.8 average) and scored three touchdowns. Additionally, he has returned 40 punts for 634 yards (15.9 average) and five touchdowns and 20 kickoffs for 572 yards (28.6 average) and one more score. In 2006, he started all 13 games, and caught 59 passes for 781 yards (13.2 average) and nine touchdowns while being selected to the All-Big Ten second team. Ginn also added 706 yards and two touchdowns on 42 punt/kickoff returns.
Ginn's exceptional speed is his best asset. However, he must become stronger and more polished as a route runner in order to fit the mold as a true No. 1 receiver in the NFL. Otherwise, he may never be more than a speedy No. 2 receiver with return ability. With that in mind, Ginn grades out as a risky mid-first round pick whose value is driven up considerably due to his potential game-breaking skills as a return specialist.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[MadtownPacker]

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Homeboy is losing major $$$$$.

Maybe he better keep his pale ass honey.

[wist43]

WOW!!!!!!!!!

Talk about a major reach by the Dolphins...

Who's calling the shots down there now???

[ahaha]

Damn, I wanted the Pack to take him.

[Reggie 92]

Any chance Carolina or St. Louis takes Quinn?

[pacfan]

WOW!!!!

Ted Ginn???

[TennesseePackerBacker]

hmmm, Quinn a Texan? makes sense

[Brando19]

The Dolphins must be ready to trade for Green.

[BallHawk]

Mt. Kiper has erupted.

[Tarlam!]

Waht a FUCK.

I wanted Ginn!

[Rastak]

Damn, I wanted the Pack to take him.


Maybe at 16 that would work.....but at #9 with Quinn on the board?

[gbgary]

i love the ginn pick cuz dallas was hot for him. :D

[Rastak]

Mt. Kiper has erupted.


What's he saying? I have NFLN on.....

[Brando19]

I could see Quinn going to St Louis.

[motife]

my guess is Ted Ginn is at best a Desmond Howard.

[BallHawk]

Any chance Carolina or St. Louis takes Quinn?

There's a slight possibility with Carolina, but Carr is there and Delhomme still has a year or two.

This could be A-Rod 2004 all over again.

[cheesner]

GREAT PICK!

Not that Ginn will help Miami, but I didn't want the Packers to take him.

[BallHawk]

Mt. Kiper has erupted.


What's he saying? I have NFLN on.....

He was getting worked up and saying that the Dolphins had Quinn fall right into their lap and they let him pass. He said that it was a Marino like situation and they screwed it up.