JAY GLAZER reports FAVRE is DONE

[Brohm]

13-3 not sure what you want TT to do, especilly since what he has been doing has worked. I'll go with what Brett said and that he is just "tired." I remember about a month ago when the talk was how TT and MM had a sit-down with Farve and told him they want him back, without question.

[Deputy Nutz]

Apologies to all, I am getting this new a little late, I have read all 14 pages in this thread, and now I need to vent a little too.............................


Well, Packers.com went all out and busted out the same exact web page they accidentally leaked last week. How classy. It shows about as much class as all you knuckleheads going on about how the rest of us should not use this occasion as an opportunity to bash Thompson..............While saying such priceless shit as "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Brett."


Add to that all the bitching about the reasons for his retirement that have come out in the media. Not being able to commit himself mentally. Not knowing if he could commit himself 100%. Unreal to me that people would choose to harp about the excuse for retirement. Yet people right here in these forums are doing just that.

Personally, I am going with the Bus Cook excuse, in that Brett did not feel like Thompson was showing him enough "love".

I do not even have to try to bash Thompson. I am sure many of you will see it that way. But all I have to do, is point out what Thompson has done in Free Agency this year, and the "no love" theory suddenly has merit.

What does Thompson do to fix an O-line that anyone with half a brain could see was still in shambles after the 2005 dismantling.......................
He signs Joe Toledo.

Moss would have more than likely have stayed in NE no matter what, and was going to use other teams to drive up his salary offer from NE. That being said, even if Moss would have been serious about entertaining offers from other teams, I do not believe for one second that Thompson would have went after him, and more importantly, I do not think for one second that Thompson has the ability to attract any players that are worth chasing after.

The one final bit of irony in all of this, by retiring, Brett Favre has just forced Thompson to do something that he would not have done otherwise.............................. spend money.

Why don't you go and repost your spew from las off season instead of taking the time to compose another? I guess Favre just wasn't happy with his 13-3 regular season. I suppose it was everyone elses fault that things fell apart on him in the second half and overtime in the Giants game. I am sure Randy Moss and his one touchdown in the post season really would have helped.

Anyone think that Thompson's job would be a little easier if Favre didn't wait until the first week of free agency to announce his retirement? Don't you think that impacted some of Thompson's options?

[Fritz]

[quote="Harlan Huckleby"]

Sorry but this is a "what have you done for me lately" league. Favre is no longer a Packer, and I respect him for walking away, but he left this team when they counted on him the most, to get to the Super Bowl in 2008.

Agreed 100%

QFI (quoted for idiocy)

Every year there are about 12 teams with a realistic shot of making it to the Super Bowl. You can't expect Favre to wait until the Packers fall into the bottom half of the league before he retires.

I'm not sure that Rodgers in 2008 won't be as good as the 2008 version of Favre would be. Their skills are going in opposite directions.[/quote]

I luv ya, you old blue dog, but I strongly disagree with you here.

[Lurker64]

To think of him as a petulant man-child who quite cuz Daddy didn't love him enough - nah, that's not Brett Favre, I don't think.

Agreed 100%. To think that Favre was honestly going to retire because his GM didn't give him the tools he needed to succeed is to greatly, greatly underestimate the man. Honestly, if Favre was going to throw a tantrum and quit because of lack of free agent signings after the first weekend, he probably wouldn't have made it 17 years in this league in the first place and he probably would have retired last year (unless he knew something about Frank Walker that we didn't.)

To be honest, I think that Favre's retirement has a lot more to do with how good a job that Thompson has done overall than how poor a job he had done. Favre realizes that the team now has the talent to succeed without Favre carrying it alone on his shoulders, and so he feels comfortable walking away since he's not abandoning people that depend on him and need him.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Favre realizes that the team now has the talent to succeed without Favre carrying it alone on his shoulders, and so he feels comfortable walking away since he's not abandoning people that depend on him and need him.

