Thompson Named Executive of the Year

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Thompson

Everyone has an ego and to claim Thompson has none is not only foolish, but ignorant as well.

I don't know of anyone here who claimed he had no ego. The disconnect was with those of you who claimed he had a massive ego, and was trying to remake the franchise in his own image.

[Scott Campbell]

Bottom line - the Packers offensive system is completely and utterly incapable of winning a championship w/o an all-pro calibur QB. Favre played at that level last year and they still didn't make it...

Yeah, they still didn't make it because Favre did not play at that level against the Giants. And they probably could have won if he had played better. Most say he got badly outplayed by Manning in that game.

I give Brett plenty of credit for his role in getting the team to that point, but he played lousy against the Giants.

[vince]

A lot of really good GMs don't win Super Bowls. There are 32 other teams. Even a good GM would have no better than 50/50 odds of winning a Super Bowl in 10 years. Luck plays a role.

People are spoiled. Our GMs gave us like 5 winning years, 2 playoff berths, and 1 division title from 1968-1992.

My criteria is that he puts the team in position to compete for a championship consistently. It's up to the players, coaches, and luck to get them over the top. If he does that, he's done a good job. If they win it all, then they'll name a street after him.

Look at this year. Is there anybody that thinks Thompson didn't put as much talent on the field as the Giants GM did? He did that two years after 4-12.

Now, that was nice, but that doesn't mean he's a good GM yet. He has to put the team in that type of position consistently.

This is 100% correct in my opinion. I would add though, that I personally have no doubt that Thompson will indeed continue to put the team in position to win consistently. Having the youngest team in the league with the greatest amount of cap flexibility and being one bad pass away from the Super Bowl is a rather strong indicator of the future.

[The Shadow]

Re: Thompson

At this point, Thompson is in a possible no win situation, some of his own making. I think one can take the statements made since the Favre retirement by certain people and build a good case that Teddy was and is not sorry to see Brett leave. Czarnecki at Fox sports mentions the possiblity again in his latest article.

This is understandable. Rodgers is his guy and in order to make the point that he was brilliant in drafting Rodgers, A-Rod has to play now. Everyone has an ego and to claim Thompson has none is not only foolish, but ignorant as well. However, if for the sake of arguement, we agree Favre based some of his decision to retire on Thompson's lack of support or enthusiasm for Brett coming back, then the fault lies with #04, not the GM.

Thompson is not the genious some make him out to be, nor is he responsible for all the evils of the world that others would like us to believe. He has clearly made more good choices than bad ones.

This season I believe will be very interesting for several reasons. I don't believe Teddy laid awake at night thinking of ways to make the legend go away. However, I also believe he did nothing to encourage Favre to come back and that might turn out to be a critical mistake by Mr Thompson.

I think we can all agree that with Favre back, the Packers would have been the odds on favorite to win the NFC. Teddy would again reap the benefits of having a HOF QB who makes the Thompson regime look very smart. Without Favre though, Teddy will now have to stand all on his own. Rodgers is HIS QB. What some here will soon learn is that Brett made the players around him better than they really might be.

How many times did Favre not just complete the pass, but hit his WR in perfect stride allowing the much coveted YAC? Will A-rod be able to do the same? No one can argue that some of the success the run game had in the 2nd half was because teams feared the Favre arm more than the Grant legs. Much easier to run when the box ain't stacked.

Also, ya gotta believe Favre's retiring will have a serious impact on the offensive scheme. Rodgers will get killed running the 5 wide set because he does'nt have the experience to detect where the open man will be or know where the pressure is coming from. Teams will not fear our passing game and we will see defenses that will concentrate on stopping Grant. It's a different ball game now. Another factor that some were blind to is just how much Favre made our line's protection skills look better than they are with his ability to escape, slide and evade. We will find out just how good the middle of our line really is.

Without #04, Ted will have to stand more on his own this season. It is very possible, Rodgers plays well and the team around him does'nt miss a beat. It is also possible that Thompson will wish he had done more to get the legend back and realize his life was much easier with #04 under center.......

He put #4 in position to win a Super Bowl.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think GM's can do a lot to put their team in position to contend. After that, it's up to the players and coaches.

In other words, I agree with Harv.

Or you agree with me, who called Madtown on this.

I'm not just just funny, i'm smart as well!!

[Scott Campbell]

I think GM's can do a lot to put their team in position to contend. After that, it's up to the players and coaches.

In other words, I agree with Harv.

Or you agree with me, who called Madtown on this.

I'm not just just funny, i'm smart as well!!

Ok, I agree with Ty too. And Harv. But Harv was first.

I also disagree with Burrito Boy.

[sharpe1027]

Bottom line - the Packers offensive system is completely and utterly incapable of winning a championship w/o an all-pro calibur QB. Favre played at that level last year and they still didn't make it...

