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Re: Thompson Named Executive of the Year
Originally posted by The ShadowGee. It would be sweet to hear the reaction from several select Ted-Bashers now..........
It'll just be more of the same ole, same ole.........but Randy Moss......but he's cheap.........but he ran Brett out of town..........but he can't find any guards.........yadda, yadda, yadda.
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OK already you TT bobbler, we get it. I think the direction he is going is the right one but until TT builds a team that wins the big one he is on the hook.Originally posted by Scott CampbellIt'll just be more of the same ole, same ole.........but Randy Moss......but he's cheap.........but he ran Brett out of town..........but he can't find any guards.........yadda, yadda, yadda.
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That is really an absurd criteria.Originally posted by MadtownPackerOK already you TT bobbler, we get it. I think the direction he is going is the right one but until TT builds a team that wins the big one he is on the hook.Originally posted by Scott CampbellIt'll just be more of the same ole, same ole.........but Randy Moss......but he's cheap.........but he ran Brett out of town..........but he can't find any guards.........yadda, yadda, yadda.
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Re: Thompson Named Executive of the Year
Why is that? He is a GM! That is his only job! Great draft picks are like him throwing TDs, it will win games but he still needs to put it all together.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsThat is really an absurd criteria.Originally posted by MadtownPackerOK already you TT bobbler, we get it. I think the direction he is going is the right one but until TT builds a team that wins the big one he is on the hook.Originally posted by Scott CampbellIt'll just be more of the same ole, same ole.........but Randy Moss......but he's cheap.........but he ran Brett out of town..........but he can't find any guards.........yadda, yadda, yadda.
That fact you think it is absurd doesnt make you a moron. It just makes you pathetic.
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A lot of really good GMs don't win Super Bowls. There are 32 other teams. Even a good GM would have no better than 50/50 odds of winning a Super Bowl in 10 years. Luck plays a role.
People are spoiled. Our GMs gave us like 5 winning years, 2 playoff berths, and 1 division title from 1968-1992.
My criteria is that he puts the team in position to compete for a championship consistently. It's up to the players, coaches, and luck to get them over the top. If he does that, he's done a good job. If they win it all, then they'll name a street after him.
Look at this year. Is there anybody that thinks Thompson didn't put as much talent on the field as the Giants GM did? He did that two years after 4-12.
Now, that was nice, but that doesn't mean he's a good GM yet. He has to put the team in that type of position consistently."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I would say the mark of a good GM is one who has his team in position to compete for the playoffs for an extended period of time. As was said 1/32s of the teams in the NFL win the SB each year. If Rodgers pans out and the packers win 1-2 playoff games per year the next 4-5 years, that seems pretty damned successful to me.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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TT did a good job getting the team to this point, but I have zero faith that he can bring home the trophy.Originally posted by MadtownPackerI have backed him from day 1 but he aint shit until he has won a Superbowl trophy.
Only championships count, right Shadow?
I too come from the "only championships count" crowd... 3-4 years of floundering around with Rodgers; 3-4 years trying to find his successor - or at least grooming his successor... that's 6-8 years right there.
Bottom line - the Packers offensive system is completely and utterly incapable of winning a championship w/o an all-pro calibur QB. Favre played at that level last year and they still didn't make it...
Does anyone really - REALLY - expect Rodgers to outperform Brett and take us to the SB???
Congrats to TT for winning the award, but awards and slaps on the back don't win championships.wist
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Re: Thompson Named Executive of the Year
What is absurd is saying that he is on the hook till they win the Superbowl. That criteria is ridiculous.Originally posted by MadtownPackerWhy is that? He is a GM! That is his only job! Great draft picks are like him throwing TDs, it will win games but he still needs to put it all together.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsThat is really an absurd criteria.Originally posted by MadtownPackerOK already you TT bobbler, we get it. I think the direction he is going is the right one but until TT builds a team that wins the big one he is on the hook.Originally posted by Scott CampbellIt'll just be more of the same ole, same ole.........but Randy Moss......but he's cheap.........but he ran Brett out of town..........but he can't find any guards.........yadda, yadda, yadda.
That fact you think it is absurd doesnt make you a moron. It just makes you pathetic.
So, if he builds a team that wins 10-13 games a year for the next 10 years...he is on the hook? LOL
So, i guess Bill Polian was some kinda loser till the Colts won the SB. Lay off the meth, it is frying your brain.
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Thompson
At this point, Thompson is in a possible no win situation, some of his own making. I think one can take the statements made since the Favre retirement by certain people and build a good case that Teddy was and is not sorry to see Brett leave. Czarnecki at Fox sports mentions the possiblity again in his latest article.
This is understandable. Rodgers is his guy and in order to make the point that he was brilliant in drafting Rodgers, A-Rod has to play now. Everyone has an ego and to claim Thompson has none is not only foolish, but ignorant as well. However, if for the sake of arguement, we agree Favre based some of his decision to retire on Thompson's lack of support or enthusiasm for Brett coming back, then the fault lies with #04, not the GM.
Thompson is not the genious some make him out to be, nor is he responsible for all the evils of the world that others would like us to believe. He has clearly made more good choices than bad ones.
This season I believe will be very interesting for several reasons. I don't believe Teddy laid awake at night thinking of ways to make the legend go away. However, I also believe he did nothing to encourage Favre to come back and that might turn out to be a critical mistake by Mr Thompson.
I think we can all agree that with Favre back, the Packers would have been the odds on favorite to win the NFC. Teddy would again reap the benefits of having a HOF QB who makes the Thompson regime look very smart. Without Favre though, Teddy will now have to stand all on his own. Rodgers is HIS QB. What some here will soon learn is that Brett made the players around him better than they really might be.
How many times did Favre not just complete the pass, but hit his WR in perfect stride allowing the much coveted YAC? Will A-rod be able to do the same? No one can argue that some of the success the run game had in the 2nd half was because teams feared the Favre arm more than the Grant legs. Much easier to run when the box ain't stacked.
Also, ya gotta believe Favre's retiring will have a serious impact on the offensive scheme. Rodgers will get killed running the 5 wide set because he does'nt have the experience to detect where the open man will be or know where the pressure is coming from. Teams will not fear our passing game and we will see defenses that will concentrate on stopping Grant. It's a different ball game now. Another factor that some were blind to is just how much Favre made our line's protection skills look better than they are with his ability to escape, slide and evade. We will find out just how good the middle of our line really is.
Without #04, Ted will have to stand more on his own this season. It is very possible, Rodgers plays well and the team around him does'nt miss a beat. It is also possible that Thompson will wish he had done more to get the legend back and realize his life was much easier with #04 under center.......
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Originally posted by PacknutThompson is not the genious some make him out to be, nor is he responsible for all the evils of the world that others would like us to believe. He has clearly made more good choices than bad ones.
Ok, this sounds a little bit like revisionist history to me. You and Merlin were duking it out last summer for the number 1 spot in the I HATE TED fanclub.
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