What Kiper wrote about Favre

[Deputy Nutz]

My point was that Culpepper believed his size would give him added protection when running with the football, I should have explained it better. He thought he was larger and more powerful than linebackers like Ray Lewis, so how could they possibly hurt him?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I feel like the standards for quarterbacks have changed a lot since then. If you re-watch Favre's first game they all talk about him like he's a monster... Now Favre's size is prototypical for a quarterback.

Favre is small for a quarterback. Prototypical is like 6'5" 250. A more appropriate word is standard.

There is Partial again, sniffen glue. Prototypical for a tight end?

Sporting News's 2007 Draft Guide lists optimum NFL QBs at 6-3 225 pounds. Minimum Stanards lists at 6-0 195.

Prototypical means the best possible build. Why would you want someone shorter and less weight??

I'm at work so I can't look up the stats, but I believe Peyton is 6'5", Leinart is 6'5", Eli is 6'4", Palmer is 6'5", Culpeppers was great before he blew out a knee and was 6'6", I believe Vince Young is up there as well and he has had some success. Dave G down in Jax is a big dude and he has had success. Big Ben is huge, so is Derek Anderson from Cleveland. Hasselback is a tall guy as well.

I would say 6'2" is probably about average for NFL qbs. Average is not prototypical imo.

Convenient for you to leave out the 250. Not one of the QBs you mentioned is even close. LOL

You can't pick just one side of your equation and now claim you are right. If this was math..you failed half the problem.

BTW, garrard is 6'1". Culpepper was 6'4"..and the only QB to be over 250.

You are wrong, accept it.

No, I'm not wrong. I want my QBs to be as tall and big as possible. I am sure every GM in the NFL salivates over the size of Cuilpeppers and Russel. I'm not saying that every NFL QB is that big, I am saying if there was a quarterback factory, that's what they'd be pumping out.

Wow. You really just can't admit when you are wrong.

You said six five and 250 was the standard. You never gave your opinion.l

Go back and read what you wrote. Pathetic.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Carson Palmer - 6'5" and 230. My guess is he's heavier than that, though.

Quinn - 6'2" and 240

Anderson - 6'6" and "230". Like Palmer, I believe he is bigger than this.

Roethlisberger - 6'5" 241 - Probably heavier as well.

Manning - 6'5" 230

Garrard - 6'1" 245 after fasting for a week or so.

Vince Young - 6'5", 235

Byron Leftwich - 6'5", 250 great player until injuries caught up

Manning - 6'4" 230

Brady - 6'4" 225

McNabb - 6'2" 240

Collins - 6'4" 230

Campbell - 6'5" 235

Cutler - 6'3" 235

Leinart - 6'5" 235

Alex Smith 6'4" 210

Rusell - 6'6" 265

Hasselback - 6'4" 225

Rivers - 6'5" 230

Bulger - 6'3" 215

Romo - 6'2" 225

Brees - 6'0" 210

Culpepper - 6'5" 260

These are the guys that have been premiere prospects or have had tremendous seasons the past couple of years. As you can see, the weight is probably a little lower than 250 and the height is probably about 6'4". If I was building quarterbacks for a living, I'd add some size to them from 225 and make a thicker, better, player.

Palmer: Why do you guess that he is heavier?

Anderson: Again why?

Lemme guess..cause it helps your pathetic argument.

Byron Leftwich: Great player. LOL What are you smoking. Injuries caught up. Dude he is 27. He never passed for 20 tds. Only once did he complete 60 percent of his passes. YOU CLEARLY DON'T KNOW JACKSHIT.

The point is not what YOU would do..you said that they were the prototype/standard. Clearly you were wrong.

The best QBs in the league don't even come close to 250. Manning, brady, Romo, Favre..nowhere close.