Speculation on GB's QB targets in draft

[Carolina_Packer]

I asked this earlier in the post, but nobody touched it. Does Josh Johnson get any love as a potential pro QB?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=166992

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-_xn9UTLY

Smaller program QB with good stats. Looks like he can run too. Some of the throws from his video are pretty impressive.

[Gunakor]

Re: Packer QB

First, living in the WAC universe and watching Colledge at Boise State I believe Colledge is a natural left tackle.

Colledge lacks upper body strength but has great footwork. The athleticism is better suited for a left tackle. Just looks more comfortable and confident as a left tackle.

A great qb pick is Colt Brennan. Former Hawaii head coach June Jones stated on a call-in show that Coach McCarthy watched Colt's game tape during the season and was one of 4 teams extremely interested in Colt.

His accuracy is amazing. Toughness and leadership are also strengths. Could be available on the second day due to a surgery prior to the draft.

Dismiss the critics; CB can play in any system.

I actually think he is a decent fit for the WC offense, but no way can he chuck it down the field in a vertical offense. I don't think his arm is that strong. But, Hawaii would chuck up a million 5 yard routes like the Pack do.

I don't know if he's any good because I haven't seen him enough, but I think the knock is his arm strength, but his system experience would translate well to the pack imo.

Brett Favre had incredible arm strength, and I think that helped alot even with our short passing game. Not to mention the fact that Green Bay also throws an awful lot of 60 yard TD's to Greg Jennings, so it is somewhat important that whoever we take - either in the draft or in FA - can get the ball down the field.

Fix whatever ails the O-line and I think the 60 yarders will be possible. The receivers can separate, but can the O-line provide enough time for Rodgers to set up and make a good throw? Also, we have to have a good running game to open up the passing game as well. I think the team has enough at the skill positions to compete well, but our guard play from last year must be addressed.

The arguement here is about Colt Brennan, and if he has the arm strength to get the ball to a streaking Greg Jennings 50 yards downfield. I know from a protection standpoint that the longer pass plays are still possible, this discussion is whether it is still possible from a quarterback standpoint - can our QB get the ball down there accurately.

I think A-Rod can, maybe, but I haven't seen him throw a pass longer than 15-20 yards in his entire NFL career. Colt Brennan, as mentioned earlier, made his name in college by throwing a million 5 yard passes. That would translate well into the WCO that we run in Green Bay, except here in Green Bay we use the shorter passing game to set up the home run balls.

The question then here is whether Colt Brennan can get the ball 50 yards downfield, and get it there accurately. I'm not sure he can, because I've never seen him do it. That doesn't mean he can't do it, obviously, but he'd have to show me first. He might be worth a look if he's still around on day 2.

[rbaloha1]

CB THROWING DEEP

CB can make all the NFL throws. Watch the the college qb competition and the scouting combine tape on youtube. CB won the accuracy contest at the qb competition and was credited with a perfect score in accuracy at the combine. Very impressive.

Granted CB did not make as many deep throws as other qbs. This is attributed to the lack of deep threat receivers at Hawaii.

Timmy Chang had Ashley Lelie as a wideout. AL possessed 4.3 40 speed and just blew by collegiate dbs.

CB,s targets were shorter lacking great speed. Thus Coach Jones used more intermediate routes. YAC was emphasized. Incredible downfield blocking by wrs nd o-linemen However CB made accurate 50 yard plus throws when required.

Coach Jones often remarked he loves the deep vertical game but often forgot them during games due to the success of the intermediate routes.

The talk in Hawaii is the 49ers are very interested in CB. Coach Martz coached CB at the Senior Bowl. CB's agent is 49ers coach Ted Tollner's son. CB is from Southern California.

CB would make the PACKER nation happy. Great kid and leader. Overcame much adversity to become an outstanding player. Coach Jones always placed CB with great ones he coached -- Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Jeff George, Bobby Hebert, etc.

[SkinBasket]

I asked this earlier in the post, but nobody touched it. Does Josh Johnson get any love as a potential pro QB?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=166992

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-_xn9UTLY

Smaller program QB with good stats. Looks like he can run too. Some of the throws from his video are pretty impressive.

You'll have to ask Partial. He has the incredible ability to watch a youtube clip of a player and divine the rest of their football career.

I don't think he's any different than a couple of dozen of other guys out there though, for whatever that's worth. You got a particular reason for liking him?

[MJZiggy]

Thus we disagree. I do think it's inconceivable that any rookie qb in this draft - including Matt Ryan - could beat out Rodgers this year for the starting position.

