Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Is Michael Griffin still available?

no, I hear cheering though

[Rastak]

Is Michael Griffin still available?



Nope.

[MadtownPacker]

hmmm a trade could be brewing
The only trade that would matter would be for Moss or Turner.

You called it!!

[packers11]

TT AT HIS BEST!!!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

well let's hope we made out like a bandit

[MasonCrosby]

and he flips it..

[Rastak]

Hmm, Jets trade up and Green Bay off the clock.....

[HarveyWallbangers]

I personally like Rice a lot, but Keyshawn said he's not that high on Rice. He likes some other WRs more. Shows what a crapshoot it is. IMHO, Rice was a good pick. Hopefully, I'm wrong--like I've been before. I'm the guy that wanted Chad Jackson over Greg Jennings last year.

[Bossman641]

What are we getting out of this trade, anyone figured it out yet?

[Rastak]

Harris to Jets....



David Harris
ILB | (6'2", 243, 4.59) | MICHIGAN

Scouts Grade: 88

Strengths: Possesses a good combination of height and bulk for the position. Extremely sound in terms of recognition skills and reading keys. He is a hard-hitter and reliable open-field tackler. He displays very good quickness and body control. Is fluid in his hips and shows quick change-of-direction skills for his size. Plays with a great motor. He is a reliable tackler in space and also displays a knack for forcing fumbles. He gets a deep drop in zone coverage and shows adequate quickness in that area of the game. Breaks on the ball in front of him quickly and displays the consistent ability to knock passes down at the last second.

Weaknesses: He plays faster than 40-time indicates but his lack of ideal top-end speed will be somewhat limiting at the next level. He has made huge strides in terms of technique but can still improve his hand usage and angles. He does not display great ball skills in coverage. Lacks great instincts as a pass rusher. Gets engulfed at the line of scrimmage too often and does not show the explosive strength to bounce off of blockers. Needs to continue to improve his upper body power.

Overall: Harris was redshirted in 2002. He appeared in two games in 2003 registering two tackles before suffering a season-ending knee injury against Houston (9/6). Harris saw action in seven games (one start) in 2004 at inside linebacker and on special teams making 10 tackles and one forced fumble. In 2005, he became a starter for the final 11 contests and recorded 88 total tackles, six tackles for loss, one sack, one fumble recovery, and two forced fumbles. In 2006 he started all 13 games and registered 103 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, four sacks, one interception, and one forced fumble.
A late-bloomer, Harris did not emerge as a starter until his junior season in 2005. We felt Harris was a bit of an underrated prospect heading into 2006 and he made even more strides as a senior. He lacks ideal fluidity and he still has room to improve in terms of his coverage skills. However, Harris is an instinctive defender with good size, strength, toughness and straight-line speed. In our opinion, Harris has enough potential to groom as a starter at MLB in a 4-3 scheme or ILB in a 3-4 scheme at the next level, which is why we grade him out as a second-round pick in 2007.



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[Brohm]

If it involves swapping second rounders thats a 16 pick differential. Hopefully TT gets a haul as well

[Brainerd]

Jets 2nd,3rd or 5th and 6th for Packers 2nd and 7th.

[SD GB fan]

sweet. extra 3rd sounds good.

[Fosco33]

47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

[packers11]

sweet. extra 3rd sounds good.

mmmmm randy moss :lol:

[TennesseePackerBacker]

doesn't sound like that great of a deal, AND ESPN STILL HASN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, man I'm getting tired of having no NFLN

[MadtownPacker]

sweet. extra 3rd sounds good.Use it for Moss!!

[Charles Woodson]

damnit i went to espn and saw we didnt have a 2nd and thought we had traded for Moss, you think TT uses the extra 3rd to get mosS?

[Jimx29]

sweet. extra 3rd sounds good.

mmmmm randy moss :lol:bingo

[packers11]

damnit i went to espn and saw we didnt have a 2nd and thought we had traded for Moss, you think TT uses the extra 3rd to get mosS?

thats what i was thinking too...

Pick up a RB with late second round...
Then cb with early third...
Moss for late third...

I would turn into a happy camper...

[Brainerd]

doesn't sound like that great of a deal, AND ESPN STILL HASN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, man I'm getting tired of having no NFLN

i got info from packers draft room. guy said 89th (5th) and was told that 89 is 3rd. He went to check. definately said 89.

[packers11]

Adam Schefter of NFLN says that the Lions will trade Josh McCown after drafting Drew Stanton.

wow... I HATE YOU LIONS!!!

[MadtownPacker]

TT wiped the Jets out of picks!!!!!! They only have the 7th left and I doubt they are gonna trade down from there!!

HAHAHAHHA That alone makes it worth it. Payback for the shutout you bastards!

[pittstang5]

anyone know the value...did we make out or did we get screwed

[Brainerd]

The draft room was informed of the trade. they had no clue. they are currently discussing whether it was a good trade. some guy said he loved it.

[Joemailman]

Packer Pro Shop has Justin Harrell jersey. #91 :D

[MadtownPacker]

This was a great deal. There will better lots of players and it looks like we might be seeing 10+ draft selectiosn again. Always nice to be able to have some many options.

[pbmax]

Packer trade:

To Jets: 47 + 235= 430+1.9 = 432

To Pack: 63+89+191= 276+145+16=437

[motife]

The Jets have been reckless trading away picks.

Shades of Mike Sherman.

[Fosco33]

anyone know the value...did we make out or did we get screwed

Gave up 431.9 for 437.

[pittstang5]

Packer trade:

To Jets: 47 + 235= 430+1.9 = 432

To Pack: 63+89+191= 276+145+16=437

About equal then...not bad, but I don't like moving down so damn far.

[Rastak]

To
Jacksonville


Justin Durant
OLB | (6'0", 230, 4.51) | HAMPTON

Scouts Grade: 79 Selected by: Jacksonville Jaguars
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 16(48)

Strengths: Athletic prospect with very good top-end speed. Generally reads keys quickly, has good initial quickness and can make plays at the line of scrimmage. Has good range and can prevent backs from turning the corner. Works to the whistle, can slip blocks in space and makes plays all over the field. Generally wraps up upon contact and is a powerful tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Gets good depth and can cover a lot of ground when asked to drop into zone coverage. Flashes the ability to change directions quickly, bursts out of cuts and shows above-average man-to-man cover skills. Though lacks ideal ball skills flashes the ability to make the big play in coverage and is a dangerous open field runner. Times blitzes well, takes the shortest path to the quarterback and closes fairly well. Has experience lining up on the inside and is somewhat versatile.

Weaknesses: Plays too high, lacks ideal lower body strength and gets driven back at times. Is a bit undersized, can get engulfed and is vulnerable to wearing down in an every-down role, especially when lines up on the inside. Doesn't play with enough of a mean streak, doesn't use hands well and takes too long to shed blocks. Plays with a narrow base and can get knocked to the ground. Played at a small school and there is some concern about ability to make jump to the NFL.

Overall: Durant appeared in eight contests as a true freshman in 2003, missed four games with a hand injury, and finished the year with 32 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he began a streak of three consecutive MEAC Defensive Player of the Year campaigns when he started 11 games (sat out Savannah State matchup to rest for playoffs) and recorded 99 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, five sacks, three interceptions (two returned for touchdowns), and one forced fumble. Durant then started all 12 games in 2005 amassing 124 total tackles, 15 tackles for loss, five sacks, two fumble recoveries, and one interception. He completed his collegiate career in 2006 with 98 total tackles, 13 tackles for loss, one sack, and one fumble recovery while playing in 11 of 12 games.
Durant lacks ideal size and he needs polishing as a run defender. There are also some concerns about his learning curve coming from the DI-AA level. However, he possesses the burst, athletic ability and top-end speed to develop into an excellent backup who contributes on special teams in the NFL. Durant is an underrated prospect with late-Day 1 or early-Day 2 value.



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[ny10804]

anyone know the value...did we make out or did we get screwed

47 = 430
235 = <2
(432)

63 = 276
89 = 145
191 = 15
(436)


Pretty equal value. My guess is TT picks up a RB at 63.

[Chubbyhubby]

Packers swap 2nds (68 overall) Packers get a 3rd and 6th Jets get 47 overall and a 7 round pick.

So as we stand now we have 2nd (68 overall) 2 3rd round picks 4th round pick 5th round pick 2 6 round picks and our 7th.

Not Bad!!

[b bulldog]

We needed to replace the pick we send to the Raiders for Moss

[OS PA]

47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

63 - 276
89 - 145
189 - 15.8

47 - 430
235 - 1

436 for 431 is what my draft chart is saying. So it's pretty much a wash. Hopefully the 2nd and 3rd will get us someone like Michael Bush and the best safety available.

[motife]

based on what some other teams are doing draftwise, particularly the Jets, we could do worse than Ted Thompson.

How would you like to have Marv Levy drafting for the Packers?

Had Justin Harrell played all year, he would have been a top 10 pick.

The way the Packers rotate Defensive linemen, they need as many good ones as they can get.

What I most like about Harrell is "he never takes a play off". That's Aaron Kampman, A.J. Hawk style.

After the first 7 or so players, there are no real standouts in this draft, but it has a lot of quality depth. Should be a lot of pleasant surprises to teams that have done their homework.

[SD GB fan]

jets had a strong draft last year. maybe they like it every other year?

