JAY GLAZER reports FAVRE is DONE

[Fritz]

Again: he is not allowed to retire until after next season, when he has led them to the Super Bowl and victory.

LA LA LA LA LA LA. I CAN'T HEAR WHAT BRETT IS SAYING CUZ MY HANDS ARE OVER MY EARS. LA LA LA LA LA...

[Packers4Glory]

this is a really sad time. When I was a wee lil lad, I barely remember Dickey. tho i had a little football uniform w/ his name on it complete w/ the pads and helmet. its my first packer memory.

When I was old enough to know things, the Majik man was my fav player. I was crushed when he got hurt and in came this Favre dude who I couldn't pronounce his name.

Then this guy instantly turned me into a fan. He's been the guy running the pack most of my life and I have tons of memories thanks to him.

Now we got to start all over after experiencing one of the best to EVER play this game. Thats is a monumental fact that should start to sink in for some.

sometimes...change sucks my balls just a little too hard.

[sepporepi]

It is typical Favre:

Expect the unexpected

He retired the way he played.

I was pretty sure 2 Years ago, he would retire and pretty confident he would come back this time.

[Partial]

This is really pissing me off. Brett is no dumb hillbilly. He knows TT better than any of us, and no doubt knew the chances of TT signing Moss were slim to none. This is made-up media garbage, IMO.

This is not about Randy Moss. It is about a legend who has already long outlived the dream NFL career. Who else even considers coming back for an 18th season??

I am grateful for the 17 years he gave us. Can we please just honor his legacy today?

Sorry but this is a "what have you done for me lately" league. Favre is no longer a Packer, and I respect him for walking away, but he left this team when they counted on him the most, to get to the Super Bowl in 2008.

Agreed 100%

[Deputy Nutz]

Things Change

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vZAEt4W6rsc

[Partial]

How about Chris Simms? Sure he's missing a spleen, but he played OK when he had one.

[Partial]

I've always said that Brett makes his decisions emotionally.

One day he wakes up and hear the news that Randy Moss signed with the Pats and he no longer had an excuse, a good exciting this'll be fun excuse, to work his 40 year old ass off one more time to play one more year in a career in which he has nothing left to prove.

During the last five years or so Brett has worked with personal trainers and committed to staving off the effects of age with grueling workouts. I think he's just not feeling it. Not the workouts, not the mini-camps, not the meetings, and certainly not training camp.

God bless him, he is a great guy, and he is the only athlete-hero I've ever had.

Enjoy the view from the tractor.

QFT

[The Leaper]

If it helps anyone...he is why I am confused.

Favre near the end of last season...after/during most of the mental prep that he put in which he now points to as to why he is quiting...claimed that he felt like he WOULD return in 2008.

If he was so burdened by the mental toll of the game at that point, why would he claim that he was welcoming a return in 2008? I would figure that if it was such a toll that you would be saying the exact opposite.

I'm not upset Favre is retiring...he has earned the right to walk away whenever he wants. I'm just confused as to why because things don't add up.

[Fritz]

[quote="Partial"]

This is really pissing me off. Brett is no dumb hillbilly. He knows TT better than any of us, and no doubt knew the chances of TT signing Moss were slim to none. This is made-up media garbage, IMO.

This is not about Randy Moss. It is about a legend who has already long outlived the dream NFL career. Who else even considers coming back for an 18th season??

I am grateful for the 17 years he gave us. Can we please just honor his legacy today?

Sorry but this is a "what have you done for me lately" league. Favre is no longer a Packer, and I respect him for walking away, but he left this team when they counted on him the most, to get to the Super Bowl in 2008.[/quote]

Agreed 100%

Brett Favre? Didn't he used to be the Packers' QB?

Howz about Aaron Rodgers, huh? Is he gonna be the man, or what?

[Noodle]

Favre left while he was on top. I couldn't be happier for him the way he shut everyone up, including me, with a friggin' lights out final run. Now, my memories of his final year will be him getting hoisted by DD after setting yet another record and of the Snow Game. Sweet.

Those who are pissing about Favre saying the mental part wore down don't know dick about competing at Favre's level. And it's silly to say no other QB wore out mentally -- really Poindexter, well tell me how many QBs played 200 straight games.

He's in the undiscovered country. And he's tired. Not to be.

[PackerBlues]

Apologies to all, I am getting this new a little late, I have read all 14 pages in this thread, and now I need to vent a little too.............................


