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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by twoseven
    Rocket Ismail versus Qadre Ismail?

    Kris Jenkins versus Cullen Jenkins?

    Ty Detmer versus Koy Detmer?

    IMO, the little brother was/has not been quite as productive. Don't mention Eli, Peyton is still a much better QB, regardless of them both having the one ring.

    Drafting Cromartie for his name only, no thank you.
    Great examples, too bad they have nothing to do with DCR as he is a COUSIN.

    BTW, Q vs. R ismail: 68 GS, 353, 5137 or 74, 363, 5295...OOOPS!!! Q kills in in KR.

    Kris Jenkis: 85 Games, 64 GS, 18 sacks. Cullen: 62 games, 29 GS, 14 sacks. AND STILL PLAYING. Shortlived comet or 10 year average player. I'll take Cullen.
    Kris is a massive DT that stuffs the run, not a pass rusher. Anyone that has actually watched Kris Jenkins play will still take what he's done on the CAR line (think Pickett, but every year he played) over what Cullen has done for us.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by twoseven
      Now I'm curious, can anyone come up with a younger brother that outplayed the older one?
      Brett Favre outplayed his older brother Scott.

      I'm sure there are plenty of examples...but when younger brothers succeed, rarely do the older brothers get a chance to prove themselves...as their playing days are, in essence, done.

      When older brothers succeed, their younger brothers get plenty of chances based on the success of their older brother...probably a few too many. That is why there are so many examples of failed younger brothers that come to mind.
      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by twoseven
        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
        Originally posted by twoseven
        Rocket Ismail versus Qadre Ismail?

        Kris Jenkins versus Cullen Jenkins?

        Ty Detmer versus Koy Detmer?

        IMO, the little brother was/has not been quite as productive. Don't mention Eli, Peyton is still a much better QB, regardless of them both having the one ring.

        Drafting Cromartie for his name only, no thank you.
        Great examples, too bad they have nothing to do with DCR as he is a COUSIN.

        BTW, Q vs. R ismail: 68 GS, 353, 5137 or 74, 363, 5295...OOOPS!!! Q kills in in KR.

        Kris Jenkis: 85 Games, 64 GS, 18 sacks. Cullen: 62 games, 29 GS, 14 sacks. AND STILL PLAYING. Shortlived comet or 10 year average player. I'll take Cullen.
        Kris is a massive DT that stuffs the run, not a pass rusher. Anyone that has actually watched Kris Jenkins play will still take what he's done on the CAR line (think Pickett, but every year he played) over what Cullen has done for us.
        Kris WAS a player, but i'll take 10 years of being solid over 3 years of being great. You think Carolina wasn't hurting paying him a ton of cash for him to basically not play for 2 consecutive years. And, not one start last year.

        Consistency with a team is what makes teams great.

        I'll just take the fact that you didn't mention DCR and Q vs. R as tacit admission of your mistake.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Leaper
          Originally posted by twoseven
          Now I'm curious, can anyone come up with a younger brother that outplayed the older one?
          Brett Favre outplayed his older brother Scott.

          I'm sure there are plenty of examples...but when younger brothers succeed, rarely do the older brothers get a chance to prove themselves...as their playing days are, in essence, done.

          When older brothers succeed, their younger brothers get plenty of chances based on the success of their older brother...probably a few too many. That is why there are so many examples of failed younger brothers that come to mind.
          That's true. Few will remember that the Gramaticas and the Del Grecos had some serious battles as to who was el burro grande in their families.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by twoseven
            Originally posted by The Leaper
            Originally posted by twoseven
            IMO, the little brother was/has not been quite as productive.
            You can add Matt/Tim Hasselbeck to your list.

            The problem is that there are probably numerous example of younger brothers being better than the older brothers too. It is just that we are more likely to remember when the older brother is successful first and heaps expectations on a younger brother. If a younger brother pans out, but his older brother was never in the picture, we aren't going to hear about it.
            The older brother probably kicked little brother's ass so often growing up, the inferiority complex that ensued will never allow the older brother to be outplayed, so never draft the sibling.

            Now I'm curious, can anyone come up with a younger brother that outplayed the older one?

            Darren Sharper was better than his younger LB brother Jamie.
            I already gave you Quadry.

            Shannon Sharpe is a good example.

            Hard to discern when one brother plays o and the other plays defense. Tiki vs. Ronde.

            But, i'm pretty sure we'll see kenny irons outperform david.

            Time will tell for the Bullocks.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Originally posted by twoseven
              Originally posted by The Leaper
              Originally posted by twoseven
              IMO, the little brother was/has not been quite as productive.
              You can add Matt/Tim Hasselbeck to your list.

              The problem is that there are probably numerous example of younger brothers being better than the older brothers too. It is just that we are more likely to remember when the older brother is successful first and heaps expectations on a younger brother. If a younger brother pans out, but his older brother was never in the picture, we aren't going to hear about it.
              The older brother probably kicked little brother's ass so often growing up, the inferiority complex that ensued will never allow the older brother to be outplayed, so never draft the sibling.

              Now I'm curious, can anyone come up with a younger brother that outplayed the older one?

              Darren Sharper was better than his younger LB brother Jamie.
              I already gave you Quadry.

              Shannon Sharpe is a good example.

              Hard to discern when one brother plays o and the other plays defense. Tiki vs. Ronde.

              But, i'm pretty sure we'll see kenny irons outperform david.

              Time will tell for the Bullocks.
              Peyton outplayed eli,

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                Shannon Sharpe is a good example.
                Arguable at best, especially amongst Packer fans. If Sterling doesn't have the neck injury he probably goes on to be one of the best WRs in history. Shannon was very good, but I think Sterling's ceiling was much higher.

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                • #23
                  Romeo Bigguns was a much better poster than Tyrone.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by twoseven
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Shannon Sharpe is a good example.
                    Arguable at best, especially amongst Packer fans. If Sterling doesn't have the neck injury he probably goes on to be one of the best WRs in history. Shannon was very good, but I think Sterling's ceiling was much higher.
                    If my aunt was my sister...blah blah blah.

                    Look, my friend, we can play the "what if" game all you want. But, when people analyze careers you can only go with what is in the books.

                    Shannon had a better career. And, arguably SS revolutionized the TE position. From needing to be a blocker to being a receiver.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Charles Woodson
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Originally posted by twoseven
                      Originally posted by The Leaper
                      Originally posted by twoseven
                      IMO, the little brother was/has not been quite as productive.
                      You can add Matt/Tim Hasselbeck to your list.

                      The problem is that there are probably numerous example of younger brothers being better than the older brothers too. It is just that we are more likely to remember when the older brother is successful first and heaps expectations on a younger brother. If a younger brother pans out, but his older brother was never in the picture, we aren't going to hear about it.
                      The older brother probably kicked little brother's ass so often growing up, the inferiority complex that ensued will never allow the older brother to be outplayed, so never draft the sibling.

                      Now I'm curious, can anyone come up with a younger brother that outplayed the older one?

                      Darren Sharper was better than his younger LB brother Jamie.
                      I already gave you Quadry.

                      Shannon Sharpe is a good example.

                      Hard to discern when one brother plays o and the other plays defense. Tiki vs. Ronde.

                      But, i'm pretty sure we'll see kenny irons outperform david.

                      Time will tell for the Bullocks.
                      Peyton outplayed eli,
                      How so? Eli won his first championship years quicker than Peyton.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                        If my aunt was my sister...blah blah blah.
                        ..you'd be from Kentucky.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                          Originally posted by Charles Woodson

                          Peyton outplayed eli,
                          How so? Eli won his first championship years quicker than Peyton.
                          You're saying you would take Eli over Peyton Manning as a player because he got a SB win faster? So.. stats matter when looking at the Sharpe's and Ismails but not when looking at the Mannings?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by twoseven
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Originally posted by Charles Woodson

                            Peyton outplayed eli,
                            How so? Eli won his first championship years quicker than Peyton.
                            You're saying you would take Eli over Peyton Manning as a player because he got a SB win faster? So.. stats matter when looking at the Sharpe's and Ismails but not when looking at the Mannings?
                            but anyways how does this compare to cromartie since they are cousins and not brothers.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Charles Woodson
                              Originally posted by twoseven
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              Originally posted by Charles Woodson

                              Peyton outplayed eli,
                              How so? Eli won his first championship years quicker than Peyton.
                              You're saying you would take Eli over Peyton Manning as a player because he got a SB win faster? So.. stats matter when looking at the Sharpe's and Ismails but not when looking at the Mannings?
                              but anyways how does this compare to cromartie since they are cousins and not brothers.
                              It doesn't. Blame Partial.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by twoseven
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Originally posted by Charles Woodson

                                Peyton outplayed eli,
                                How so? Eli won his first championship years quicker than Peyton.
                                You're saying you would take Eli over Peyton Manning as a player because he got a SB win faster? So.. stats matter when looking at the Sharpe's and Ismails but not when looking at the Mannings?
                                QB is a special case where winning superbowls seems to count more than almost anything else. Not saying I agree with that..but, it seems to come up here alot.

                                Stats: I wouldn't ever say OUTPLAYED since Eli has been in the league for a much shorter time. I wouldn't even begin to compare their careers.

                                I used Q and SS because their careers were OVER. You brought up Eli and Peyton..not i.

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