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  • #31
    Agree but I still state that Brett is one of the dumbest/greatest QB's of all-time.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
      Originally posted by gbgary


      yes.....Brett threw those balls...but when MM comes out after the game and admits they wanted to be real aggressive, with the play calling, you can see where Brett's mindset was. Brett's willingness to do what he's told, at his own peril, got him hurt and the team in a jam. when passing, the weakest links in the dallas defense are the safties and linebackers. they should have been the focus...not the corners. dallas blitzed and Brett had no protection. no protection because of the plays MM was calling. MM changed things when Rodgers came into the game and you know what happened. MM's game plan has to have the kinds of plays that will allow Brett/the Packers to succeed against high pressure defenses.
      Poor Brett, just does what he's told, can't make a decsions based on what's going on around him. Poor Brett. More than any other QB, he's been the victim of being told to do stupid things. He does have the interception record so he has to have had the worst coaches of any of the long term QB's, right? It's never Brett. It's always somebody else.

      Sad. Maybe Brett should start making decisions based on how the play unfolds like Brady.
      i guess i'm not making myself clear. brett is his own worst enemy sometimes. we all agree that he makes some idiotic passes and decisions. what i'm trying to say is, because of how he is, don't even call a play where throwing deep into triple coverage is even an option. keep some protection in for him. dink and dunk. control the ball.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by b bulldog
        Agree but I still state that Brett is one of the dumbest/greatest QB's of all-time.
        For the dumbest, he'll have to compete with Terry Bradshaw.
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        • #34
          How about that pass in the Philadephia playoff game. The long blooper when the Packers were in good shape to tie or win the game with plenty of time left on their last drive?

          Tom Brady like?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by motife
            How about that pass in the Philadephia playoff game. The long blooper when the Packers were in good shape to tie or win the game with plenty of time left on their last drive?

            Tom Brady like?
            You mean like the interception Brady threw into the end zone with a couple of minutes left on the clock in the SB against the Panthers?

            Or the one that ended his team's bid to represent the AFC in the Superbowl last year?
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            • #36
              I love Brett but he simply does make some real boneheaded throws like that Philly moonshot but you take the good with the bad with Brett. This is one of the main reasons why he'll never be the best QB of alltime because of his bad decision making. Terry Bradshaw and Brett are a like in many ways. Both guys would be great to sit down and have a beer with and both guys may be a.... when it comes to upstairs.
              My favorite saying from Brett Favre says it all, Brett was asked what games were his most memorable and he answered that his most memorable games are the ones he remembers most They play that line on TMJ a lot. Brett probably is the most exciting QB I've ever seen, you never know what your going to get in some big games.
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              • #37
                No, I think he was talking about the one he threw up for grabs in Philly, or maybe the ones he was throwing up for grabs in Dallas this year, or maybe the 6 he threw against the Rams, or maybe the 4 or so he threw against the Vikings, or maybe it was the bunch he threw against the Falcons in the playoffs, or maybe it was the ..................
                I love to compare Brady's meltdowns to brett's but that would be hilarious. If Brett had the Wr's Brady was throwing to last year when he threw that bad pass in Indy, everyone in here would be saying that he had no weapons so what was he supposed to do. With that being said, that was a bad throw and that was one of the reasons why the Pats lost the game.
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                • #38
                  Forgot to mention the bears game from this season, sorry
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                  • #39
                    Lets all just hope that Brett plays well in the playoffs and he may get a chance to play Brady and the Pats. I think the Colts and Jags have an excellent shot at knocking the Pats out.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by b bulldog
                      I think the Colts and Jags have an excellent shot at knocking the Pats out.
                      I honestly believe the Patriots won't make the Super Bowl. The pressure on them is going to be enormous, and the Jags and Colts are two very good football teams that can easily beat the Pats if they aren't on top of their game. Going through both of those teams, even with HFA, would not be easy.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by b bulldog
                        I love to compare Brady's meltdowns to brett's but that would be hilarious. If Brett had the Wr's Brady was throwing to last year when he threw that bad pass in Indy, everyone in here would be saying that he had no weapons so what was he supposed to do. With that being said, that was a bad throw and that was one of the reasons why the Pats lost the game.
                        Ahhhh, you see, now you've caught yourself in your own (il)logic.

                        The Pats lost that game because Belicheck's defense couldn't stop Addai and Brady's WRs couldn't shed coverage... giving him few options but to throw to guys who were covered.... Game over.

