JAY GLAZER reports FAVRE is DONE

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm sure someone's already said this, but we're fucked.

That being said, I think next season will be that much more exciting.

maybe both of these are true.

[Partial]

I am now even more appreciative to the three rats I watched the posters game with. I will never forget that trip and the one time I ever saw a legend.

[The Leaper]

But anyone who says that Thompson's lack of activity in free agency had nothing to do with this, or that it could not have had anything to do with Favre's decision to retire...... is just plain full of shit.

I have to agree with PackerBlues on this.

Favre didn't blow up last year openly in the media for no reason. Favre was certainly in disagreement with the careful, measured approach to building the team.

If he was that disappointed last year, you have to think he is also disappointed this year when Friday, Saturday and Sunday roll around and there isn't one story of Green Bay making a play for ANY key free agent...despite being on the cusp of a trip to the Super Bowl.

I don't think it is just coincidence that Favre hangs them up after 3 days of complete inactivity in free agency...and in a confusing manner that suggests this was more of a hasty emotional decision, as Bus Cook is telling us more about what Favre thinks than the man himself.

[MadtownPacker]

I am now even more appreciative to the three rats I watched the posters game with. I will never forget that trip and the one time I ever saw a legend.

My too P. I will always remember you as the white boy I went with to see Favre at Lambeau.

[Deputy Nutz]

But anyone who says that Thompson's lack of activity in free agency had nothing to do with this, or that it could not have had anything to do with Favre's decision to retire...... is just plain full of shit.

I have to agree with PackerBlues on this.

Favre didn't blow up last year openly in the media for no reason. Favre was certainly in disagreement with the careful, measured approach to building the team.

If he was that disappointed last year, you have to think he is also disappointed this year when Friday, Saturday and Sunday roll around and there isn't one story of Green Bay making a play for ANY key free agent...despite being on the cusp of a trip to the Super Bowl.

I don't think it is just coincidence that Favre hangs them up after 3 days of complete inactivity in free agency.

And if this is fact than Favre is being a baby. He didn't need anymore weapons to beat the Giants except maybe a better situation at offensive guard, but he was the one that threw the last pick in over time. He is as much responsible as the next guy in the locker room. signing free agents isn't going to change that.

[Lurker64]

And if this is fact than Favre is being a baby. He didn't need anymore weapons to beat the Giants except maybe a better situation at offensive guard, but he was the one that threw the last pick in over time. He is as much responsible as the next guy in the locker room. signing free agents isn't going to change that.

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[cpk1994]

But anyone who says that Thompson's lack of activity in free agency had nothing to do with this, or that it could not have had anything to do with Favre's decision to retire...... is just plain full of shit.

This is quite possibly the most idiotic thing anybody other than Tank has ever said on this message board. Other than making Faneca (who's on the wrong side of 30) the highest paid lineman in history of the game as a Packer, there's really not much we could have done in the first weekend that would have legitimately upgraded the team. The first wave of FA guys are the guys looking to be starters, and we're fine at pretty much all of the starting positions. Brett knows this, and in fact he's repeatedly pointed out how talented this team is. I'm sure Brett's the last guy likely to say "we've got to go out and get some guys more talented than the guys we have."

You're just looking for a way to spin this against Thompson, which is despicable.

I don't know about that, Merlin has made some vey solid efforts today!

[The Leaper]

And if this is fact than Favre is being a baby.

Well, I'm not suggesting that was the MAIN reason Favre hung them up. He may have been strongly leaning that way for a couple weeks...and when Green Bay did nothing to improve the roster on the first weekend of free agency, it was the final straw.

Based on his outburst last year, I could certainly see that as a likely scenario.

As such, to say that lack of activity in FA had NOTHING to do with Favre's decision seems to ignore some glaring pieces to the puzzle that suggest otherwise. That is why I agree partly with PackerBlues.

[Merlin]

But anyone who says that Thompson's lack of activity in free agency had nothing to do with this, or that it could not have had anything to do with Favre's decision to retire...... is just plain full of shit.