Favre is Christ-like! Sorry Lurker, I really don't think Favre is worried about the team after he leaves, beyond wishing them well. He's leaving because he doesn't want to play anymore, nothing more or less.

[Lurker64]

Sorry Lurker, I really don't think Favre is worried about the team after he leaves, beyond wishing them well. He's leaving because he doesn't want to play anymore, nothing more or less.

You're probably right, but I think that it's vastly more likely that "Favre feels okay walking away because he feels as though he doesn't need to carry the team anymore" than "Favre feels okay leaving because he's mad at Ted Thompson's inaction in the first weekend of Free Agency."

[packinpatland]

I just heard a comment from a newscaster out of Milwaukee...........

'There will be a void, not just for the Packers, but for the entire NFL."

[The Leaper]

I can not image he starts coaching (on a serious level)

I'm guessing he becomes a coach at the high school level...with no aspirations to go any further than that.

[PackerBlues]

I think your take on this is more disrespectful of Favre than Thompson. If you really believe Favre left because he didn't feel loved - "But all I have to do, is point out what Thompson has done in Free Agency this year, and the "no love" theory suddenly has merit" - than you are suggesting that a HOF QB actually believed he was not wanted, after having had a nearly career year for a coach who let him audible the game and a GM who put together a team that went 13-3. Do you really think Favre believed TT somehow thought the Packers would be better without Favre? I'd like to give Favre more credit than that.

I think the dude was, as he said, just tired out. All that practicing, all the studying, all the work that he had to do to get his body and mind ready.

To think of him as a petulant man-child who quite cuz Daddy didn't love him enough - nah, that's not Brett Favre, I don't think.

I do not think for one second that Favre is being petulant. I am sure that this was a hard decision for him to make, and a lot of different things factored into his decision. But anyone who says that Thompson's lack of activity in free agency had nothing to do with this, or that it could not have had anything to do with Favre's decision to retire...... is just plain full of shit. Was it the deciding factor, maybe, maybe not. I guess until Brett decides to write a book 20 years from now, all that any of us can do is speculate. Unless you are a complete jag off like zool or nutz, in wich case, you could speculate, posture, and bash everyone whose opinions you do not agree with.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just venting here:

I live in the Twin Cities and these Viking fans just couldn't be happier or more gloating if they tried. The vast majority now feel that the Vikes are the team to beat in the NFC North and that the Packers are back to below .500. This isn't just a couple of guys, it's going into the 30's now. Not such a good day to be in MN.

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March 4th fools!

[Fosco33]

Thanks for everything, Brett!

Classic - your first completed pass is to yourself and your last pass was to an opponent.

Please, please -- just don't pull an MJ and come in/out of retirement. Enjoy your time away from the game - and get ready for what lies ahead.

[SkinBasket]

I'm sure someone's already said this, but we're fucked.

That being said, I think next season will be that much more exciting.

[Lurker64]

But anyone who says that Thompson's lack of activity in free agency had nothing to do with this, or that it could not have had anything to do with Favre's decision to retire...... is just plain full of shit.

This is quite possibly the most idiotic thing anybody other than Tank has ever said on this message board. Other than making Faneca (who's on the wrong side of 30) the highest paid lineman in history of the game as a Packer, there's really not much we could have done in the first weekend that would have legitimately upgraded the team. The first wave of FA guys are the guys looking to be starters, and we're fine at pretty much all of the starting positions. Brett knows this, and in fact he's repeatedly pointed out how talented this team is. I'm sure Brett's the last guy likely to say "we've got to go out and get some guys more talented than the guys we have."

You're just looking for a way to spin this against Thompson, which is despicable.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I just heard a comment from a newscaster out of Milwaukee...........

'There will be a void, not just for the Packers, but for the entire NFL."

The biggest void is all the packer fans currently voiding their bowels.

I was impressed with ARod's Dallas performance. Anxious to see what he can do.

Guess I'm filled with the audacity of hope - yes we can!