                        Did Belicheck haul Brady's ass through the fire and chastise him for making a bad decision? We'll never know. What we do know is that he went out and bought the best receivers money could buy, including (drumroll, please..) Randy Moss, the best WR ever to grace a football field, IMHO. He also brought in a great, run-stopping LB.

                        You see, Belicheck understands the game. He understands that when your team is overmatched and you ask your QB to win the game throwing to scrubs, you don't have much of a chance.

                        Sure, Favre does have brain-farts on occasion. But go ahead and believe that he is a "dumb" quarterback and that Brady would have helped Green Bay win more games given the same talent, defenses and coaches Favre has had. Now that would be hilarious discussion.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by motife
                          How about that pass in the Philadephia playoff game. The long blooper when the Packers were in good shape to tie or win the game with plenty of time left on their last drive?

                          Tom Brady like?
                          Let's see: the Packers could have iced the game on 4th and 1 with the best rushing attack in football against one of the worst run defenses.

                          Let's see: the Packers defense gave up a game tying FG in the final seconds on a drive they started at their own 20 and were able to convert the infamous 4th and 26.

                          Let's see: Favre had two TDs, no fumbles, and no interceptions in that game until that throw.

                          Yeah, let's blame Favre.
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                          • #43
                            Brady is a great QB, but if you are going to play this game, shouldn't it be pointed out that he's been average or bad in 3 of his last 4 playoff games. He was horrible in a loss in the 2005 playoffs against Denver. Last year, he was horrible in a win vs. San Diego but was saved when a San Diego corner fumbled the ball after what should have been the game clinching interception. He was pretty ordinary against the Colts in the AFC Championship game last year, and couldn't lead the Pats back at the end.

                            Now, to be fair, his team just didn't have the supporting cast to get it done. His defense let him down, and he didn't have a Troy Brown, Deion Branch, etc. This year, Bill went out and got him Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Donte Stallworth.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Originally posted by motife
                              How about that pass in the Philadephia playoff game. The long blooper when the Packers were in good shape to tie or win the game with plenty of time left on their last drive?

                              Tom Brady like?
                              Let's see: the Packers could have iced the game on 4th and 1 with the best rushing attack in football against one of the worst run defenses.

                              Let's see: the Packers defense gave up a game tying FG in the final seconds on a drive they started at their own 20 and were able to convert the infamous 4th and 26.

                              Let's see: Favre had two TDs, no fumbles, and no interceptions in that game until that throw.

                              Yeah, let's blame Favre.

                              Harv, that was a team loss all around the board, coaching staff, offensive line, defense, everyone had blame, some more than most. Favre's throw in overtime was unbelievably ridiculous. There was no reason for it, it was mind bottling. Worst throw of his career. Unexplainable really, even the excuse that he thought the receiver picked up the blitz and ran a fly route, but there were two Eagles camped out under the ball, even if Walker ran the right route he would have had to fight them off for at best an incompletion.

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                              • #45
                                "All I know is before he (Favre) showed up, the Packers couldn't spell playoffs"

                                I think this quote about sums it up.

                                If Favre is such a ridiculously poor decision maker, how in the hell does Green Bay have the best record in the NFL since his arrival?

                                If Favre is such a ridiculously poor decision maker, how have his teams won at least 10 games more than half of the time during his tenure in Green Bay?

                                Has he made some bad throws? Hell yeah.

                                Has he had some bad games? Hell yeah.

                                So have Manning, Brady, Montana, Marino or any other NFL QB.

                                Favre is a winner, and he would simply not be the QB he is without giving him the chance to make plays.

                                I'll bet you a million dollars that Tom Brady could never have thrown a 4th down TD lightning bolt after getting knocked out of the game with a concussion a few plays before...or lead a 4th quarter comeback against Cincinnati in his first legitimate playing time in the NFL...or play through any of the myriad of injuries Favre has sustained in his career.

                                Does that make Favre a better QB? No.

                                However, it makes him Brett Favre...someone who will stand as a legend in the game long after fans have glossed over the accomplishments of boring robots like Manning or Brady. It takes more than stats to accumulate the respect and admiration of all NFL fans...something few NFL players ever hope to achieve. Favre is one of those rare players. I wouldn't trade him for anyone else...even if he tosses a wacky throw here or there.
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