[MadtownPacker]

47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

63 - 276
89 - 145
189 - 15.8

47 - 430
235 - 1

436 for 431 is what my draft chart is saying. So it's pretty much a wash. Hopefully the 2nd and 3rd will get us someone like Michael Bush and the best safety available.Thats why those points dont mean much. TT might have just clinched a good draft with players he is gonna get.

[Rastak]

Kenny Irons goes to Cincy.....


Kenny Irons
RB | (5'10", 203, 4.45) | AUBURN

Scouts Grade: 84


Round: 2




Strengths: A shifty downhill runner. He shows good initial quickness and burst through the hole. Is fast enough to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. Displays impressive body control and change-of-direction skills. His vision and patience as a runner are very good and should only improve with more experience. He reads blocks very well, particularly when working in I-formation behind a fullback. Shows a second gear in the open field and also make defenders miss with effective spin-move in space. Runs harder than "measurables" would indicate. Very competitive. Drives his legs after initial contact and will break lots of tackles with his lower-body strength. Shows a knack for falling forward at the end of runs. Has upside if his route-running skills improve with more experience. He gives a good effort and will get in position as a blocker in pass pro.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Possesses decent height and below average bulk. Needs to get bigger and stronger in order to carry a full load in the NFL. Runs a bit high at times. Does not show the size/strength to consistently run over defenders one-on-one in space. Durability is a concern, especially after nagging injuries limited his carries in 2006. Gives a good effort as a blocker but struggles to hold his ground and will get run over at times by bigger blitzing linebackers. Gets knocked back into the quarterback too frequently. His hands are inconsistent and he needs work in that department. Lacks ideal experience as a receiver and still needs work in terms of his recognition skills and overall route running.

Overall: Irons originally attended South Carolina and saw action as a true freshman in 2002 in nine games, making one start. He rushed for 201 yards on 47 carries (4.3 average) and caught four passes for 63 yards and one touchdown. In 2003, Irons played in only five games with one start. He tallied 51 yards on 19 carries and one touchdown on the ground with two catches for eight yards. Irons then transferred to Auburn and sat out the 2004 season. In 2005, Irons played in 12 games and made nine starts. He finished the year with team-high totals in carries (256), rushing yards (1,293), and rushing touchdowns (13) and averaged just over five yards per carry. He also caught 14 passes for 164 yards. Irons started 11 of 13 games in 2006, missing the Buffalo game with a sprained toe and ankle and the Tulane game with a gimpy ankle, and carried the ball 198 times for 893 yards (4.5 average) and four touchdowns and caught 10 passes for 78 yards.
Irons displays an impressive combination of power, vision and speed when healthy, and he proved capable of being Auburn's premier back in 2005. However, while he showed toughness in attempting to play through nagging injuries as a senior, his production tailed off considerably. Doubts regarding his ability to carry a fulltime load in the NFL have increased. As a result, Irons' stock has dipped and he likely will slip to the bottom-half of the second round.



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[Green Bud Packer]

47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

63 - 276
89 - 145
189 - 15.8

47 - 430
235 - 1

436 for 431 is what my draft chart is saying. So it's pretty much a wash. Hopefully the 2nd and 3rd will get us someone like Michael Bush and the best safety available.Thats why those points dont mean much. TT might have just clinched a good draft with players he is gonna get. right on mad. draft points are for the bean counters. what really counts is t.t. picked up an extra player. its not WHERE you pick em its WHO you pick.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Not a bad trade.

Maybe he wants Pittman or Bush and he thinks they will be their with the jets old 2nd. Also now we get 4 first day players. 8-)

[Rastak]

Titans grab Henry.....



Chris Henry
RB | (5'11", 230, 4.4) | ARIZONA

Scouts Grade: 75


Strengths: A big, strong back with lots of mileage left on his legs. Shows good initial quickness and burst through the hole. He possesses above-average straight-line speed for his size and can bounce some runs outside once he hits the second-level. He shows the ability to push the pile when he runs with good leverage and lowers his shoulder. He will bounce off of would-be tacklers and displays an effective stiff-arm. While he needs polishing in the passing game, he does display soft hands and the ability to adjust to the poorly thrown ball.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal starting experience; he was never the fulltime load-carrier in college. Not overly elusive and won't make many defenders miss in space. He is impatient; will run up the heels of his linemen and also looks to bounce plays outside too early. He is big and strong, but doesn't consistently run with good pad-level and takes too many shots to his body. He's not a great route runner and his pass-blocking technique is marginal. We also have concerns about his competitiveness after his decision to leave school rather than compete for the starting job at Arizona in 2007.

Overall: Henry appeared in two games in 2003 as a true freshman before injuring his leg and obtaining a medical redshirt. In 2004 he returned to appear in all 11 games (zero starts) and finished the season with 159 yards rushing and two touchdowns on 56 carries (2.8 average). Henry played in all 11 games again in 2005 (zero starts), rushing 34 times for 119 yards (3.5 average) and also contributed on special teams. Henry played in 11 of 12 games in 2006 (missed 9/16 vs. S.F.A for undisclosed reason), earned seven starts and finished with 165 carries for 581 yards (3.5 average) and seven touchdowns. Over the past three seasons he has caught 25 passes for 191 yards and one touchdown.
Henry's questionable decision to declare early for the draft was overshadowed by his stunning performance at the combine. The thickly-built running back blazed the fastest 40-yard dash time (4.40) at his position, while also impressing with his strength on the bench press (26 reps) and his explosiveness on the vertical jump (36"). While his inexperience is still glaring, Henry displays enough promising characteristics to warrant the gamble in the middle rounds of the 2007 draft.

[Packnut]

And the TT comedy show continues..........

[hurleyfan]

WR Smith still there.... FB from Rutgers still there right?

[Rastak]

WR Smith still there.... FB from Rutgers still there right?


Indeed.

[pittstang5]

yep

[hurleyfan]

WR Smith still there.... FB from Rutgers still there right?


Indeed.

Not bad options :lol:

[BallHawk]

Well, I'm back. I won 5 bucks from my Dad betting that by the time I got home TT would of traded our pick. :D

Well, M'boy Kenny Irons is gone.

I want Pittman!

[Rastak]

WR Smith still there.... FB from Rutgers still there right?


Indeed.



Not bad options :lol:


Again,,,indeed.... :D

[BallHawk]

There goes Smith.

[hurleyfan]

WR Smith still there.... FB from Rutgers still there right?


Indeed.

Not bad options :lol:

Fvck, there goes Smith!

[motife]

Thompson got mercilessly TRASHED in the national media and local fan base last year when he picked 2 "unknowns" in the 2nd round, Daryn Colledge from Boise State(??) with the 47th pick, and Greg Jennings from Western Michigan(??) with the 52nd.

The 2 were arguably among the best at their position last year on the all rookie team.

[Rastak]

Giants grab Smith...good pick....


Steve Smith
WR | (5'11", 197, 4.44) | USC

Scouts Grade: 87


Strengths: Is a polished and reliable possession receiver-type. Shows good initial burst off the line of scrimmage. Is very quick and shows burst out of his breaks to consistently separate from man-to-man coverage. A polished route runner -- is crisp and precise when getting in and out of breaks. He displays outstanding focus and soft hands. Will pluck on the run and gets upfield quickly after the catch. He can consistently catch over his head and away from his frame. Lacks ideal acceleration, but he's quick and shifty after the catch. Effort as a blocker is adequate. He typically gets good positioning and will work to sustain.

Weaknesses: Is undersized. Possesses just decent height and below average bulk. Lacks elite top-end speed. Will not be much of a vertical threat in the NFL and will struggle to run away from faster NFL defensive backs. Only time we've seen him struggle catching the football is when he's forced to reach down below the waist while on the move (dropped a very catchable pass in first quarter vs. Notre Dame in 2005). He lacks ideal size and strength as a blocker. Effort is adequate but not great. He can take better angles and improve his leverage in order to be more effective as a stalk blocker. Durability is also a minor concern. He's undersized and missed five games due to injury (broken left leg) in 2004.

Overall: Smith served as USC's third receiver as a true freshman in 2002 and appeared in 12 games. He ended the season with 17 receptions for 319 yards (18.8) and two touchdowns. In 2004, Smith played in eight games, made seven starts, and missed five games due do a broken leg. He caught 42 passes for 660 yards (15.7 average) and six touchdowns. Smith started eight of the 13 games he played in during the 2005 season, had 60 catches for 957 yards (15.9 average), and scored five touchdowns. He finished the 2006 season as a first team All-PAC 10 selection, playing in all 13 games, and catching 71 passes for 1,083 yards (15.3 average) and nine touchdowns.
Smith is underrated and has been overshadowed by all the star power surrounding him throughout the years at USC. He lacks the size of a No. 1 receiver in the NFL, which obviously places a lower ceiling on his draft potential. However, Smith possesses the instincts, quickness, speed, reliable hands and work ethic to emerge as a very good No. 2 receiver in the NFL, and he's polished enough to contribute immediately as a rookie. That's why, in our opinion, Smith is worthy of second-round consideration in the 2007 draft.



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[Bretsky]

I would have loved to get Jarrett or Rice in round two, but they were gone.
Not a bad deal to trade down; hopefully a RB TT really likes is there.

It seems like the 1-2 round WR talent is gone. That's why I figured it was Bowe or Meacham in round one

[Charles Woodson]

Well, I'm back. I won 5 bucks from my Dad betting that by the time I got home TT would of traded our pick. :D

Well, M'boy Kenny Irons is gone.

