Allen to Vikings... "is close to being in place"

[HarveyWallbangers]

I doubt they'll be able to write in something to get the picks back. The money isn't the big deal if he regresses. The draft picks are.

He may turn out alright. That fact that he's kept his restaurant and bar in KC makes you wonder. You'd think he'd get rid of it after this happened.

[Brohm]

I wouldn't razz Minni about taking a shot with Allen and his past alcohol problems as we did the same with Robinson.

That being said, it was no risk to the Packers with Robinson, while KC is asking for a 1st and 3rd for Allen. HUGE difference there in risk. They could protect themselves with financial clauses but I don't think the picks could be protected, unless they set a new precedent for protecting picks. At least spring for a GPS ankle bracelet, a chauffer and a nanny. :P

[Rastak]

I doubt they'll be able to write in something to get the picks back. The money isn't the big deal if he regresses. The draft picks are.

He may turn out alright. That fact that he's kept his restaurant and bar in KC makes you wonder. You'd think he'd get rid of it after this happened.

Agree on both points. They probably are not getting picks back and I would have though he'd divest himslef of his interest in the place. Not a big deal if he's padi someone to run it for him.

Again, to me it's worth the risk but who knows? Peterson likes to play hardball and a 1 and a 2 is the absolute max I'd go.

[Iron Mike]

At least spring for a GPS ankle bracelet, a chauffer and a nanny. :P

You'd think they'd spring for a SCRAM:

http://www.alcoholmonitoring.com/

[Guiness]

Heh, you guys and your Koren Robinson have no right to razz Viking fans.

I know this was in jest, but pretty big difference, IMO. We got Koren on the cheap - basically off the scrap heap. He was waivers or a street FA (can't remember which) and got a small contract.

Big difference from tossing a couple/few first day picks, and a large guaranteed contract. I'm assuming they'd at least put some clawback clause in there if he didn't behave off the field, but I don't know how smart the Vikings head office is these days

[Rastak]

Heh, you guys and your Koren Robinson have no right to razz Viking fans.

I know this was in jest, but pretty big difference, IMO. We got Koren on the cheap - basically off the scrap heap. He was waivers or a street FA (can't remember which) and got a small contract.

Big difference from tossing a couple/few first day picks, and a large guaranteed contract. I'm assuming they'd at least put some clawback clause in there if he didn't behave off the field, but I don't know how smart the Vikings head office is these days

Yes, I was jesting Guiness. I agree the Robinson deal was risk free. You also get what you pay for. Robinson was a #4 reciever for your team. Allen led the league in sacks with over 15. You aren't gonna get Allen for the league minimum. It's a calculated risk for sure, one I'd be in favor of. You can hope a DE in the draft comes out and plays great but the odds are against it. You want to bump your defense up a notch immediately, this is what you have to do. I have a feeling the Cheifs may play hardball and it won't happen but I'll be watching the news wire.

[Partial]

I'm sure he'll stay outta trouble since he wants his payday.

[MJZiggy]

That's what they said about Koren before he got suspended for a year too.

[packers11]

That's what they said about Koren before he got suspended for a year too.

And Pacman... But Pacman is pretty hard to compare with anyone else... He will keep going to strip clubs even if he has to meet with the Roger goodell the next day... (Maybe he'd even have an invite for Roger as well?)

[motife]

The Vikings are reportedly looking at skipping a trade for Jared Allen, and just signing him after the draft, thereby relinquishing their 1st rd pick in 2009 and 2010. Which vs. a 1st and 2nd in 2008 is probably a wash.

Still, ouch!

That's VERY expensive.

I watched Jared Allen closely in the game against GB this year and he looked very ordinary to me. He's not Demarcus Ware. He's not even Aaron Kampman.

[Chevelle2]

The Vikings are reportedly looking at skipping a trade for Jared Allen, and just signing him after the draft, thereby relinquishing their 1st rd pick in 2009 and 2010. Which vs. a 1st and 2nd in 2008 is probably a wash.

Still, ouch!

That's VERY expensive.

I watched Jared Allen closely in the game against GB this year and he looked very ordinary to me. He's not Demarcus Ware. He's not even Aaron Kampman.

Link?

[motife]

Link?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/20/absent-trade-vikes-likely-to-sign-allen-after-draft/

[Lurker64]

The Vikings are reportedly looking at skipping a trade for Jared Allen, and just signing him after the draft, thereby relinquishing their 1st rd pick in 2009 and 2010. Which vs. a 1st and 2nd in 2008 is probably a wash.

Still, ouch!

That's VERY expensive.

If they do that, I believe KC has the right to match the offer. I wonder if Minnesota will deploy the dreaded "POISON PILL". It certainly went over well the last time they did that.

[Rastak]

The Vikings are reportedly looking at skipping a trade for Jared Allen, and just signing him after the draft, thereby relinquishing their 1st rd pick in 2009 and 2010. Which vs. a 1st and 2nd in 2008 is probably a wash.

Still, ouch!

That's VERY expensive.

If they do that, I believe KC has the right to match the offer. I wonder if Minnesota will deploy the dreaded "POISON PILL". It certainly went over well the last time they did that.

I kinda doubt it because as you said, "it went over so well". They could, however, use every cent they have left this year, which is quite a bit, and force KC to make cuts now to keep him. Given the fact they'd get 2 1st rounders, I would think they'd just take the picks and let him go. Really, two 1st rounders is awfully expensive, even for DE in his prime and taking into account his past.

[Scott Campbell]

I kinda doubt it because as you said, "it went over so well". They could, however, use every cent they have left this year, which is quite a bit, and force KC to make cuts now to keep him. Given the fact they'd get 2 1st rounders, I would think they'd just take the picks and let him go. Really, two 1st rounders is awfully expensive, even for DE in his prime and taking into account his past.

I think he's a very good player, but you're right. It seems pretty risky.