It's a moot point. Matt Ryan is likely to be picked by Atlanta, and no way are they stupid enough to trade another QB to Green Bay...

[Carolina_Packer]

I asked this earlier in the post, but nobody touched it. Does Josh Johnson get any love as a potential pro QB?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=166992

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-_xn9UTLY

Smaller program QB with good stats. Looks like he can run too. Some of the throws from his video are pretty impressive.

You'll have to ask Partial. He has the incredible ability to watch a youtube clip of a player and divine the rest of their football career.

I don't think he's any different than a couple of dozen of other guys out there though, for whatever that's worth. You got a particular reason for liking him?

Just that he's not in the conversation of top-rated QB's, but would be interesting to see a guy like that, and with his college accomplishments, be given a shot and make good on it. I don't even know what the pro scouts are saying about him, I just like when an underdog makes good, and wondering if he can or not. He was not well recruited out of high school, yet played well at San Diego. Perhaps he's too underrated, but we'll see what he does.

[Partial]

Thus we disagree. I do think it's inconceivable that any rookie qb in this draft - including Matt Ryan - could beat out Rodgers this year for the starting position.

It's a moot point. Matt Ryan is likely to be picked by Atlanta, and no way are they stupid enough to trade another QB to Green Bay...

I disagree that Matt Ryan is picked 3rd.

[Gunakor]

If he doesn't go in the top 2, I don't see how Atlanta could pass him up. The Falcons need a quarterback. Very badly. Even if Ryan is a reach at #3, I think Blank would take that chance rather than head into the season with Joey H atop the depth chart again this year. It's concievable that he drafts a CB in the first round to replace departed DeAngelo Hall too, and I can't speculate on which he feels is the greater need for the Falcons ATM. Me personally, I'd take Ryan in a heartbeat if I were in Blank's shoes. If I'm trying to rebuild a team in such disarray as the Falcons are, the first thing I'd try to look for is a new franchise QB and then I'd build around that. With a new franchise QB practically being handed to them with the #3 pick I don't think they could afford to look at anyone else. Ryan will be a Falcon.

[run pMc]

Maybe someone already asked this (I skipped thru part of the posting)...

One online draft prognosticator actually has the Packers selecting Louisville’s Brad Brohm

Who the h*ll is Brad Brohm?

I agree that a good backup QB needs to be found...there just aren't any out there right now that I can think of. Drafting a QB is likely, but I'd be surprised if it was with one of TT's 1st 2 picks. I also agree a rookie would be very unlikely to beat Rodgers in camp.

I have no problem with him taking an OT in R1...it's supposed to be a deep group this year. The OL needs to improve, and Tauscher/Clifton have some mileage. Drafting someone to eventually replace them will be necessary. I'm not sure Moll is the guy, and GB seems pretty intent on keeping Colledge at guard.

[DonHutson]

I touched on this in another thread, but it wouldn't shock me if the Packers drafted two QB's. Ted is obviously not impressed with any of the vets out there, and I doubt he's planning on giving up a pick of any real value in a trade for a backup.

Therefore, I think it's possible that Ted sees the top rookies as better immediate #2 QBs than any of the available vets. I don't think he'll take one high come hell or high water, but I don't think he'd hesitate if there's one there that he likes and that provides a good value. I think he'll take one in the 4th round or lower to be the #3 regardless of what happens earlier.

If a high draft pick at QB can provide Rodgers falling on his face insurance while providing good backup QB services for a few years before getting traded - that's a good return on the investment.

[Deputy Nutz]

I asked this earlier in the post, but nobody touched it. Does Josh Johnson get any love as a potential pro QB?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=166992

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc-_xn9UTLY

Smaller program QB with good stats. Looks like he can run too. Some of the throws from his video are pretty impressive.

I like this kid, I am a huge San Diego fan I watch all their games.

Actually I have had to read up on the kid a bit and he ran a West Coast type offense under Harbough. He has great measurables, but he had a below average showing at the combine.

He could be groomed. I think he is a QB in the NFL, he has good arm, decent mechanics, and can understand offensive verbage. Had a nice senior bowl.


Watched some game film on youtube, what was posted above. He is a heck of an athlete, and with the ball in his hand he has great vision of the field. Strong arm accurate on all the highlighted throws.

Locked on to receivers, eyeballed them the whole time until it was time to make the throw. Those passes will be read by NFL safeties and picked off. Needs to look off the safeties.

The one thing that you can take from the above he at least knows how to read a defense. He picks the right guy to throw to at least. He didn't out luck double coverage with his throws.