Top 7 QB's of all time

[The Leaper]

By the way : why is the notion that Bart Starr could just possible be superior to Brett Favre be so terribly threatening to you?

It isn't threatening. It just defies logic.

While Starr is superior to Favre in some respects, he's clearly not a better overall QB than Favre. It isn't even close, really.

[The Leaper]

They went 28-48-2 in the three years before and after Lombardi, and Starr was the QB for a majority of that time.

Yep.

That's my point. If Starr was as great as Favre, his teams would not have possessed a .360 winning percentage over the years Starr did not have Lombardi on the sidelines. Yeah, I admit Starr was very young and very old without Lombardi...but in his first 3 years in the league, Starr SUCKED.

That is a point guys like Shadow simply cannot bring themselves to admit. Shadow will point to Favre in 1993 and suggest it compares to Starr's early struggles...when there is no logical way to possibly compare those periods.

Favre, despite constant changes in personnel, coaches and executives and his own personal struggles both on and off the field, had only ONE LOSING SEASON in Green Bay...and that season was so marred by injuries that Favre had the chance to work with such NFL stalwarts as Taco Wallace and Samkon Gado.

Sorry, Starr lovers. No other GBP QB holds a candle to Favre as the total package.

[Zool]

By the way : why is the notion that Bart Starr could just possible be superior to Brett Favre be so terribly threatening to you?

This is a cheap cop out reply. Its just as easy to retort with "why is the notion that Favre could be superior so threatening to you?"

Offensive gameplans from the 60's were quite a bit more simplistic than todays and specifically the WCO. Favre had to know more plays, more formations and more audibles. He has done more with less than Starr. No one is saying that Starr wasnt great, but Favre was better.

Do you think Griese was better than Marino? He played in 3 straight and won 2 superbowls. Marino played in 1 and won 0.

[Fritz]

I hated Fran Tarkenton. Hated that guy. I just wanted to see him once, just once, get nailed.

[The Shadow]

5 championships
1 championship

[Chester Marcol]

5 championships
1 championship

Come on Shadow. You know that comparing championships won only works on Viking fans.

[The Leaper]

5 championships
1 championship

10 HOF players/coaches in support
Herb Adderly
Willie Davis
Forrest Gregg
Paul Hornung
Henry Jordan
Ray Nitschke
Jim Taylor
Willie Wood
Jim Ringo
Vince Lombardi

1 HOF players/coaches in support
Reggie White

To suggest Favre could not have won 5 titles with 10 HOF caliber people around him is stupid.

[The Leaper]

Do you think Griese was better than Marino? He played in 3 straight and won 2 superbowls. Marino played in 1 and won 0.

Of course Shadow thinks Griese is better than Marino.

2 championships
0 championships

Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien and Eli Manning are also better than Marino according to Shadow's logic.

[Zool]

Do you think Griese was better than Marino? He played in 3 straight and won 2 superbowls. Marino played in 1 and won 0.

Of course Shadow thinks Griese is better than Marino.

2 championships
0 championships

Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien and Eli Manning are also better than Marino according to Shadow's logic.

Does that mean Stan Humphries is as good as Marino? He took the Chargers to the SB one year.

[The Shadow]

Bacon beats Shakin'.
Cash over Flash.
Ring trumps Bling.
Championships beat ....... Duh'o!

[Zool]

Well shit Shadow, I'm going to revise my top10 QB's of all time to include Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler.