DRC - Are you buying the hype??

[cpk1994]

Now I'm curious, can anyone come up with a younger brother that outplayed the older one?

Brett Favre outplayed his older brother Scott.

I'm sure there are plenty of examples...but when younger brothers succeed, rarely do the older brothers get a chance to prove themselves...as their playing days are, in essence, done.

When older brothers succeed, their younger brothers get plenty of chances based on the success of their older brother...probably a few too many. That is why there are so many examples of failed younger brothers that come to mind.

That's true. Few will remember that the Gramaticas and the Del Grecos had some serious battles as to who was el burro grande in their families.

Don't forget the Kicking Zendejas's, Luis, Tony, and Max.

[The Leaper]

I think he did. Did you ever hear him complain about the media or the coach. Or about his fellow players?

Personally, I don't think either guy is really mentally tough. They are physically skilled, but both have had their share of mental miscues over the years.

I do agree that this debate is one that is better left for 5+ years down the road...too early to really judge either guy on an absolute basis just yet.

[Charles Woodson]

If you wanna say peyton was better in their early years..fine. But, the point was comparing brothers..and i think it is best to do when their careers are over.

yes i still do think that peyton is better than eli, hell if eli had not won the sb, everyone would still be saying how bad he was.... i do agree with the fact that comparing them when their careers are over, but thats a hell of a long time away. And when comparing them, people will compare elis stats which includes his first 4 years.

i do acknoledge that peyton had a much better team overall, but saying that the giants had no dominant back is bull, Brandon jacobs was injured for the first few games and still hit 1000 yds. When he was hurt ward filled in and did a phenomenal job. Near the end of the season Bradshaw came in and swept up

If 1000 yards is dominant to you, fine. But, far from it for me.

Jacobs is a nice back, and they have complementary backs. But, none of them compare to Faulk or edge in his prime. Jacobs barely catches the ball.

he didnt play in 5 games, and he barely played in the season opener... I think he played well in the games he did, hit 100 yards in 5 outa the 10 games, and never had a avg. lower than 3.2, while he had mostly 5 avg.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If you wanna say peyton was better in their early years..fine. But, the point was comparing brothers..and i think it is best to do when their careers are over.

yes i still do think that peyton is better than eli, hell if eli had not won the sb, everyone would still be saying how bad he was.... i do agree with the fact that comparing them when their careers are over, but thats a hell of a long time away. And when comparing them, people will compare elis stats which includes his first 4 years.

i do acknoledge that peyton had a much better team overall, but saying that the giants had no dominant back is bull, Brandon jacobs was injured for the first few games and still hit 1000 yds. When he was hurt ward filled in and did a phenomenal job. Near the end of the season Bradshaw came in and swept up

If 1000 yards is dominant to you, fine. But, far from it for me.

Jacobs is a nice back, and they have complementary backs. But, none of them compare to Faulk or edge in his prime. Jacobs barely catches the ball.

he didnt play in 5 games, and he barely played in the season opener... I think he played well in the games he did, hit 100 yards in 5 outa the 10 games, and never had a avg. lower than 3.2, while he had mostly 5 avg.

Ya gotta play to be dominant...that is kinda a criteria...and catch the ball.

As i said, he is a nice back..certainly what they hoped for when they drafted a certain UW back, but i wouldn't call him dominat. Not yet, at least.

[twoseven]

Peyton was never considered mentally tough all the way back to college. Thus the "peyton manning face."

Eli's meally-mouthed complacent face is 24-7 though, yuck. Peyton is the superior commercial star and kicks Eli's ass in product marketability, all except for Stridex and Clearasil. Peyton was untouchable on SNL. Peyton has a better haircut. Time to re-think things Bigguns.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Peyton was never considered mentally tough all the way back to college. Thus the "peyton manning face."

Eli's meally-mouthed complacent face is 24-7 though, yuck. Peyton is the superior commercial star and kicks Eli's ass in product marketability, all except for Stridex and Clearasil. Peyton was untouchable on SNL. Peyton has a better haircut. Time to re-think things Bigguns.

The "peyton manning face" is when the choked. Not on commercial tv.

You need to read bill simmons.

[twoseven]

Peyton was never considered mentally tough all the way back to college. Thus the "peyton manning face."

Eli's meally-mouthed complacent face is 24-7 though, yuck. Peyton is the superior commercial star and kicks Eli's ass in product marketability, all except for Stridex and Clearasil. Peyton was untouchable on SNL. Peyton has a better haircut. Time to re-think things Bigguns.

The "peyton manning face" is when the choked. Not on commercial tv.

You need to read bill simmons.

Sarcasm.

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damn this guys looking impressive at the combine

[red]

i watched the db's at the combine yesterday (on tv)

cromartie stole the show. he looked much faster and more crisp then any other guy on the field. and he's bigger then everyone else

he sure looks like the real deal and not just hype

but i think he moved up the board and might be gone by our pick.

talib on the other hand looked very sloppy and almost out of control

[Carolina_Packer]

This draft screams trade down.

But our position screams draft up.

For the 391st time, anyone who claims we are in some kind of great position to trade down ignores past history. Teams typically don't trade up into the last 2-3 spots of the 1st round...because the salary they will be paying their pick will be twice what it would be if they stood pat in the 2nd round.

Sure, we all love trading down...but you need to have a partner willing to trade up, and history suggests we won't find one where our #1 pick lies.

Unless you can find a partner like San Fran was to New England last year. That worked out well...for New England! They used the 4th to get Moss and have the 7th pick this year. The rich got richer.

[b bulldog]

he'll be gone by our pick