I want Pittman!

haha i actually logged on to see how pissed ud be that irons is gone :lol:

[OS PA]

Hello Moss!

[Rastak]

Wow.....Lions trade McClown and Williams to Raiders.....

[OS PA]

Raiders just traded for Mike Williams!

[Bretsky]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings

[pittstang5]

Mike williams and Josh McKown to Raiders for 4th..Moss has got to be on the move

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings

I agree :evil:

[Rastak]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

[BallHawk]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings

I agree.

There goes Leonard. Good.

[pittstang5]

AHHHHH Leonard gone

[Rastak]

Leonard to Rams....



Brian Leonard
FB | (6'1", 226, 4.52) | RUTGERS

Scouts Grade: 83


Strengths: A hybrid RB/FB type with the frame to add more bulk. He has proven capable of carrying a heavy workload when lined up in a one-back set. Possesses adequate initial quickness and doesn't waste a lot of motion in the backfield. Runs hard, shows very good lower body strength and excels at picking up yards after contact. Runs with good balance and bounces off arm tackles. Displays good agility for his size and he is a determined runner. Reads blocks fairly well, possesses adequate lateral mobility and flashes the ability to cutback. Rarely drops passes that should catch and can be productive after the catch. He shows great determination as a blocker. Can adjust to the moving target at the second level and shows good short-area power in that regard. He's a team player that has been willing to contribute in any way possible throughout his collegiate career. Excellent intangibles and work ethic.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal straight-line speed and second-gear as a fulltime running back. Not overly elusive and will not make many defenders miss in space. Doesn't have the burst to consistently turn the corner at the next level and isn't fast enough to outrun defenses when gets a seam. He currently lacks ideal size and natural strength as a fulltime lead-blocker type. Doesn't always play with great leverage and has some problems rooting linebackers out of the hole.

Overall: Leonard was redshirted in 2002. He played in all 12 of Rutgers' games in 2003, starting 10 contests and finishing that season averaging 4.1 yards per carry for a team-leading 880 yards with nine touchdowns. He also led the team in receptions (53) for a total of 488 yards and five receiving touchdowns that season. In 2004, Leonard started 10 games, missing the Syracuse game (10/2) due to injury, and again led his team in rushing with 732 rushing yards and seven rushing touchdowns while averaging 3.7 yards per carry. He caught more passes (61) for more yards (518) than any running back in the nation and recorded two receiving touchdowns. In 2005, Leonard started all 12 games, averaging 4.3 yards per carry for 740 yards and 11 touchdowns, while also catching a team-high 55 passes for 568 yards and six touchdowns. Leonard started all 13 games at fullback in 2006 but saw his numbers dip after Ray Rice exploded on the scene, rushing 93 times for 423 yards (4.5 average) and five touchdowns and catching 38 passes for 294 yards. He was named to the second team All-Big East squad and received the Draddy Trophy given to the National Scholar Athlete of the Year by the National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame.
Leonard does not possess the speed or explosiveness to line up as an every-down starting running back in the NFL. However, he projects to be a consistent contributor as a hybrid fullback/running back type for the right team -- somewhat in the mold of Greg Jones (Jaguars). Teams creative enough to maximize his versatility should deem Leonard worthy of second-round consideration.



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[SD GB fan]

anyone else think that steve smith sounds like greg jennings? polished, possession receiver.

[BallHawk]

AHHHHH Leonard gone

Le'Ron McClain, please, Ted. :worship:

[hurleyfan]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:

[Rastak]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:


No problem Hurl....I never say it but you can guess who my second favorite team is!

[Tony Oday]

so what we now trade our 2nd rounder for Michael Turner and our 3rd for Randy Moss? :)

[red]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings

i think our division has added some scary weapons

ap, CJ, rice, olsen

our d better be damn good, we're gonna need it

[hurleyfan]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:


No problem Hurl....I never say it but you can guess who my second favorite team is!

Da Bears??

[BallHawk]

Well, I'm back. I won 5 bucks from my Dad betting that by the time I got home TT would of traded our pick. :D

Well, M'boy Kenny Irons is gone.

I want Pittman!

haha i actually logged on to see how pissed ud be that irons is gone :lol:

I'm not pissed that we didn't get Irons. I don't get attached to guys because then you are overwhelmed with homerism. I really want Pittman, but if we don't get him, oh well.

[motife]

Thompson got mercilessly TRASHED in the national media and local fan base last year when he picked 2 "unknowns" in the 2nd round, Daryn Colledge from Boise State(??) with the 47th pick, and Greg Jennings from Western Michigan(??) with the 52nd.

The 2 were arguably among the best at their position last year on the all rookie team.

add to that Jason Spitz and Tony Moll, both high effort players who were remarkably stout and mature for their age, thrown into an NFL lineup.

Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Johnny Jolly, and Tyrone Culver all have promise too.

another quote I like about Justin Harrell. He's a "man's man". Like Spitz, Moll, and Colledge. Also, how Ted Thompson described Head Coach Mike McCarthy when he hired him. Seems like a pattern.

[BallHawk]

so what we now trade our 2nd rounder for Michael Turner and our 3rd for Randy Moss? :)

I wonder if the Chargers would take a 2nd and two 3rd for Turner? :?:

[Rastak]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:


No problem Hurl....I never say it but you can guess who my second favorite team is!

Da Bears??


Ummmm, nope.... :D

[SD GB fan]

i dunno about cory rodgers. the dude cant catch and is not on the team anymore...

[BallHawk]

Thompson got mercilessly TRASHED in the national media and local fan base last year when he picked 2 "unknowns" in the 2nd round, Daryn Colledge from Boise State(??) with the 47th pick, and Greg Jennings from Western Michigan(??) with the 52nd.

The 2 were arguably among the best at their position last year on the all rookie team.

add to that Jason Spitz and Tony Moll, both high effort players who were remarkably stout and mature for their age, thrown into an NFL lineup.

Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Johnny Jolly, and Tyrone Culver all have promise too.

Cory Rodgers is flipping Burgers at Wendys right about now. :D

[hurleyfan]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:


No problem Hurl....I never say it but you can guess who my second favorite team is!

You're smiling right :lol: :cry: :lol:

Da Bears??


Ummmm, nope.... :D

[Tony Oday]

so what we now trade our 2nd rounder for Michael Turner and our 3rd for Randy Moss? :)

I wonder if the Chargers would take a 2nd and two 3rd for Turner? :?:

They would take a 2nd I would think.

[OS PA]

Yay! It looks like if we're going to draft a running back next we'll get a good one. There are only three running backs who are graded; Brandon Jackson, Antonio Pittman, and Michael Bush. Tony Hunt from Penn State is an interesting prospect, but i'm guessing he'll be a 2nd day pick or late 3rd.

i'd be really excited to see Bush, as everyone would, but don't discount Jackson and Pittman. If there are Gods looking down on this whole thing then one of these three better be a Packer!

[motife]

Thompson got mercilessly TRASHED in the national media and local fan base last year when he picked 2 "unknowns" in the 2nd round, Daryn Colledge from Boise State(??) with the 47th pick, and Greg Jennings from Western Michigan(??) with the 52nd.

The 2 were arguably among the best at their position last year on the all rookie team.

add to that Jason Spitz and Tony Moll, both high effort players who were remarkably stout and mature for their age, thrown into an NFL lineup.

Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Johnny Jolly, and Tyrone Culver all have promise too.

Cory Rodgers is flipping Burgers at Wendys right about now. :D

I got him mixed up with Corey Holliday. Sorry. :oops:

[Bretsky]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

[Bretsky]

Brian Leonard is off the board

[Tony Oday]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

I want Michael Turner :)

[hurleyfan]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

The FB from Rutgers could be a nice addition,,, catches the ball, can block, and he runs like a "tail back"

[OS PA]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:


No problem Hurl....I never say it but you can guess who my second favorite team is!

Da Bears??


Ummmm, nope.... :D

"Who ever" plays the Vikes?

[Rastak]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

The FB from Rutgers could be a nice addition,,, catches the ball, can block, and he runs like a "tail back"


He's already gone....

[motife]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

The FB from Rutgers could be a nice addition,,, catches the ball, can block, and he runs like a "tail back"

is he nappy headed?

[pittstang5]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

The FB from Rutgers could be a nice addition,,, catches the ball, can block, and he runs like a "tail back"

He's gone - St. Louis

[Rastak]

IMO this is a great day of drafting for the Vikings


Not bad!

My second favorite team is "who ever" plays the Vikes!

Sorry Ras :lol:


No problem Hurl....I never say it but you can guess who my second favorite team is!

Da Bears??


Ummmm, nope.... :D

"Who ever" plays the Vikes?


Substitute Pack for Vikes..... :P

[SD GB fan]

im impressed with pittman. he may not be dynamic but hes what the ZBS is about. he has great vision and cuts. he probabaly wont outrun or outpower people but he will get yards in the ZBS.

[RashanGary]

thats what i was thinking too...

Pick up a RB with late second round...
Then cb with early third...
Moss for late third...

I would turn into a happy camper...

I don't mean to single you out but it amazes me how many people think Thompson is targeting a certain position. He doesn't do that. He takes the best guy. It mgiht be an offensive tackle.

