Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[imscott72]

traded our 113 for their 102

why would they just swap? has to be a later pick, a guy or cash...

Yep our 5th was thrown in..

[ND72]

We also gave Jets our 5th round pick

Swapped 4ths & gave them a 5th

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it might have been part of the deal that moved us out of the 1st round?

no, i think we would have known about that

[Lurker64]

traded our 113 for their 102

We presumably traded our 113 and something else for 102. The question is "what is that something else". Teams don't usually give up draft position because you ask nicely.

[Rastak]

How did the Packers get a 3rd fourth round pick?

Compensatory pick.

Wrong. A normal draft pick.

They have 3 fourths because

One is their normal 4th
One was added when they traded out of found one
One was a compensatory pick from last year's free agency

Right I though he was asking about their last pick which can't e traded.

[ND72]

traded our 113 for their 102

why would they just swap? has to be a later pick, a guy or cash...

Yep our 5th was thrown in..

Which means our next 4th rounder will be traded down to the 5th for a 5th & 6th since we don't have a pick in either round

[Lurker64]

We also gave Jets our 5th round pick

Swapped 4ths & gave them a 5th

Ah, okay. So we have two more fourths, and a seventh, and that's it. Ted's not going to make double digits this year.

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i bet you we get a 5th back soon

[Scott Campbell]

what di we give up to move up?

It appears we swapped 4th rounders with the Jets..

Packers.com is not updated yet. ESPN shows us still owning the 113, 128 and 135 picks.

nfl.com was scrolling the Jets in our 113 slot now..

But we had to give up more than that. We moved up 11 spots. I'm wondering what it cost us.

[Rastak]

Ravens take WR Marcus Smith:


trengths: Has adequate top-end seed and can stretch the field. Shows excellent body control, uses frame to shield defenders from the ball and flashes the ability to make the spectacular catch. Flashes the ability to make the first defender miss, is a strong open field runner that can pick up yards after contact and can produce after the catch. Is a competitor and has a knack for making plays at critical points in the game. Plays with a mean streak and is a willing blocker that can sustain when gets into sound position. Has experience returning kickoffs, is an adequate open field tackler that has experience covering kicks, has a knack for downing punts inside the opponent's ten-yard line and can contribute on special teams. Moved from tailback to receiver during red-shirt year, made steady progress at receiver over the course of the next four years and should continue to get better with added experience.

Weaknesses: Hands are inconsistent, appears to lose focus at times and drops too many passes that should catch. Rounds cuts off and doesn't run crisp short-to-intermediate routes at this point. Doesn't explode out of cuts and is going to have a harder time separating from man coverage at the NFL level. Is too late getting head turned around at times and lacks elite awareness. Isn't fast enough to outrun NFL defenses when gets a seam, lacks elite elusiveness and isn't much of a big-play threat after the catch.

Overall: Smith moved from running back to wide receiver during his 2003 redshirt season. He appeared in 13 games in his first two seasons (2004-'05), contributing a combined nine receptions for 89 yards (9.9 average). He cracked the starting lineup as a junior, appearing in 13 games (12 starts) and finishing the season with 53 catches for 859 yards (16.2 average) and nine touchdowns. Smith had a breakout senior year, turning in 7.0 receptions per game (15th in the country) and 86.5 receiving yards per game (24th) in 13 games (all starts). He finished the season with totals of 91 receptions for 1,125 yards (12.4 average) and four TDs. For his career, he also had 54 rushing attempts for 323 yards (6.0 average) and another five scores, plus 68 kickoff returns for 1,353 yards (19.9 average). Smith is a raw route-runner who lacks elite explosiveness and can struggle to make what should be routine catches but he does have some upside because of his top-end speed, body control and toughness. In addition, he has a chance to develop into an excellent special teams' player so he projects as an early fifth round or possibly fourth round pick.

[Bretsky]

9. JEREMY THOMPSON
Wake Forest 6-4½ 267 4.76

Underwent reconstructive knee surgery in '05. "He's just now starting to round into form," Beddingfield said. "His best football is ahead of him. His workout was great. Looks the part of a D-end in the NFL." Registered 8½ sacks and 110 tackles in 46 games (32 starts). "Hard worker, sculpted, no fat," Gruden said. "He's not a real athletic guy but he is a hard player. He'll start at left end. Probably like Kampman, that kind of guy." Older brother Orrin is backup tackle for Green Bay.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Hunter and Montgomery can start to sweat.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We still have the other 3 fourth rounders after the trade.

I don't really like the pick, though. I don't really think we need a DE, and this guy doesn't sound very good--not much speed/sacks, an old ACL problem.

I think he was added for depth. You'd be happy to grab a starting caliber player at this point in the draft, but mostly you are looking for depth. He'll be fine spelling Kampy once and a while.

nah, you don't draft players unless you think they can become starters.

I agree with Tex, this guy sounds unpromising. I guess with positions like DE and CB, it's hard to get excited by picks after the third round. KGB was a bizarre exception, usually those positions require such athletic ability that the good ones are gone early.

[Scott Campbell]

We also gave Jets our 5th round pick

Swapped 4ths & gave them a 5th

So we gave them a 5th to move up 11 spots in the 4th. I'm guessing that one wouldn't work out on the draft pick value chart.

[Rastak]

49ers take C Wallace:

Strengths: Gets adequate hand placement, locks onto defender's frame and can sustain once in position. Plays with good leverage for a player as tall as him and does an adequate job of getting under defender's pads. Has a mean streak and never stops working. Plays with a wide base, has active feet and flashes the ability to redirect in pass protection. Gets adequate knee bend in pass set and can hold ground against bull rushers despite size. Keeps head on a swivel and looks to help guards when no one comes to him. Puts good zip on the ball and rarely makes quarterback adjust to it when shotgun snapping. Though lacks ideal bulk for an NFL guard has the frame to comfortably add weight and could eventually provide depth there.

Weaknesses: Hasn't shown great lower body strength and is going to have problems driving two-gap defenders off the ball. Doesn't deliver a violent initial punch and isn't going to knock many defenders back. Takes some false steps, isn't quick enough to get into position when footwork is sloppy and can have problems preventing penetration. Doesn't extend arms and frequently bails too early when combo blocking up to the second level. Doesn't take sound angles to blocks, lacks the quick feet to adjust to moving targets in space and struggles to get into position at the second level. Lunges and loses balance at times. Can recognize blitz but gets caught flatfooted when isn't engaged with a defender and has some problems adjusting.

Overall: Wallace was redshirted in 2003 and appeared in four games as a freshman in 2004. He went on to play in 36 consecutive games (all starts) over the next three seasons (2005-'07) to close out his career. Wallace was a backup guard in '04 before moving to center in '05. Wallace is a little too light and his footwork is still inconsistent at this point but he has the strong upper body, frame, tenacity and smarts to develop into an excellent backup or capable starter in time. He projects as a fourth or fifth round pick.