Williams to be Traded

[HarveyWallbangers]

Looks like a done deal. Great deal. An extra 2nd round pick and $6.3M of cap space.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=723290

I hope the cap space didn't factor into this. That's something we don't have to worry about this year.

I hope TT did this because he sees a big improvement in Harrel and/or Muir, and doesn't think Williams is needed. Yes, a 2nd rounder is nice, but that's the future. I'm pretty sure Williams would've helped us more than any second round choice will this year.

Not necessarily. If Harrell and/or Muir (and any rookies) step up to complement Pickett and Jolly, we might not be that much worse off without Williams. Maybe the second round pick comes in and shines. You never know. Plus, it's possible that Thompson uses the $6.3M saved to sign FAs or resign some of his own players.

[b bulldog]

Well done TT, well done!

[Scott Campbell]

It is very cold in Cleveland...and it smells bad.

They are looking for any ray of hope.

It's warmer in Cleveland than Green Bay. And the days of Cleveland smelling bad are long gone. They've done a great job with their downtown area.

[Bretsky]

Anybody want to bet that one of our second rounders turns into a 3rd and 4th rounder ?

Only the first two rounds are on day one; I already envision TT trading down with one of those picks to regroup strategy wise day 2

I'm ready for the draft now; bring it on

[Spaulding]

CW to the Browns. This has the makings of Keith McKenzie to the Browns but with netting a high draft choice and the Browns getting burned worse due to the cost of the contract.

As Red mentioned earlier, losing CW to FA seemed like a strong possibility just a few weeks ago and then TT tags him and viola - high draft choice. TT amazes me all the time. Wonder if he moonlights at Texas Holdem tournaments for practice on enhancing his dealings with other GM's.

Any word on Packers interest in Huff? I nowhere near the fan Tank is of him but still remember that National Championship game when he was all over the field and can't believe he wouldn't be a solid player in our secondary.

[Carolina_Packer]

Here's an official release that I saw on Yahoo Sports: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=st&type=lgns

Kudos to TT for making this possible by tagging him and finding Phil Savage the GM of the Browns as a trade partner. They were only going to get one more year out of him at most, and did not see themselves competing for his services after that, so rather than let him walk, he parlayed that into a 2nd rounder! Great job!

[Scott Campbell]

As Red mentioned earlier, losing CW to FA seemed like a strong possibility just a few weeks ago and then TT tags him and viola - high draft choice. TT amazes me all the time. Wonder if he moonlights at Texas Holdem tournaments for practice on enhancing his dealings with other GM's.

I'm glad he did it, and pleased with the results. But its not rocket science either. I think some of us are amazed just because we were so used to Sherman and his blunders.

[RashanGary]

We had sort of a cruddy group of picks with being #30 in every round and then losing our 6th rounder (although it was well worth it). This gives this draft class a lot better chance of being a big success.


I'm hoping for

CB
OT
OG
TE
DE
DT
WR
RB
QB
S

Oh hell, I think our roster could use better talent at every position. CB, OT, TE and DE are the positions I'm most hopefull for though.

[Scott Campbell]

Anybody want to bet that one of our second rounders turns into a 3rd and 4th rounder ?

Only the first two rounds are on day one; I already envision TT trading down with one of those picks to regroup strategy wise day 2

I'm ready for the draft now; bring it on

I'm not as sure about trade down scenarios this year. The roster doesn't have the holes it previously did, and we don't have as many job openings. Though I suppose having to cut very good players at the end of camp is a good problem to have.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I'm find just staying put

Think if a RB like Stewart feel to round one
pick up a TE in round two
and a CB in round two

And sign a veteran starting OG


Ah, one can dream

This dream seems very probable, so don't be surprised if it happens B. We really need a CB and a TE and the deepest position in free agency is OG which is probably our biggest need.

Right now am just so happy with this trade. Makes draft day all that more exciting.

[Bretsky]

Anybody want to bet that one of our second rounders turns into a 3rd and 4th rounder ?

Only the first two rounds are on day one; I already envision TT trading down with one of those picks to regroup strategy wise day 2

I'm ready for the draft now; bring it on

I'm not as sure about trade down scenarios this year. The roster doesn't have the holes it previously did, and we don't have as many job openings. Though I suppose having to cut very good players at the end of camp is a good problem to have.

Ah, I think there are several area of improvement that are there

We could use more capable players at the following positions without even thinking much.........:

TE
LB
OG
OT if they don't have faith in Barbre and Colledge
S
CB
CB
P
QB

If a stud RB is there in round one and TT wants to go BPA he may grab him as well. WR would not surprise me either. This draft is suppose to be quite deep so adding up the picks in TT style can only help.

[The Leaper]

It's warmer in Cleveland than Green Bay. And the days of Cleveland smelling bad are long gone. They've done a great job with their downtown area.

I've sat in Jacobs Field and Cleveland Browns Stadium numerous times in the last 10 years.

It still stinks, although the smell more comes and goes now depending on weather conditions.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm not as sure about trade down scenarios this year. The roster doesn't have the holes it previously did, and we don't have as many job openings. Though I suppose having to cut very good players at the end of camp is a good problem to have.

I'm convinced that Thompson will stick to his guns. If he's at a pick and has a bunch of guys grouped similarly, he'll see if anybody wants to trade down. Whether you think you need depth or not, why not go this route?

[Joemailman]

Wow, this is looking like a done deal. Kudos to TT for getting a 2nd out of an above average player that wasn't going to be here anyway!!

Give Me A T!
Give Me A T!
What's That Spell?
TT!!!

[RashanGary]

I do think there is a benefit to stacking players even if you have decent ones.

Rayner had a decent year. We brought in a draft pick, cut Rayner and moved forward.

Our DT situation looked good. We brought in a high pick, and then got a 2nd rounder.

We have a pretty good WR situation right now, but if we brought another in, Martin would likely be replaced.



I also think there is an added benefit in letting everyone know they could be replaced. I know these guys have the opportunity of a life time and shouldn't do anything to risk it, but how many of you have ever gotten into a bad routine or slipped into a little rut at the age of 22 or 23? It can happen to anyone. I think it's less likely to happen in a situation where you know the GM will do everything he can do to replace you even if you're OK.