[Rastak]

Eric Wright
CB | (5'10", 192, 4.36) | NEVADA LAS VEGAS

Scouts Grade: 88

Flags: (C: CHARACTER) Problems on and off the field(D: DURABILITY) Player that can't stay healthy Selected by: Cleveland Browns
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 21(53)

Strengths: Possesses good height and adequate bulk. Displays good upper-body power for his size. Shows good balance and burst getting in and out of his pedal. Is extremely fast and shows the ability to make up ground while the ball is in the air. Displays good quick-twitch athleticism and fluid hips. Can turn-and-run with faster receivers and has enough size to hold his own on an island. He shows closing burst when breaking on the underneath throw and he also displays above-average ball skills. He shows good burst and some wiggle with the ball in his hands. He has experience returning kicks and also played some offense at UNLV in 2006.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal recognition skills. Takes too many chances and is undisciplined. He gets caught peeking in the backfield and he gets burned too frequently for gambling. Not physical enough and doesn't show enough aggressiveness in run support. He avoids contact too often and he is a below-average open-field tackler. Comes with off-field character baggage. Transferred from USC to UNLV after he was arrested and charged on suspicion of rape. The charges were eventually dropped but authorities did find the drug ecstasy in his apartment, which he shared with a roommate, during a search.

Overall: Wright originally attended USC where he was redshirted in 2003. He then appeared in all 13 games (four starts) as a redshirt freshman in 2004, finishing with 33 total tackles, two sacks, two interceptions, six pass breakups, and one fumble recovery. Wright then transferred to UNLV and sat out the 2005 season in accordance with NCAA regulations. In 2006, he started nine contests (missed three due to a knee injury) and recorded 29 total tackles including 0.5 for loss, one interception, nine passes defended, and one forced fumble earning second team All-WAC honors. Wright also returned 18 kickoffs for 430 yards (23.9 average) and rushed twice for 36 yards during the 2006 season.
Wright is a smooth and confident cover corner with the size and elite speed to turn-and-run with most NFL receivers in man-coverage. He also has some value in the return game. While he makes big plays in coverage, he also takes too many risks that lead to big plays allowed and he isn't much for run support. Wright is talented enough to warrant consideration as high as the second round but his character and durability issues could cause him to slip. We think he's worth the risk in the second round.



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[Lurker64]

Dear god, is Cleveland going to have any picks left this year or next after the second round here?

[BooHoo]

Yes, TT could take 3 OTs in a row.

[hurleyfan]

I'm not really sure who I want in round two; maybe Pittman. We need some talent on offense though; somehow

The FB from Rutgers could be a nice addition,,, catches the ball, can block, and he runs like a "tail back"

He's gone - St. Louis

Sorry I missed it... trying to watch the Devils playoff game along with the draft..

[RashanGary]

Thompson got mercilessly TRASHED in the national media and local fan base last year when he picked 2 "unknowns" in the 2nd round, Daryn Colledge from Boise State(??) with the 47th pick, and Greg Jennings from Western Michigan(??) with the 52nd.

The 2 were arguably among the best at their position last year on the all rookie team.

That won't stop people from complaining.

[packers11]

Cleveland doesn't have to watch tomorrow... Well i'm kind of jealous I havent been outside today... :lol:

[Rastak]

Dear god, is Cleveland going to have any picks left this year or next after the second round here?

I was wondering the same thing....

[BallHawk]

im impressed with pittman. he may not be dynamic but hes what the ZBS is about. he has great vision and cuts. he probabaly wont outrun or outpower people but he will get yards in the ZBS.

He reminds me of Warrick Dunn.

[Joemailman]

Cleveland doesn't have to watch tomorrow... Well i'm kind of jealous I havent been outside today... :lol:

Maybe Joe Thomas invited them to go fishing.

[OS PA]

Substitute Pack for Vikes..... :P

Ahh.. So whoever the Pack plays. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[BallHawk]

KC selects Turk McBride.

I can see the nicknames from opposing teams now..... :D :wink:

[Rastak]

McBride to KC....



Turk McBride
DT | (6'2", 277, 4.81) | TENNESSEE

Scouts Grade: 82


Strengths: Possesses good height and the frame to add bulk. Displays very good initial quickness and has learned to fire out of his stance with much better leverage. He is at his best working as a three-technique or a shaded nose. Shows the ability to consistently penetrate the gap and disrupt in the backfield. Plays with a good motor and will give an effort in pursuit. Shows good change of direction skills and is at his best when on the move. Very adept on stunts and twists. Is quick enough to consistently gain penetration as a pass rusher. Is versatile due to experience as a defensive end, three-technique defensive tackle and shaded nose tackle at the collegiate level.

Weaknesses: Is vastly undersized. Does not possess the bulk or lower body strength to hold up physically as a fulltime defensive tackle in the NFL. He needs to be on the move to be effective. He plays with a narrow base and gets pushed around by bigger offensive linemen that are able to establish positioning. He struggles to get off of blocks at times and needs to do a better job with his hand usage. Works hard versus the double team but must learn more effective ways to split it. He gets knocked off his feet too frequently when trying to split the double-team. Must also improve his array of pass rush moves. He also had a history of nagging injuries that have caused him to miss time early in his collegiate career. Marginal score on the Wonderlic Test.

Overall: McBride saw limited action in eight games as a true freshman in 2003 and made one tackle. He played in 13 games (four starts) at defensive tackle and defensive end in 2004, finishing the year with 33 total tackles, eight tackles for loss, three sacks, two forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries. In 2005, McBride appeared in nine contests but missed the Mississippi and Memphis games with an ankle injury. For the season, he made 16 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, and 2.5 sacks. McBride started all 13 games in 2006, finishing with 68 total tackles, nine tackles for loss, one sack, and one forced fumble, garnering him Associated Press First Team All-SEC honors.
McBride entered his senior season with limited starting experience and a history of durability issues. However, he was asked to play a versatile role along the Vols' injury-riddled defensive front in 2006 and blossomed during the experience. While he still lacks ideal size and strength, McBride displays enough quickness, toughness and versatility to find a niche in the NFL as a swingman that can play end in a base 4-3 and then move inside to rush the quarterback on obvious passing downs. McBride has risen from a mid-round enigma to a possible second-round pick in the weak 2007 DT class, as a result.



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[Rastak]

Substitute Pack for Vikes..... :P

Ahh.. So whoever the Pack plays. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Sorry, but yes.


Sorry.....

[Tony Oday]

Substitute Pack for Vikes..... :P

Ahh.. So whoever the Pack plays. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Sorry, but yes.


Sorry.....

I almost believe you...

Rastak=Closet Packer Fan

[RashanGary]

WTF Ras!!

I was starting to like you :cry:

[BallHawk]

Holy Jesus. Is Brian Leonard Sean Salisbury's long-lost son? They look exactly alike! :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Scott Campbell]

Fins got John Beck. That's a good pick, he might be better than Quinn in the longrun.


Not one chance in a million. Beck is a bust.

[BallHawk]

Fins got John Beck. That's a good pick, he might be better than Quinn in the longrun.


Not one chance in a million. Beck is a bust.

Oh, c'mon, aren't you supposed to be the Polygamy Rat?

[hurleyfan]

Holy Jesus. Is Brian Leonard Sean Salisbury's long-lost son? They look exactly alike! :shock: :shock: :shock:

8-) 8-) 8-)

[RashanGary]

Not one chance in a million. Beck is a bust.

I don't think you've ever been so sure of anything :)

I almost sense sarcasm

[SD GB fan]

mcbride sounds too slow for DE, too small for DT. 3-4 defense?

[Rastak]

WTF Ras!!

I was starting to like you :cry:


I knew I should have shut the hell up.......


Oh, nevermind me. I didn't say anything when Brando and another dude were shitty to my team.....let's just have some fun with the draft....

[mngolf19]

WTF Ras!!

I was starting to like you :cry:


I knew I should have shut the hell up.......


Oh, nevermind me. I didn't say anything when Brando and another dude were shitty to my team.....let's just have some fun with the draft....

Good call.

[RashanGary]

The Vikes are by far the Packs biggest rival as of late. Just when the Bears got good we sucked but the Vikes and us seem to rise and fall together and it's always a battle.

[pbmax]

Rastak, I think you put up with more than your fair share here. You get a pass on the occasional Packer slam as far as I am concerned.

Especially when you have just repeated what someone said about the Vikings.




WTF Ras!!

I was starting to like you :cry:


I knew I should have shut the hell up.......


Oh, nevermind me. I didn't say anything when Brando and another dude were shitty to my team.....let's just have some fun with the draft....

[RashanGary]

The Raiders traded for Mike Williams from Detroit.

Makes you wonder if they are planning for Moss's departure

[Rastak]

The Vikes are by far the Packs biggest rival as of late. Just when the Bears got good we sucked but the Vikes and us seem to rise and fall together and it's always a battle.


Yea, I have to agree. There are plenty of reasons to admire the Packers franchise. I may not like them much but I do respect what they stand for....

[Rastak]

SEattle makes it's pick...



Josh Wilson
CB | (5'9", 189, 4.39) | MARYLAND

Scouts Grade: 83

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Seattle Seahawks
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 23(55)

Strengths: Shows a second gear when tracking the ball downfield and is fast enough to recover when gets caught out of position Shows excellent closing speed when coming forward and can cover a lot of ground quickly in coverage. Plays with a mean streak, fills hard when reads run and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Works to the whistle and has sideline-to-sideline range. Shows an adequate sense of timing and can get to the quarterback quickly when asked to blitz. Blocked three kicks at the collegiate level, is a dangerous kickoff return man and should make an immediate impact on special teams.

