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  • #31
    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
    Originally posted by Bob McGinn
    The Packers own the 30th pick in a draft that is nine weeks off. If Brett Favre returns, it's reasonable to think Thompson might like to trade up in the first round for a player that could offer more to a team seeking a Super Bowl appearance before their aging quarterback loses his stinger.

    However, Thompson has never displayed much enthusiasm for a win-now approach.



    He also wrote this about Thompson not wanting to win now, but in the same press conference Thompson said he takes the best player and seeks the most value because it helps the team win the most games now and later. McGinn picks his pieces, throws in what he thinks it means and twists reality to drum up drama and sell papers.

    Just know when you read this stuff that it's not whe philosophy and approach of the GM. If you want to know that, you have to acctually listen to the conference yourself. People who get the news from JS are getting the distorted version spiced up with paper selling drama. Just remember you can get the real stuff for free at packers.com before you pony up and pay to have reality distorted by some writer with a big head and poor ethics.
    Also know that the stuff you get at packers.com is all feel good fluff. Yea, I read it too, but there are no critical pieces on that site.

    I personally don't care what McGinn does. If he is lying then the truth will come out eventually. If he is trying to start a crusade against TT, he will have a pretty tough time doing it if the team continues to grow as it has.

    Of course he's going to inject his personal biases into his articles, you should know that going in.
    Go PACK

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    • #32
      I'm not talking about the fluff pieces, I'm talking about the press conferences. I don't know how many people listen to those, but 80% of what is written in the papers comes from those conferences. Rather than taking what you hear 2nd hand I strongly recommend people just listen to the press conferences and lockerroom conferences themselves. YOu can hear how players, coaches and front office personal answer in completeness, not just the one sentence that fits the current skew.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #33
        For the record, I think packers.com fluff pieces are junk.

        Silverstein is pretty good at JS and the press gazette is pretty good about being straight forward, honest and open with sources rather than having unnamed sources like McGinn. I don't evne mind unnamed sources so much if it helps him dig more draft info but the problem is that I see him skewing direct quotes that I also got to hear. I imagine he's skewing everything else now as well. It must makes it hard for me to trust anything he writes, esspecially when so much of it comes from the proverbial un-names source and he's not even shy about skewing the names sources words when evidence is right on packers.com for everyone to hear.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #34
          I think closure is not what I'm even thinking about.....another page has been turned in the big Packer story and were onto something new. I am looking forward to seeing how this team comes out and shows that life goes on and the Packers winning will continue as well. We have some damn good players on this team yet.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Freak Out
            I think closure is not what I'm even thinking about.....another page has been turned in the big Packer story and were onto something new.
            I think you're right in that closure is the wrong term. As much as a Brett Favre fan as I was, I was a hundred times more a Packer fan. While Favre is walking off into the sunset, the Packers are moving forward into something new and different. It's a scary time, and a sad time, but also a little exciting. I'd rather take a step forward than close the book on anything.
            </delurk>

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              For the record, I think packers.com fluff pieces are junk.

              Silverstein is pretty good at JS and the press gazette is pretty good about being straight forward, honest and open with sources rather than having unnamed sources like McGinn. I don't evne mind unnamed sources so much if it helps him dig more draft info but the problem is that I see him skewing direct quotes that I also got to hear. I imagine he's skewing everything else now as well. It must makes it hard for me to trust anything he writes, esspecially when so much of it comes from the proverbial un-names source and he's not even shy about skewing the names sources words when evidence is right on packers.com for everyone to hear.
              OK that I can agree with. I hate the use of unnamed sources. I guess it doesn't bother me cause I don't listen to the interviews on packers.com.
              Go PACK

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              • #37
                Everyone should listen to them. Really. I say this all of the time like I deserve some badge, but I listen to every single one. Sometimes I wait a couple days after a loss, but I listen to every one from TC through the season.

                You'll find that just about everything they write is based on the lockerroom access (that is filmed and shown at packers.com) and the press conferences (that are also shown at packers.com). Then you can see who skews and who reports. McGinn is considered the best by many, but as we get more from the horses mouth, you realize he's not the best at all. He's just the least ethical.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by PackerBlues
                  Originally posted by SkinBasket
                  BTW, congrats on getting over your self inflicted mental anguish Blues.
                  Well golly, thanks skin. Coming from you, that means absolutely nothing to me, as do your opinions, and you yourself.

                  There have obviously been a few people who understand what I was trying to say in my post, but then there are shitheads like you, who even on a day like today, cannot help but to act like an ass and take enjoyment in other peoples misery. You truly are a pathetic little child.
                  Well golly, if I mean so little to you, then stop getting so worked up about me and my opinions.

                  I forgot I was supposed to coddle you and your "special" posts when you're feeling down. I'll try harder to be more aware of your self pity from now on. After all, since you're sad you should get a free pass on anything you post.
                  "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                  • #39
                    I don't see how anyone could blame McCarthy or Thompson for Favre leaving, not that anyone who has posted up this point has. Just a general comment in response to the subject line. This is the umteenth he's considered retirement, and this was just the year. It was going to happen sometime. I do keep going back to his comment that he can still play. I wonder if the itch will return in July and that he might reconsider. Right now that doesn't look probable, but we'll see if we get past July and into August.

                    This team is still well led by the front office and coaching staff. I think they keep developing this team and the talent they have and will acquire in free agency(if any) and through the draft. If they can pull off a 13-3 last year unexpectedly, why can't they pull off a 10 win season this year. It's not all about A-Rod. There is a lot of talent left on the team to build around. Perhaps when Favre was playing it seemed all about Favre, since he was the guy who was a living legend, but I don't think the team will ever be all about Rodgers, and that's good for me. It will be more about the whole team as far as identity. The only major concern, and I'm sure it's this way for a lot of fans is A-Rod's durability.
                    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                      Well it would be tough to call McGinn a liar when Bus Cook, Favre's agent said that Brett wasn't feeling the love.


                      Bus wasn't exactly impartial about Brett coming back.

                      What's 4% of $12M.
                      What's 4% of $0.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        Well it would be tough to call McGinn a liar when Bus Cook, Favre's agent said that Brett wasn't feeling the love.


                        Bus wasn't exactly impartial about Brett coming back.

                        What's 4% of $12M.
                        What's 4% of $0.
                        The whole "Favre wasn't feeling the love" story comes from Scott Favre and Bus Cook,

                        1. A brother sticking up for his brother.
                        2. An agent sticking up for his pocketbook.

                        Both understandable, but their viewpoints must be considered in the greater context. A HOF athlete quits a demanding, physical sport after 17 years on the job.

                        Brett was the one who had the cross to bear. It really doesn't matter what Scott or Bus Cook have to say.

                        McGinn? A writer doing his job.

                        End of story.

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