Overrated!!

[SkinBasket]

Explain something to me -- Brady owns the single season TD record at 50, beating Manning (49), Favre (never more than 39), Elway (27), and Marino (48, also 44). Additionally, Brady had a passer rating of over 117 this year. Only Manning on your list, at 121, ever did better. No quarterback on your list of throwers ever posted over a 108 (Marino). So are you serious in saying Brady can't sling it with this group?

Besides, how can you have a group of great throwers that doesn't inlcude Steve Young (lead the league in passer rating a record 6 times), Johnny Unitas or Roger Staubach? And you don't inlcude Starr as a thrower? Dude, he led the league in passer rating 5 friggin times! In 1966, Starr's rating was 105 -- Favre has never cracked 100, ever, for a season -- and in the playoffs, Starr's rating was 104.

If you're distinguishing throwers from winners (for whatever reason), then shouldn't you add to the throwers names like Sonny Jurgensen, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Daryle Lamonica, Fran Tarkenton, Jim Plunkett, and Earl Moon? And if you're not inlcuding Slingin' Sammy Baugh in your list of slingers, well then, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

Noodle > (JustinHarrell*100)

[b bulldog]

On average, Brady has been average in three straight playoffs. He seems to have one great game, one average game and one stinker game. Most national football people already have Brady in the top 5 alltime and I agree with that. He is a player that usually never beats his own team by his play alone. With everything being said, I've never, ever heard a football fan say that the Pats will win if the good Brady shows up like you do about other QB's and that speaks volumes about a QB when his own fans are nervous about his play when it counts. I'll go with the guys in the know here over us lamen football people. Saying that a guy has to prove more when he has already won the league MVP, Super Bowl MVP, been in 5 AFC Champonship games, played in four SB,s , and has had the greatest season ever by a QB is totally retarded.

[MJZiggy]

Wait until Brady is as old as "other QB's" and see if he's still in the league much less worrying about which Brady is gonna show up...

[Deputy Nutz]

Haven't we already had 4 or 5 degenerate into this topic?

[b bulldog]

This nervousness has been around more than the past few years.

[KYPack]

Noodle for leader!

What Noodle said, write it down, it's all right on the mark.

[b bulldog]

I agree

[vince]

Explain something to me -- Brady owns the single season TD record at 50, beating Manning (49), Favre (never more than 39), Elway (27), and Marino (48, also 44). Additionally, Brady had a passer rating of over 117 this year. Only Manning on your list, at 121, ever did better. No quarterback on your list of throwers ever posted over a 108 (Marino). So are you serious in saying Brady can't sling it with this group?

Besides, how can you have a group of great throwers that doesn't inlcude Steve Young (lead the league in passer rating a record 6 times), Johnny Unitas or Roger Staubach? And you don't inlcude Starr as a thrower? Dude, he led the league in passer rating 5 friggin times! In 1966, Starr's rating was 105 -- Favre has never cracked 100, ever, for a season -- and in the playoffs, Starr's rating was 104.

If you're distinguishing throwers from winners (for whatever reason), then shouldn't you add to the throwers names like Sonny Jurgensen, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Daryle Lamonica, Fran Tarkenton, Jim Plunkett, and Earl Moon? And if you're not inlcuding Slingin' Sammy Baugh in your list of slingers, well then, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

Here endeth the lesson.

[Patler]

when all is said and done you will have your 4 great passers in history:

1. Favre
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Marino


then you will have winners that people will try to put in the class of those 4 men but no one else belongs with those 4 guys..

Brady
Montana
Aikman
Bradshaw
Starr


these type of QB's are no where near the top 4

Without critiquing who is or isn't on you lists, and whether or not some of your "passers" are/were also "winners" and "winners" also "passers"; I will simply comment that generally speaking I will take a "winner" over a "passer" any day of the week.

[Zool]

Im not coming to GH's defense here, I'm just going to point out that Culcrapper had 39TD's one season. Before the season Brady's highest single season was 28. Better than Aikman, but hardly in the top 3 pure passers ever. This season was the perfect storm for NE for offense.

[Patler]

Im not coming to GH's defense here, I'm just going to point out that Culcrapper had 39TD's one season. Before the season Brady's highest single season was 28. Better than Aikman, but hardly in the top 3 pure passers ever. This season was the perfect storm for NE for offense.

Peyton Manning has exceeded 30 only 4 times in 10 seasons, and just barely 3 of those times, with 31 in 2006 and 2007 and 33 in 2000. His year with 49 was an anomaly, too.

[Zool]

Im not coming to GH's defense here, I'm just going to point out that Culcrapper had 39TD's one season. Before the season Brady's highest single season was 28. Better than Aikman, but hardly in the top 3 pure passers ever. This season was the perfect storm for NE for offense.

Peyton Manning has exceeded 30 only 4 times in 10 seasons, and just barely 3 of those times, with 31 in 2006 and 2007 and 33 in 2000. His year with 49 was an anomaly, too.

Before this year Brady's avg was 24.5 if you take out 2000 in which he pretty much didnt play. I will grant you that he's never had Marvin Harrison until this year.

I've never been one to think that Peyton is one of the greatest passers ever. He's very smart at the LOS, but he tends to get lost in high pressure. At least the times I've watched him. He's more like Jim Kelly than he is Dan Marino.

Marino
Elway
Favre
Moon

Thats my top passers of the modern era, but if I had to win one game, I would take

Montana
Elway

Brady has been very good/great for 6 years, but I want to see him do it with nothing around him, like Elway did, before he gets the nod.

[MJZiggy]

Well, we saw what he can do when they fail to protect him the other night...

[RashanGary]

To Tom Brady

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23018953#23018953

[Pacopete4]

my point is that Favre, Elway, Marino, Manning are the most talented or best passing QB's there is in this game when it comes to winning Super Bowls they are not simply by Brady, Bradshaw, Aikman, Montana having won more..