Weaknesses: While tough and doesn't shy away from contact, is undersized and could get pushed around at times. Gives receivers too much of a cushion and appears to have problems opening hips when forced to turn and run downfield. Footwork is inconsistent, doesn't stay low enough when backpedaling and can take too long to change directions. Doesn't use hands all that well and hasn't shown the ability to consistently slow down receivers at the line of scrimmage. Lacks ideal awareness and takes too long to recognize running plays. Gets engulfed by bigger receivers and takes too long to shed blocks when gets reached. Fails to wrap up upon contact at times and is an inconsistent open field tackler. Though an explosive open field runner that flashes big-play ability, doesn't have great hands.

Overall: Wilson appeared in all 11 games as a true freshman in 2003 collecting two total tackles. In 2004, he saw action in all 11 games (started the last four) and made 27 total tackles including two for loss, broke up two passes, and forced two fumbles. Wilson then started all 11 games in 2005 amassing 73 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, two sacks, one interception, eight pass breakups, two fumble recoveries, and two blocked kicks. In 2006, Wilson played in/started all 13 contests and recorded 55 total tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, two sacks, one interception, 12 pass breakups, and one blocked kick.
Wilson lacks prototypical size for an every-down corner and he still has room to improve on his footwork, but he more than makes up for it with rare speed and a physical style of play. If his technique progresses as expected, he should become a dependable starter. He also has extra value as a potential return specialist in the NFL. Wilson projects as a late-second or third round pick.



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[Rastak]

Crowder to the Broncos....



Tim Crowder
DE | (6'3", 272, 4.69) | TEXAS

Scouts Grade: 83


Strengths: Has bulked up and now possesses a very good combination of size and speed. Plays with a good motor, possesses adequate range and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Plays with good leverage and has the base to stack versus the run. Takes good angles to the ball, uses quick feet to make plays in space and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to knock the ball loose. He can be relentless as a pass rusher. Has adequate lower body strength and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Possesses good leaping ability, times jumps well and gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback. He has been durable and has proven he will play through pain throughout his career. While he dislocated three fingers in 2005, he played in every game. He's a dedicated worker off-the-field.

Weaknesses: He displays adequate but not great athletic ability. He struggled to generate consistent pass-rush pressure versus some of the top OT's he faced at the collegiate level. Doesn't always anticipate the snap well, appears a step slow at times and is inconsistent. While he has good upper body strength and extends arms once in position, he has some problems locating the ball carrier and takes too long to shed blocks at times. He can be inconsistent in terms of his ability to take on and disengage from blocks. He also can be overaggressive and will get caught too far upfield or inside.

Overall: Crowder played in all 13 games with nine starts as a true freshman in 2003 after stepping in for the starter who suffered a season ending injury. He finished his true freshman campaign with 35 total tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack, one interception, and two forced fumbles. In 2004, Crowder became the starter at left defensive end for all 12 games and recorded 47 total tackles, 10 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, one forced fumble, and one fumble recovery. He once again started every game (13) in 2005 and earned First Team All-Big 12 honors from the coaches after making 50 total tackles, nine tackles for loss, three sacks, one interception, and one forced fumble. Crowder started all 13 games during the 2006 season and made 59 tackles, 18 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, forced four fumbles, and recovered one fumble for a touchdown garnering him a consensus First Team All-Big 12 selection.
Crowder is inconsistent, he needs to improve his hand usage and his motor seems to run hot and cold. However, he has very good natural physical tools, including an ideal combination of size and speed. He displays the strength to develop into an effective run defender and the closing burst to make plays behind the line of scrimmage in the NFL -- versus the run and pass. As it stands right now, Crowder projects as a second round pick.



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[pbmax]

Only prediction of second Round:

Broncos take Ryan Kalil

[pbmax]

SO much for that, and I'm out of the prediction business.

[SD GB fan]

i wanna see josh wilson go against calvin johnson :D

[Bretsky]

The Raiders traded for Mike Williams from Detroit.

Makes you wonder if they are planning for Moss's departure


On the Packer flagship they wondered if the Green Bay pick was a sign as well and went as far as speculating whether a few DL might be involved in the trade talks

[Rastak]

SO much for that, and I'm out of the prediction business.


LOL, don't feel bad......who knows what'll happen next.

[pbmax]

I was cheating anyway, just read that rumor on PFT's Draft Blog :lol:

[hurleyfan]

The Raiders traded for Mike Williams from Detroit.

Makes you wonder if they are planning for Moss's departure


On the Packer flagship they wondered if the Green Bay pick was a sign as well and went as far as speculating whether a few DL might be involved in the trade talks

I wonder if there has been this much "planning / scheming" for Randy Moss??

[Rastak]

Eagles take....



Victor Abiamiri
DE | (6'4", 267, 4.8) | NOTRE DAME

Scouts Grade: 79 Selected by: Philadelphia Eagles
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 25(57)

Strengths: Outstanding physique. Is tall, well-built and chiseled. Still has enough room on his frame to add 10 more pounds in the future. Displays explosive upper body power. He has long arms and strong hands. He can knock OT's back on their heels with his initial pop (see: USC OT Winston Justice in first series of 2005 game). Is a fluid athlete with very good change-of-direction skills. Displays the athleticism to occasionally drop into coverage when asked. He has good initial burst and adequate top-end speed as an edge rusher. Is a powerful tackler that continues to improve in terms of his ability to wrap-up in the open field. He is a hard worker and he continues to improve with more experience.

Weaknesses: Possesses adequate but not great speed. He plays too high at times and needs to show more consistency when taking on blockers. He seems to lack ideal instincts and occasionally will take too long to find the ball. Needs to play with more consistent leverage and do a better job of using his hands to keep off blocks. Durability isn't a huge issue but he did miss 2005 spring drills after suffering a leg injury.

Overall: Abiamiri appeared in all 12 games (five starts) as a true freshman in 2003 and finished the year with 22 total tackles, four tackles for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he saw action in every game (12), started one contest (Ohio State), and recorded 15 total tackles, six tackles for loss, and two sacks. Abiamiri started all 12 contests in 2005 and made 46 total tackles, 15 tackles for loss, eight sacks, and one forced fumble. In 2006, Abiamiri started all 13 games giving him 25 straight starts to end his career. He finished the season with 43 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, and two forced fumbles.
Abiamiri steadily progressed throughout his career at Notre Dame. A situational pass rusher early on, he progressed to a fulltime starter's role as a junior in 2005 and had the best season of his career as a senior in 2006. He has upper-echelon natural tools and he looks the part of a potential Pro Bowler. The only thing he's missing physically is elite top-end speed. Also, while he was much more consistent as a senior, he still seems to lack ideal instincts. As a result, Abiamiri is a bit of a boom-or-bust prospect that should come off the 2007 draft board in the second-to-third round range.



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[RashanGary]

I heard it on the Radio too, B.

I don't want to give up any of our DL. We need a rotation of 4 DT's and 4 DE's. I wouldn't give up any of them. Acctually, I'd be happy if we draft another DE.

[Brainerd]

Michael Turner will be with the Chargers unless something different happens. -- Norv Turner

Lol.

[hurleyfan]

Michael Turner will be with the Chargers unless something different happens. -- Norv Turner

Lol.

That's for sure, they're not getting the 1st they were looking for

[pittstang5]

I heard it on the Radio too, B.

I don't want to give up any of our DL. We need a rotation of 4 DT's and 4 DE's. I wouldn't give up any of them. Acctually, I'd be happy if we draft another DE.

Well, with Harrel, Pickett, Jolly, Williams, cole and Jenkins (sometimes) - someone is could be odd man out. Cole is the only guy I wouldn't lose any sleep over losing.

[Bretsky]

I heard it on the Radio too, B.

I don't want to give up any of our DL. We need a rotation of 4 DT's and 4 DE's. I wouldn't give up any of them. Acctually, I'd be happy if we draft another DE.


As long as TT does not go into the season with the RB core we have. That would not be good for 2007

[RashanGary]

6 picks away. Less than an hour and we get to hear "WTF" over and over :)

[Rastak]

Lions are up......who do they grab?

[pbmax]

From PFT:

Adam Schefter confirms that the Pats are out of the running for receiver Randy Moss.

[Rastak]

Answer is here....


Ikaika Alma-Francis
DE | (6'5", 280, 4.77) | HAWAII

Scouts Grade: 77



Strengths: Has a quick first job, anticipates snap counts well and can disrupt running plays in the backfield. Gained substantial weight at the collegiate level and got far stouter at the point of attack. Shows good balance and rarely gets knocked to the ground. Plays with a non-stop motor and is relentless in pursuit. Moves well laterally and runs line stunts well. Times jumps well, has good leaping ability and does an adequate job of getting hands up when doesn't get to the passer. Though doesn't show a variety of pass rush moves at this point, flashes an effective swim move and is capable of redirecting inside after starting outside.