The Packer offense is predicated on a heavy dose of short passes with (hopefully) a heavy mix of run plays. I don't see why you think it is more difficult than other NFL offenses. It would seem simpler for a QB then say the Colt's offense, which has a heavy dose of down-the-field precision and timing routes. Relatively speaking, I would say that the Packer's current offense is QB friendly. Maybe you think that because their offense sometimes ends up having a lot of pass attempts during the game that QB must be an all-pro? That would be a pretty simplistic analysis.

Maybe Rodgers will fail miserably, but I don't think it will be because he needs to be an all-pro caliber QB to not fail.

[Scott Campbell]

Bottom line - the Packers offensive system is completely and utterly incapable of winning a championship w/o an all-pro calibur QB. Favre played at that level last year and they still didn't make it...

The Packer offense is predicated on a heavy dose of short passes with (hopefully) a heavy mix of run plays. I don't see why you think it is more difficult than other NFL offenses. It would seem simpler for a QB then say the Colt's offense, which has a heavy dose of down-the-field precision and timing routes. Relatively speaking, I would say that the Packer's current offense is QB friendly. Maybe you think that because their offense sometimes ends up having a lot of pass attempts during the game that QB must be an all-pro? That would be a pretty simplistic analysis.

Maybe Rodgers will fail miserably, but I don't think it will be because he needs to be an all-pro caliber QB to not fail.

Great post. Welcome to Rats!

[The Shadow]

Bottom line - the Packers offensive system is completely and utterly incapable of winning a championship w/o an all-pro calibur QB. Favre played at that level last year and they still didn't make it...

The Packer offense is predicated on a heavy dose of short passes with (hopefully) a heavy mix of run plays. I don't see why you think it is more difficult than other NFL offenses. It would seem simpler for a QB then say the Colt's offense, which has a heavy dose of down-the-field precision and timing routes. Relatively speaking, I would say that the Packer's current offense is QB friendly. Maybe you think that because their offense sometimes ends up having a lot of pass attempts during the game that QB must be an all-pro? That would be a pretty simplistic analysis.

Maybe Rodgers will fail miserably, but I don't think it will be because he needs to be an all-pro caliber QB to not fail.

Great post. Welcome to Rats!

What?? A new reasonable poster?
What is happening around here?

[RashanGary]

I'm very interested in this up coming season. I'm a big believer in Ted Thompson, but I recognize there is a chance Favre really was the key to this team. This season will be very interesting.

Congrats to TT though. He made a lot of tough decisions and took a lot of flack. He deserves this for being unaffraid and committed to what he believes.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think GM's can do a lot to put their team in position to contend. After that, it's up to the players and coaches.

In other words, I agree with Harv.

Or you agree with me, who called Madtown on this.

I'm not just just funny, i'm smart as well!!

Ok, I agree with Ty too. And Harv. But Harv was first.

I also disagree with Burrito Boy.

NO, i was first. I said it was an absurd criteria.

[Scott Campbell]

I think GM's can do a lot to put their team in position to contend. After that, it's up to the players and coaches.

In other words, I agree with Harv.

Or you agree with me, who called Madtown on this.

I'm not just just funny, i'm smart as well!!

Ok, I agree with Ty too. And Harv. But Harv was first.

I also disagree with Burrito Boy.

NO, i was first. I said it was an absurd criteria.

Yeah, well I didn't agree with that part. Thus, you lost your spot in line to Harv. Deal with it box bum.

[MadtownPacker]

Now, that was nice, but that doesn't mean he's a good GM yet. He has to put the team in that type of position consistently.

You gusy are agreeing with Harvey? This Harvey?? Cuz it looks like he is agreeing with me. I like Thompson. I dont have expectations this season but I can see the big picture and that is a team on the rise. The QB change is not the end of the world. That's if the new QB is sufficient of course. But TT has a long way to go before he is considered elite. Like 5 years.

[Bretsky]

Congrats to TT

IMO TT has done a very good job; I'n not sure there is a GM I'd rather have for a rebuiling project

I also though the Giants GM was very well deserving of the award

I also agree with Mad; absurd or not TT won't get the glorious manlove from me until he allows me to witness my second Green Bay Packer Championship

[RashanGary]

A great team is built over years of good decisions. The Giants had a young QB who arrived and an amazing Dline that was healthy and played out of this world in the post season. That was not done by Reese. That was done by the guy before. It's the same as giving credit to Sherman for taking over good teams as a GM. It's the same as discrediting Thompson for taking over junk.



YOu don't look at waht a GM does in his first year. you look at what he does in years 3 and on. Those are his teams. The first year is the last GM's team. I've never seen evidence that comes even remotely close to proving anything else.