This is quite possibly the most idiotic thing anybody other than Tank has ever said on this message board. Other than making Faneca (who's on the wrong side of 30) the highest paid lineman in history of the game as a Packer, there's really not much we could have done in the first weekend that would have legitimately upgraded the team. The first wave of FA guys are the guys looking to be starters, and we're fine at pretty much all of the starting positions. Brett knows this, and in fact he's repeatedly pointed out how talented this team is. I'm sure Brett's the last guy likely to say "we've got to go out and get some guys more talented than the guys we have."

You're just looking for a way to spin this against Thompson, which is despicable.

I don't know about that, Merlin has made some vey solid efforts today!

Just keep proving the reality my friend, it never gets old.

[Chester Marcol]

Is it just a coincidence that the Falmer's Almanac just came out and it forecasts a January colder than this last one?

In Brett's expressions, body language, and obvious dismal second half performance of the playoff loss I really felt Brett wanted to be anywhere else warmer than Green Bay that night. Shit. I didn't want to run out to pick up food and munchies for the game let alone stay out in it for 3 hours.

[Lurker64]

when Green Bay did nothing to improve the roster on the first weekend of free agency, it was the final straw.

Favre should know well enough that the guys who would honestly improve our roster are not the guys who are signed on the first weekend of free agency. The first weekend of free agency is primarily reserved for players who are looking to be starters on their new teams. We didn't need any new starters (though we need one at QB now), so there was nobody out there that would have really been much of an upgrade available during the first week of free agency.

The guys who honestly would improve this team are depth guys and guys who are looking to compete for spots, instead of being anointed into them. Those are the guys that sign in the second wave of free agency.

If Favre got upset because we didn't improve the game during the first weekend of free agency, then honestly Favre is either an idiot or has really unrealistic expectations. It would have been practically impossible (or misguided) to improve this team during the first weekend of free agency.

I'm honestly perplexed that everybody here seems to think Favre is lying when he says that the reason he's walking away from the game is that he's mentally exhausted. If he was really mad at the front office folks, he's perfectly capable of saying something to that effect, which he did not. In fact, he specifically made phone calls to quash rumors that he wasn't returning because of lack of Moss or because he didn't feel wanted.

[Merlin]

Those who are looking to blame is just human nature. The reality is that the Packers FA inactivity had a little to do with it, but so did his age, his family, etc. With of course the later having more to do than the former.

Thompson hasn't done a lot in FA with the Packers since his arrival. That is a fact. Favre expressed his displeasure with that the previous two seasons. That is a fact. To say that it didn't play a small part and to call that statement idiotic is just a plain emotional reaction, not a well thought out or logical response. In fact it is Thompson supporters don't want to hear so they lash out against any implication no matter how small it is.

Is Thompson to blame totally? Probably not. Is he part of the decision to retire, probably so. It's to the extent it was part of that decision that we do not know.

[Deputy Nutz]

And if this is fact than Favre is being a baby.

Well, I'm not suggesting that was the MAIN reason Favre hung them up. He may have been strongly leaning that way for a couple weeks...and when Green Bay did nothing to improve the roster on the first weekend of free agency, it was the final straw.

Based on his outburst last year, I could certainly see that as a likely scenario.

As such, to say that lack of activity in FA had NOTHING to do with Favre's decision seems to ignore some glaring pieces to the puzzle that suggest otherwise. That is why I agree partly with PackerBlues.

Still, it is a lack of patience on the behalf of Brett. Thompson didn't do anything in the off season last year but still landed James Jones, and Donald Lee became a significant weapon, and Ryan Grant came out of no where to lead the team in rushing. Favre's lack of trust and patience in Thompson is then ridiculous.

[The Leaper]

I'm honestly perplexed that everybody here seems to think Favre is lying when he says that the reason he's walking away from the game is that he's mentally exhausted.

Only because he intimated toward the very end of last season that he felt like there was a good chance he would return...after he had already put in a considerable mental investment into 2007.

So what changed in the last few games of the year to convince him otherwise?

[The Leaper]

Favre's lack of trust and patience in Thompson is then ridiculous.

No one is confusing Favre with being a future GM candidate.

Tom Brady, despite numerous rings, was still whining for a guy like Moss last season. NFL QBs like shiny new toys to play with.