Weaknesses: Doesn't use hands well, lacks ideal upper body strength and can take too long to shed blocks. Takes too long to locate the ball carrier and lacks ideal awareness. Lacks elite lower body strength, plays too high and still gets driven back at times. Plays with a narrow base and has problems holding ground against double teams. Is undisciplined and can get caught out of position trying to avoid blockers. Doesn't always take sound angle to the quarterback and can get ridden past the pocket. Lacks ideal top-end speed and is going to have problems turning the corner at the NFL level. Suffered a pectoral injury during the Hula Bowl, which prevented him from working out at the combine.

Overall: Alma-Francis did not play football in high school, instead earning all-state accolades in basketball and volleyball while also letting in baseball. He arrived at Hawaii in 2002 and played for the basketball team but was not a member of the football squad. Alma-Francis joined the football team in 2003, saw limited action in six games, and recorded six tackles including one for loss, and recovered one fumble during his true freshman season. In 2004, Alma-Francis played in 10 contests (one start) registering 22 total tackles, two tackles for loss, and one blocked PAT. He took over as a starter at defensive end for all 12 games in 2005 amassing 49 total tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, five sacks, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery. In 2006, Alma-Francis became a first team All-WAC performer after playing in and starting 13 of 14 games (did not play 10/28 against Idaho) and making 39 total tackles including 10 for loss, four sacks, recovering three fumbles, and forcing one fumble. His father, Joseph Francis, played in the NFL.
Alma-Francis is a raw prospect with limited football experience but a lot of developmental upside. While he doesn't possess elite bulk or speed, Alma-Francis he is a tenacious defender with good size-potential and athleticism. He also plays with a great motor. Alma-Francis projects as a second-or-third round pick.



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[Bretsky]

6 picks away. Less than an hour and we get to hear "WTF" over and over :)


Maybe this time if the BPA is a QB TT will take him :lol: :lol: :wink:

[hurleyfan]

Lions are up......who do they grab?

from Hawaii?

[SD GB fan]

aloha. hello.. and good bye in a few seasons.

[Rastak]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

[pittstang5]

Rats...Francis went higher than I thought he'd go. He looked like a great prospect.

[RashanGary]

It's funny, I expected this year to be different. We all look back and see we hated one pick or liked another and over time we see that we don't really have much of a clue except for the guys we really watch like Chris Chambers or Joe Thomas or whoever your team is.....

Then this draft comes and I expect level heads because we learned from history that we just don't know and we got the same WTF!! response to the very first pick.

I love it. These threads will never get old. I laugh at how much I thought I knew last year and I'll laugh next year at how much I thought I knew this year.

[BallHawk]

From PFT:

Adam Schefter confirms that the Pats are out of the running for receiver Randy Moss.

That leaves us and these questions.

1. Does Moss want to be a Packer?
2. Will Davis get off his horse and realize he isn't getting top value in return?
3. Does TT want Moss?

[pbmax]

Yes, but if he wanted a third round pick, he need to move back enough to justify the pick AND find a partner.

[Brainerd]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Its TT. Nothing surprises me about him anymore. I'm now assuming he knows more than the rest of us. Do I have any other choice?

[Joemailman]

he apparently doesn't see much difference between 2nd and 3rd round in terms of talent.

[pittstang5]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yes

[Bretsky]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?


Nope; all the WR's I think he was interested in were gone as well as the TE

And he figured at worst he'd get a RB later on

Honestly nothing TT does surprises me

[SD GB fan]

TT only doesnt like to trade down in the 1st. but he did the same last year. i think he has a huge list of candidates for the 2nd and 3rd rounds so its okay if some players get drafted.

[RashanGary]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yeah..He must have felt there was a little drop and that a bunch of the guys were all the same. I did think it was strange though. Taht was a big drop. He couldnt' have had 20 guys all rated equally but you never know I guess.

[BallHawk]

6 picks away. Less than an hour and we get to hear "WTF" over and over :)


Maybe this time if the BPA is a QB TT will take him :lol: :lol: :wink:

That's just sick. I don't even want to think about that.

[hurleyfan]

From PFT:

Adam Schefter confirms that the Pats are out of the running for receiver Randy Moss.

That leaves us and these questions.

1. Does Moss want to be a Packer?
2. Will Davis get off his horse and realize he isn't getting top value in return?
3. Does TT want Moss?

4: what are the salary cap ramifications>??

[Joemailman]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

he apparently doesn't see much difference between 2nd and 3rd round in terms of talent.

[BallHawk]

he apparently doesn't see much difference between 2nd and 3rd round in terms of talent.

It's because from about pick 40 to pick 99 there isn't that much difference in talent.

[Rastak]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yeah..He must have felt there was a little drop and that a bunch of the guys were all the same. I did think it was strange though. Taht was a big drop. He couldnt' have had 20 guys all rated equally but you never know I guess.


I think you're right....that must have been his thought proccess....

[RashanGary]

I like Dan Bazuin from Central Michigan. He was one of the most productive DE's every year for the last 3 years.

[GoPackGo]

we need to go pittman or bush next

[BallHawk]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yeah..He must have felt there was a little drop and that a bunch of the guys were all the same. I did think it was strange though. Taht was a big drop. He couldnt' have had 20 guys all rated equally but you never know I guess.

I wonder what TT is like in the draft room? What I would pay to be a fly on the wall....

[BallHawk]

we need to go pittman or bush next

Pittman would fit the scheme perfectly.

[Rastak]

Lions take....



Ryan Kalil
OC | (6'2", 299, 4.96) | USC

Scouts Grade: 90

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Carolina Panthers
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 27(59)

Strengths: An experienced and battle-tested center prospect with very good consistency. Does a good job with his first step and takes solid overall angles. Explodes out of his stance with good leverage and shows the initial pop to knock defenders back onto heels. He shows above average overall mobility. Is quick and mobile enough to consistently reach the second-level and hit the moving target in the running game. He is very effective on pulls, traps and screens. He displays good quickness in his short-set in pass pro. Plays under control, shows good balance, and is able to shuffle laterally with very good effectiveness. While he lacks ideal size, he has room on his frame to get bigger. He shows good upper body power for a smaller center. He has been extremely efficient at the highest collegiate level. Also has been a durable player throughout his career. A leader and hard worker with very good overall intangibles. Is technically sound.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal bulk and lower body strength. Needs to add some bulk to his frame and continue to improve his base. He will have some trouble anchoring versus bigger, stronger bull rushers. Almost always in position but will struggle to sustain blocks at times.

Overall: Kalil served as USC's backup center as a true freshman in 2003, seeing limited action in six games. He then started all 13 games at center during the 2004 season. Kalil once again started every game (13) for the Trojan's in 2005 and was named to the All-Pac-Ten First Team. In 2006 Kalil was a unanimous All-Pac 10 first team selection after starting every game (13) for the third straight season.
Kalil emerged as one of the most efficient and consistent centers in the nation over the course of his first two seasons (2004-'05) as a fulltime starter at USC -- and he took his game to the next level as a senior in 2006. His lack of ideal size and strength are obviously somewhat concerning, but he continues to add bulk to his frame and he proved during postseason workouts that he can maintain his quickness with additional weight. In our opinion, Kalil is the most complete center prospect in the 2007 NFL draft class. He is a proven commodity with great intangibles and enough upside to warrant first-round consideration.



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[Bretsky]

OK anybody want to throw names out

Bush ?
Pittman ?
Patrick ? (I think this is too high for him)


I think I'd go for Bush

[hurleyfan]

we need to go pittman or bush next

Pittman would fit the scheme perfectly.

Bush would be a good fit also, more a power guy

[RashanGary]

B,

If we take a QB with a high second I think I'll say WTF...

I'll hold out some jugement but QB is the one position I'm not ready to accept with a 1st day pick.

[Brainerd]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yeah..He must have felt there was a little drop and that a bunch of the guys were all the same. I did think it was strange though. Taht was a big drop. He couldnt' have had 20 guys all rated equally but you never know I guess.

I wonder what TT is like in the draft room? What I would pay to be a fly on the wall....

I've been watching the feed from the draft room. TT isn't there. He sends some guy in every once in awhile to inform the room what he is doing.

[mngolf19]

B,

If we take a QB with a high second I think I'll say WTF...

I'll hold out some jugement but QB is the one position I'm not ready to accept with a 1st day pick.

How about Punter? :wink:

[RashanGary]

Who was the Packers scout from Tennessee? Was that REggie McKenzie?

He was the guy Thompson credited with the Harrell rating. He said that he had a lot of trusted contacts at Tennessee and they really endorsed Harrell. It sounded like it was a close eough relationship where the Tennessee guys wouldn't have just hyped up their guy. I don't know the exact details though. I would like to hear more on that.

[RashanGary]

How about Punter? :wink:

Hey, don't bring back memories of the nightmare that is Mike Sherman.

[BallHawk]

OK anybody want to throw names out

Bush ?
Pittman ?
Patrick ? (I think this is too high for him)


I think I'd go for Bush

I'd go Pittman. Bush is very intriguing, though. I'd be fine with him.

Patrick can be had in the 3rd.

[mngolf19]

I see Kiper has a Kicker as one of his best still available. Who will take him and when?

[Rastak]

Fins take...


Samson Satele
OC | (6'2", 300, 5.24) | HAWAII

Scouts Grade: 77 Selected by: Miami Dolphins
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 28(60)


Strengths: An experienced offensive lineman with some versatility. He has spent time at tackle, guard and center during his collegiate career. At his best in pass pro. Plays with very good balance and leverage. Shows excellent awareness and is consistently effective picking up blitzes and stunts. Displays good quickness in the short-area. Is feisty and plays with a mean streak. He shows some upper body power. Is a natural knee-bender with a quick set in pass pro. Can mirror-and-slide effectively in pass pro.