Well, Packers.com went all out and busted out the same exact web page they accidentally leaked last week. How classy. It shows about as much class as all you knuckleheads going on about how the rest of us should not use this occasion as an opportunity to bash Thompson..............While saying such priceless shit as "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Brett."


Add to that all the bitching about the reasons for his retirement that have come out in the media. Not being able to commit himself mentally. Not knowing if he could commit himself 100%. Unreal to me that people would choose to harp about the excuse for retirement. Yet people right here in these forums are doing just that.

Personally, I am going with the Bus Cook excuse, in that Brett did not feel like Thompson was showing him enough "love".

I do not even have to try to bash Thompson. I am sure many of you will see it that way. But all I have to do, is point out what Thompson has done in Free Agency this year, and the "no love" theory suddenly has merit.

What does Thompson do to fix an O-line that anyone with half a brain could see was still in shambles after the 2005 dismantling.......................
He signs Joe Toledo.

Moss would have more than likely have stayed in NE no matter what, and was going to use other teams to drive up his salary offer from NE. That being said, even if Moss would have been serious about entertaining offers from other teams, I do not believe for one second that Thompson would have went after him, and more importantly, I do not think for one second that Thompson has the ability to attract any players that are worth chasing after.

The one final bit of irony in all of this, by retiring, Brett Favre has just forced Thompson to do something that he would not have done otherwise.............................. spend money.

[Zool]

Took ya long enough Tank.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=11517

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sorry but this is a "what have you done for me lately" league. Favre is no longer a Packer, and I respect him for walking away, but he left this team when they counted on him the most, to get to the Super Bowl in 2008.

Agreed 100%

QFI (quoted for idiocy)

Every year there are about 12 teams with a realistic shot of making it to the Super Bowl. You can't expect Favre to wait until the Packers fall into the bottom half of the league before he retires.

I'm not sure that Rodgers in 2008 won't be as good as the 2008 version of Favre would be. Their skills are going in opposite directions.

[sepporepi]

Enjoy the view from the tractor.

That brings up another question:

What should he do the rest of his life?

I can not image he ends up on TV.

I can not image he starts coaching (on a serious level)

I can not image he starts a front office job.

I think working the yard becomes pretty boring (even it is a BIG yard) after some years.

I fact to me the lack of alternatives was one reason I believed he will come back.

[Fritz]

Apologies to all, I am getting this new a little late, I have read all 14 pages in this thread, and now I need to vent a little too.............................


Well, Packers.com went all out and busted out the same exact web page they accidentally leaked last week. How classy. It shows about as much class as all you knuckleheads going on about how the rest of us should not use this occasion as an opportunity to bash Thompson..............While saying such priceless shit as "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Brett."


Add to that all the bitching about the reasons for his retirement that have come out in the media. Not being able to commit himself mentally. Not knowing if he could commit himself 100%. Unreal to me that people would choose to harp about the excuse for retirement. Yet people right here in these forums are doing just that.

Personally, I am going with the Bus Cook excuse, in that Brett did not feel like Thompson was showing him enough "love".

I do not even have to try to bash Thompson. I am sure many of you will see it that way. But all I have to do, is point out what Thompson has done in Free Agency this year, and the "no love" theory suddenly has merit.

What does Thompson do to fix an O-line that anyone with half a brain could see was still in shambles after the 2005 dismantling.......................
He signs Joe Toledo.

Moss would have more than likely have stayed in NE no matter what, and was going to use other teams to drive up his salary offer from NE. That being said, even if Moss would have been serious about entertaining offers from other teams, I do not believe for one second that Thompson would have went after him, and more importantly, I do not think for one second that Thompson has the ability to attract any players that are worth chasing after.

The one final bit of irony in all of this, by retiring, Brett Favre has just forced Thompson to do something that he would not have done otherwise.............................. spend money.

I think your take on this is more disrespectful of Favre than Thompson. If you really believe Favre left because he didn't feel loved - "But all I have to do, is point out what Thompson has done in Free Agency this year, and the "no love" theory suddenly has merit" - than you are suggesting that a HOF QB actually believed he was not wanted, after having had a nearly career year for a coach who let him audible the game and a GM who put together a team that went 13-3. Do you really think Favre believed TT somehow thought the Packers would be better without Favre? I'd like to give Favre more credit than that.

I think the dude was, as he said, just tired out. All that practicing, all the studying, all the work that he had to do to get his body and mind ready.

To think of him as a petulant man-child who quite cuz Daddy didn't love him enough - nah, that's not Brett Favre, I don't think.