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Leaper's gone off the deep end.
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"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson -
No, I think I'm being practical.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
Football is a fucking game. If the mental challenges are so difficult that you can't bear to continue with it, then your priorities are screwed up.
I'm fine with 9-1-1 dispatchers burning out due to mental fatigue. I can understand.
I'm fine with brain surgeons burning out due to mental fatigue. I can understand.
I can't understand how a football player burns out due to mental fatigue. Favre can basically take 6 months off from ANY mental preparation whatsoever. Sure, he has to PHYSICALLY prepare for football continually, but he has no mental demands on him relating to football whatsoever right now.
If anything, he is mentally burned out from the RETIREMENT QUESTION...God knows we ALL are. That is his own damn fault as well.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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I have yet to hear of a QB who has played 270 straight games over the span of 17 years without missing a start, who retired because of mental strain, myself.Originally posted by The Leaper
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I agree - and i think mental strain is real. Very real. It would be very difficult to put in the time and the preparation that Favre did. The dude was well known to be much more the studier than most people originally thought. Hell, MM let him audible the crap out of the game last year, and you have to be prepared to be able to do that.
He was probably the best quarterback the Green Bay Packers have ever had."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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4-12 team... he comes back...
13-3 team... he leaves...
I still don't get it...Comment
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Understated with classical midwestern flair.Originally posted by Fritz</delurk>Comment
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Football is more mental than physical, no matter how it looks from the stands.
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Yeah. Weird.
Say it ain't so, Brett. Say it ain't so!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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You are talking out of your ass.Originally posted by The Leaper
Try being the boss and knowing your job never ends. That is what it like to be brett. He is tired of the grind. He can't get up for it. The media attention, the weight of the job, the never ending film session, etc.
Brett doesn't just leave the practice field and go home. It takes that job home with him every night...it is running thru his head. After all awhile that just becomes burdensome.
I'm glad you've never burned out on something. But, that doesn't make it not real. Or perhaps vermeil was just making it up.
Try and imagine that college lasted for 17 years. Every week you had a test. No down time. Remember this isn't the nfl of the 70s..more practice, more OTAs, more film reading, etc.
And, just because you've never heard of a QB..well, that is a specious argument. I can recall many athletes that had burnout...usually young kids in sports like tennis that just got tired of the grind.
Go google "athlete" "burnout" and see 105,000 results.
Here is an excerpt from a sports psychologist..talking about tennis..but, he reads eerily as something written about Favre.
Description of Burnout
Burnout in sport is often defined as physical, emotional and mental exhaustion, but it is also described as the distress resulting from such exhaustion. It's a condition in which the athlete experiences stress over an extended period of time resulting in reduced motivation and interest in the activity. In short, you're worn out, tired of the sport, and don't ever want to see another racket, bat, or helmet again!
How could burnout possibly occur to individuals so committed to their sport, so excited by the thrill of victory, and so focused on continual achievement? Well, these positive traits of commitment and desire are often the very cause of the problem. Individuals who take their sport less seriously rarely experience burnout, but they never maximize their performance either. If you have experienced burnout, start by giving yourself credit that you care.
Causes and Solutions to Reverse the Onset of Burnout
There are many causes of burnout and it usually develops slowly over time rather than suddenly. Let's briefly examine three of the most common causes of burnout with solutions to reverse the onset of burnout. You may need to combine these solutions to meet your specific needs. If you are completely exhausted mentally and physically, and have already reached burnout, the only real solution is to take time off from your sport. Return to sport when you are ready again, with greater knowledge to avoid becoming another victim of burnout.
Cause: Pressure to Win
Whether you're struggling to break top 10 in the tennis world or just fighting to remain on your high school rugby team, too much pressure to win (from others or self-imposed) can be extremely frustrating when the results are not coming as fast as you expect. It's a vicious circle in that your ambition and drive to succeed actually causes your performance to decline. You eventually throw in the towel rather than patiently discovering the key to improvement.Comment
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I think it makes perfect sense.Originally posted by packers11"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Favre had spoken to Moss late last week and was willing to commit to more than just this season if Moss and the Packers could come to an agreement. But the Packers did not pursue Moss, who re-signed with the Patriots on Monday.
In his voice mail message to Mortensen on Tuesday, Favre said the Packers' lack of pursuit of Moss was not the driving reason why he retired.
"This is not about the Packers and who they got or who they didn't get. I get along fine with [Thompson] and I get along great with [McCarthy]. Do I agree with them all the time? No. But the bottom line is, none of that stuff affected my decision," Favre said.
McCarthy said he and Favre had never discussed bringing in Moss.
"But I can tell you one thing, never once in all my converstaions with Brett this offseason has he ever asked or told me that we had to have Randy Moss for him to come back and play," McCarthy told Mortensen. "Randy Moss' name never came up once. And it bothers me that [Favre's agent] has made this an issue.""There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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For some reason I have a weird "well that's that" feeling.
I'm sure it'll sink in later down the road.
Thanks for everything Brett. You've been an inspiration and a joy to watch for some many people."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael FinleyComment
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I know. That's precisely where I'm at. The decision is entirely devoid of logic in terms of viewing Favre's competitive past and hunger to win. Just as he reaches the point where his team is championship caliber again...he quits.Originally posted by packers11
However, you have to accept it and move on I guess.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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Maybe Donald Driver will convince him to stay
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You are just flat out wrong.Originally posted by The Leaper
It is the mental and EMOTIONAL part that sticks around.
As for QB..it is a poor attempt on your part. Most QBs don't get to his spot. So, how can we even compare. Most lose it physically.Comment
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