Weaknesses: Is thickly built but not massive. Height is adequate but not good. He's squatty with shorter than ideal arms. Weight can fluctuate too much and he needs to do a better job of keeping healthy weight on his body. He comes from a pass-happy spread offensive attack at Hawaii and will need to make a significant transition to a pro-style scheme in the NFL. He is quicker than fast. Lacks ideal speed working as a downfield blocker. He lacks an ideal base and will have some trouble generating a surge versus massive two-gap defensive linemen.

Overall: Satale was redshirted in 2002. In 2003, he started all 14 games for the Warriors, opening the season at left tackle and then playing left guard for the final 13 contests. Satale again started every game (13) in 2004, playing both left guard (10 games) and center (3 games). With 12 more starts as a junior in 2005, Satele increased his consecutive starts tally to 39. He surrendered just two sacks in 578 passing attempts in 2005, when he earned first team All-WAC honors. In 2006 Satele started all 14 games at center, ending his career with 53 consecutive starts, and earned his second straight first team All-WAC selection.
Satele is a squatty center prospect with good short-area quickness. He has a strong lower body for his size and he has great experience and awareness in pass pro. While thickly built, Satele does not possess massive size to engulf bigger two-gap NT's in the NFL. He comes from a pass-heavy offense in college, which could set him back when transitioning to a more balanced, pro-style scheme in the NFL. He also lacks ideal mobility and experience as a run blocker. In our opinion, Satele is a bit of a project but he has enough upside to warrant consideration late on Day 1.



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[Joemailman]

Pittman would make sense here. Not bad value at end of 2nd round.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

What about Arron Rouse?

[BallHawk]

Lions trade up, again!

Somebody get the Bourbon away from Millen!

[SD GB fan]

sounds like the dolphins just got robbed by carolina one spot ahead.

[Bretsky]

TT definitely seemed to cherish the guy; he noted he had offers to trade down but he was concerned it was too far to get him. He probably had him tier'd higher than the other picks out there.

[Rastak]

Lions on the clock after a trade.....

[Tony Oday]

I think we go CB :(

[Rastak]

Lions take....


Gerald Alexander
S | (6'0", 210, 4.51) | BOISE STATE

Scouts Grade: 61
View by: Round | Player | NCAA School | Position | NFL Team | Flag | All

Strengths: Very smooth and fluid athlete. Possesses adequate height and can add some bulk to his frame. Shows good balance and leverage in his backpedal and also displays good burst coming out of it. He is naturally athletic with smooth hips and good change-of-direction skills for a safety. His recognition skills and instincts in coverage are above average. Displays adequate ball skills. Fills hard versus the run and is strong for his size.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size and strength. Fills hard but struggles to get off blocks at times and can get run over by bigger ball carriers. Angles of pursuit must continue to improve and he needs to learn to wrap up more consistently as an open-field tackler. He possesses adequate but not great speed and does not show the acceleration to make up for false steps.

Overall: Alexander was redshirted in 2002. He saw action in all 14 games as the nickel cornerback and on special teams in 2003, recording 20 total tackles including one for loss, two pass breakups, and one interception. In 2004, Alexander broke into the starting lineup for all 12 games and collected 53 total tackles, 2.5 tackles for loss, five interceptions, eight pass breakups, and one blocked field goal attempt. He started all 13 contests in 2005 amassing 50 total tackles, two tackles for loss, one interception, and 13 pass breakups. Alexander moved to safety for spring practice in 2006 and then started all 13 games there posting 38 total tackles, one tackle for loss, two interceptions, four pass breakups, six passes defended, one fumble recovery, and one forced fumble.
Alexander made a successful transition at Boise State from cornerback to safety, where his skills are better suited for the NFL game. He lacks ideal size and elite speed, but he gives a great effort in run support and he is quick, fluid and instinctive in zone coverage. Alexander shows enough potential to contribute as a sub-package defensive back and he should be able to cover kicks on special teams in the NFL, which is why he's worth considering in the middle rounds of the 2007 draft.



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[RashanGary]

I've been watching the feed from the draft room. TT isn't there. He sends some guy in every once in awhile to inform the room what he is doing.

That is funny. I'm watching it now too. They have audio in there so it can't be the acctuall war room. I think Ted's closest scouts are with Ted in a different room. I did hear that a leak was discovered so maybe anyone who's not trusted is not allowed near the real draft board. This is a complete guess by the way.

[Bretsky]

Wonder who the Lions want ? Maybe they want Bush too

[hurleyfan]

I think we go CB :(

Running back?

[SD GB fan]

uhh is the NFL gonna die next season? Lion sure seem to think so.

[Joemailman]

Will Bears take Pittman to replace Thomas Jones?

[BallHawk]

Pittman or Bush. Please!

He won't do it, though. It's too logical.

[woodbuck27]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yes

I'll double up on that.

[BallHawk]

uhh is the NFL gonna die next season? Lion sure seem to think so.

LOL. :D :D :D

[BallHawk]

Will Bears take Pittman to replace Thomas Jones?

No. They'll take him just to piss us off.

[Tony Oday]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yes

I'll double up on that.


think of all the money we will save on the contract! :) lol

[Bretsky]

The Best Player Available is probably the Stanford QB here :lol:

[RashanGary]

I'm gonna guess DE or or DB just because they say it's deep in those areas.

[Brainerd]

I've been watching the feed from the draft room. TT isn't there. He sends some guy in every once in awhile to inform the room what he is doing.

That is funny. I'm watching it now too. They have audio in there so it can't be the acctuall war room. I think Ted's closest scouts are with Ted in a different room. I did hear that a leak was discovered so maybe anyone who's not trusted is not allowed near the real draft board. This is a complete guess by the way.

You're right. My bad. Its the media room. Explains alot. I should be in bed.

[Tony Oday]

Maybe we will get lucky and see another trade so we can wait another couple of hours...

[Joemailman]

Thread count 1688 :glug:

[Rastak]

Hmmm, my guess.......

Moses or Bradley?

[BallHawk]

The Best Player Available is probably the Stanford QB here :lol:

Don't do this to me! You're making me nauseous. :x

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Pittman or Bush. Please!

He won't do it, though. It's too logical.

I have a feeling he goes defense again, Rouse or McCauley.

[mngolf19]

Maybe we will get lucky and see another trade so we can wait another couple of hours...

Going for 32 picks in the 7th round? :D

[SD GB fan]

Maybe we will get lucky and see another trade so we can wait another couple of hours...

thats always fun....its a good thing packer fans are so faithful. :roll:

[woodbuck27]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yeah..He must have felt there was a little drop and that a bunch of the guys were all the same. I did think it was strange though. Taht was a big drop. He couldnt' have had 20 guys all rated equally but you never know I guess.

I wonder what TT is like in the draft room? What I would pay to be a fly on the wall....

I've been watching the feed from the draft room. TT isn't there. He sends some guy in every once in awhile to inform the room what he is doing.

He"s afraid of getting hit. :)

[BallHawk]

Pittman or Bush. Please!

He won't do it, though. It's too logical.

I have a feeling he goes defense again, Rouse or McMcauley.

McCauley isn't a "packer person."

[RashanGary]

TT definitely seemed to cherish the guy; he noted he had offers to trade down but he was concerned it was too far to get him. He probably had him tier'd higher than the other picks out there.

I get that impression too based on the things Thompson said and how that trade happened right after us.

[Tony Oday]

And with the 63rd pick the Packers Trade for 14 7th rounders....

[pittstang5]

I'm gonna guess DE or or DB just because they say it's deep in those areas.

I agree -

I'm going out on a very long limb here......Quentin Moses

[motife]

Bob McGinn 4/24/07 :


A Journal Sentinel poll of 17 scouts asked each to rank his favorite defensive tackles on a 1-to-5 basis, with a first-place vote worth five points, a second worth four and so on.

The results weren't kind to Alan Branch, who finished third with 51 points behind Amobi Okoye (70) and Justin Harrell (58).

Following, in order, were Ray McDonald (35), Tank Tyler (25), Marcus Thomas (eight), Brandon Mebane (three), Kareem Brown (two), Tank McBride (two) and Paul Soliai (one).

[Tony Oday]

Maybe we will get lucky and see another trade so we can wait another couple of hours...

thats always fun....its a good thing packer fans are so faithful. :roll:

whoa there SD I am a die hard Packer fan Im just having a little fun at TTs expense :)

[mngolf19]

And with the 63rd pick the Packers Trade for 14 7th rounders....

Hey, what's the math on that one? :lol:

[Bretsky]

John Stocco; I can't be upset about this pick. I'm still numb from before.

I love Bush; does TT ?

[Joemailman]

CB Tanard Jackson is highest rated remaining at Sporting News

[woodbuck27]

I"m going for some serious beer. :)

What a disappointment that man is.

[Rastak]

Pittman or Bush. Please!

He won't do it, though. It's too logical.

I have a feeling he goes defense again, Rouse or McMcauley.

McCauley isn't a "packer person."


And Moss is?

[RashanGary]

McCauley isn't a "packer person."

McCauley isn't a football palyer.

[mngolf19]

John Stocco; I can't be upset about this pick. I'm still numb from before.

I love Bush; does TT ?

Depends on what kind you are talking about.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'm a bit surprised TT moved back so far in the second round,,,,anyone else feel the same?

Yes

I'll double up on that.

He knew he could drop back this far, pick up a 3rd, and still get his player. I'd say RB but who knows with TT.

[wist43]

Okay... just got in from work - so I'm going to post my reaction to the Harrell pick - retroactively...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????

Now TT is up next at 63... pretty sure if he tries hard enough he could succeed in getting himself booed all the way out of Lambeau!!! :) :) :)

[Bretsky]

DE off the board; both RB's are there for the Snapper if he chooses to bite

[SD GB fan]

Maybe we will get lucky and see another trade so we can wait another couple of hours...

thats always fun....its a good thing packer fans are so faithful. :roll:

whoa there SD I am a die hard Packer fan Im just having a little fun at TTs expense :)

haha i wasnt directing anything at you. im just kidding around. it can get frustrating though because the draft is such a long process and you see a lot of players pass by.

[BallHawk]

We have a shot at either RB.

[Tony Oday]

Okay... just got in from work - so I'm going to post my reaction to the Harrell pick - retroactively...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????

Now TT is up next at 63... pretty sure if he tries hard enough he could succeed in getting himself booed all the way out of Lambeau!!! :) :) :)

lol but with TTs luck Harell will get 7 sacks and be a stud run stuffer and we will all be loving him later :)

[hurleyfan]

We have a shot at either RB.

Has to be a RB right??

[SD GB fan]

c'mon. do it.

[AtlPackFan]

Okay... just got in from work - so I'm going to post my reaction to the Harrell pick - retroactively...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????

Now TT is up next at 63... pretty sure if he tries hard enough he could succeed in getting himself booed all the way out of Lambeau!!! :) :) :)

lol but with TTs luck Harell will get 7 sacks and be a stud run stuffer and we will all be loving him later :)

That's the thing with TT. As much as I have hated his picks at the time, they have - for the most part - worked out.

[BallHawk]

We have a shot at either RB.

Has to be a RB right??

With TT anything is possible.

[Rastak]

Bears take....



Dan Bazuin
DE | (6'2", 266, 4.77) | CENTRAL MICHIGAN

Scouts Grade: 65
View by: Round | Player | NCAA School | Position | NFL Team | Flag | All

Strengths: Shows good closing speed and is a big hitter that can jar the ball loose. Anticipates the snap well, possesses an explosive first step and makes it difficult for offensive linemen to get into position. Possesses good top-end speed and is capable of turning the corner. Has good athletic ability and can redirect inside after starting outside. Times jumps well and generally gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback. Appears comfortable in space, has the speed to develop decent underneath zone cover skills and could line up at linebacker in certain situations. Plays with a mean streak and possesses excellent upper body strength. Plays with a non-stop motor, shows adequate instincts and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Possesses good balance and rarely gets knocked to the ground.
*
Weaknesses: Possesses just adequate size, doesn't have the frame to add substantial bulk and is vulnerable to wearing down when teams consistently run at him. Doesn't have great lower body strength and is a liability as a run defender when working against powerful drive blockers. He needs to learn to use his hands better and not to let blockers get into his body as easily. Can be overaggressive and gets caught too far upfield at times. While extremely productive at the collegiate level, didn't play in one of the premiere conferences and there are some concerns about ability to produce working against a considerably higher level of competition.

Overall: Bazuin sat out the 2002 season as a redshirt. He then stepped right into the starting lineup at defensive end in 2003 for all 12 games, recorded 70 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, six sacks, two fumble recoveries, and one forced fumble. Bazuin started all 11 games in 2004 and finished the year with 50 total tackles, eight tackles for loss, three sacks, recovered one fumble, and blocked four kicks. In 2005, he once again started every game (11) and was named the MAC Defensive Player of the Year. He made 74 total tackles, led the nation with 26.5 tackles for loss, was second in the nation with 16 sacks, forced five fumbles, and recovered one fumble. In 2006, Bazuin started 13 of 14 games (missing Kentucky game because of injury) finishing with 67 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, four forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries , one returned for a touchdown.
Bazuin is a fierce, instinctive and speedy defensive end who dominated the mid-major level of competition throughout his collegiate career. He did not have his best showing as a senior but it must be taken into account that he was dealing with the loss of his brother, who passed away in the preseason, and he also was battling a lingering knee injury. When at his best, we believe Bazuin is a better prospect than former CMU player Jason Babin, who has not lived up to expectations as the Texans' second of two first round picks in 2003. Bazuin projects as an early second-day selection in the 2007 draft.



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[hurleyfan]

We have a shot at either RB.

Has to be a RB right??

With TT anything is possible.

BPA and for need?

Solve both at once?

[Rastak]

Pack on the clock....

[Tony Oday]

Cmon Chargers just accept the trade for this pick for Turner :)

[BallHawk]

It could be Charles Johnson.

No, it couldn't.

It could be Trent Edwards.

I hope not.

It could be Bush or Pittman.

Please, God!

[RashanGary]

What's up Wist...

I think you're going to like Harrell. Everythign we're finding out about the guy is positive. He's a beast at sheddign blocks. He's a hard nosed football player with a drive like no other.

He was the first person to be given Reggies # at Tennessee and according to UT officials he'll be the last to ever wear the #.

Reggie McKeinzie has some ties to Tennessee and he gets some reliable info according to Ted. They said the loved him and he is a worker. NOt only that but he's built like a brick shithouse and he's not a little pansie wearing skirts like the Packers of old.

I think you'll like him but that is just a guess based on what you don't like

[OS PA]

Ready to hear a name we've never heard of?

[motife]

with TTs luck Harell will get 7 sacks and be a stud run stuffer and we will all be loving him later :)

The Packers ranked 4th in the NFL, behind SD, Balt, and Miami, in QB Sacks in 2006.

The defensive line has been amazingly stout 2 years in a row.

The Packers like to do a lot of rotation in the middle, and want to have a LOT of good defensive linemen.

You can never go wrong solidifying the trenches.

[RashanGary]

CRAP!!

Chicago got Bazuin. I really liked him.

[BallHawk]

It's Brandon Jackson.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

wow...i'm going to go get drunk on that pick

[Tony Oday]

Brandon Jackson

[MadtownPacker]

The selection is.....
Brandon Jackson??

[hurleyfan]

WHO

[motife]

Ready to hear a name we've never heard of?

Daryn Colledge? Greg Jennings? Jason Spitz? Tony Moll?

wouldn't mind having another unknown like those guys.

[pacfan]

Brandon Jackson, RB Neb

[Rastak]

Brandon Jackson
RB | (5'9", 210, 4.54) | NEBRASKA

Scouts Grade: 77
View by: Round | Player | NCAA School | Position | NFL Team | Flag | All

Strengths: He's a shifty back with excellent balance and body control. Displays the ability to stop and start with great ease. Shows good vision and possesses the initial burst to quickly hit the crease he sees developing. Runs with outstanding pad-level and always seems to be under control. He is a slippery runner that doesn't seem to take a lot of big hits and elusive enough to consistently make defenders miss one-on-one in space. He shows good toughness as an inside runner and will keep his legs driving after contact. Also displays enough burst to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. He lacks elite speed but he does have a second-gear in the open-field and can beat some defensive backs in a foot race. He's a reliable underneath receiver and he's shifty and dangerous after the catch. He has been durable and he doesn't have much mileage on his legs.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal game experience and is a bit unproven. Has looked extremely promising in spurts but he has never proven capable of carrying a full load as the premier back. He still needs to get a bit bigger and stronger. He runs hard and shows some power but he's not the type that will run over defenders or push the pile much in short-yardage situations. He possesses adequate-to-good speed, but does not show elite second-gear in the open-field. He has room to improve as a route runner. While he has been reliable catching the ball, he has a tendency to let it get into his pads and needs to learn to catch with his hands far more frequently. Needs to improve his technique and awareness in pass pro. Also has had some fumbling issues in the past.

Overall: Jackson saw action in 10 of 11 games as a true freshman in 2004 and carried 85 times for 390 yards (4.6 average) with six touchdowns. In 2005, he played in nine of 12 contests (two starts; Wake Forest, Pitt) and gained just 52 yards on 18 carries (2.9 average). Jackson then started nine of 14 games in 2006, rushed 188 times for 989 yards (5.3 average) and eight touchdowns, adding 33 receptions for 313 yards and two more scores. Over the past three seasons, he also returned 32 kickoffs for 579 yards (18.1 average).
Jackson's biggest weakness is his lack of experience. He will need to improve his bulk and strength in order to hold up as a premier back in the NFL, and he also lacks elite top-end speed. However, Jackson is an instinctive, shifty and tough runner with the size-potential to emerge as a good starter in a zone-blocking scheme. In our opinion, Jackson is one of the more underrated prospects in the 2007 class and he could become a steal from the second-or-third round range of the 2007 draft.



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[b bulldog]

NEBRASKA rb WHOM i LIKE

[Joemailman]

I predicted packers would take this guy, but I thought It would be 3rd round.

[ND72]

Bradon Jackson...LOVE IT.

[pittstang5]

too high, imo

[packers11]

I was pulling for Bush :(

[Brainerd]

Ahman Green II ?

[BallHawk]

I have to say, I like the pick.