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  • That white kid from Gardner-Webb is still available at defensive end. Brian Johnson, 6-5 275 4.66

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    • Has anyone done the point comparisons on our two trades?

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      • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        Has anyone done the point comparisons on our two trades?

        Using which chart though, this year there are two floating around.

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        • Either would be fine I'm guessing.

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          • Eagles take OG McGlynn:


            Strengths: Plays with good balance and leverage. Is technically sound and does a great job with hand placement. Very consistent with his first step and angles. Shows adequate-to-good overall strength. Drives his legs as a run blocker and works hard to sustain once he has locked on. He can generate a push as a drive blocker versus most DE's. Shows the base to anchor versus powerful bull rushers. Experienced, durable and reliable; enters 2007 season with a streak of 31 consecutive starts. High motor player with passion for the game. Has versatility because of experience as a long-snapper on PATs and FGs.

            Weaknesses: Limited athletically. Lacks good quickness and struggles versus top speed rushers. Does not set quickly enough to prevent elite pass rushers from turning the corner. Size is adequate but not good. Is tough and has adequate overall strength, but he lacks explosive power to jar defenders with hand punch. Lacks ideal wingspan. Might be better suited to play guard in the NFL.

            Overall: McGlynn arrived at Pittsburgh in 2003 and was redshirted. In his first three seasons (2004-'06), he played in 35 games (including 31 consecutive starts) at right tackle. He moved to right guard as a senior, but was shifted back to tackle after the Panthers' first three games. He played all 12 games (11 starts) in 2007, but he didn't start the opener because he was hampered by the affects of offseason surgery to repair the labrum in his left shoulder. McGlynn played through the injury during the second half of the 2006 season. McGlynn has just decent size and he's not a great athlete, which is why his best fit in the NFL should be inside at guard where he's better protected. However, he is a durable, technically sound, tough and experienced prospect that loves playing the game of football. His versatility as a long-snapper also adds to his draft value. McGlynn may wind up becoming a good value in the middle of Day 2 as a reserve that could back up right tackle and both guard spots in the NFL.

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            • 46 picks in 2 hours and 15 minutes.

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              • Danny Woodhead? the guy they are talking about now? I'd take him --sounds like another Travis Jervey to me.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by imscott72
                  Originally posted by Fosco33
                  Originally posted by imscott72
                  Originally posted by cap360
                  what di we give up to move up?
                  It appears we swapped 4th rounders with the Jets..
                  Packers.com is not updated yet. ESPN shows us still owning the 113, 128 and 135 picks.
                  nfl.com was scrolling the Jets in our 113 slot now..

                  But we had to give up more than that. We moved up 11 spots. I'm wondering what it cost us.
                  So we traded our #30 for the Jets #36 and #113. (So Jets used a 4th rounder to move up 6 spots to late 1st Round).

                  Then the Pack trades the newly acquired 113 (from the Jets) for the Jets 102 for a 162. (So Pack used a 5th to move up 11 spots in 4th Round).

                  Pack gave #30 and #162 for #36 and #102. 620+26.6 for 540+92 - losing out a little bit on this trade (value of a high 7th rounder).
                  The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                  Vince Lombardi

                  "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                  • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Has anyone done the point comparisons on our two trades?
                    The Packers always lose out a little.

                    Trading down with Jets in the 2nd round was 80 points but they got 62 back.

                    It costs by the chart but that's how to entice the trade.

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                    • Originally posted by Fosco33
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Originally posted by imscott72
                      Originally posted by Fosco33
                      Originally posted by imscott72
                      Originally posted by cap360
                      what di we give up to move up?
                      It appears we swapped 4th rounders with the Jets..
                      Packers.com is not updated yet. ESPN shows us still owning the 113, 128 and 135 picks.
                      nfl.com was scrolling the Jets in our 113 slot now..

                      But we had to give up more than that. We moved up 11 spots. I'm wondering what it cost us.


                      So we traded our #30 for the Jets #36 and #113. (So Jets used a 4th rounder to move up 6 spots to late 1st Round).

                      Then the Pack trades the newly acquired 113 (from the Jets) for the Jets 102 for a 162. (So Pack used a 5th to move up 11 spots in 4th Round).

                      Pack gave #30 and #162 for #36 and #102. 620+26.6 for 540+92 - losing out a little bit on this trade (value of a high 7th rounder).


                      Interesting. Thanks for doing the math!

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                      • Bears trade down.....

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                        • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                          Thompson is another so called "need" pick. At least I call it a need pick. I wasn't happy with the overall play at defensive end last year, especially after week 12. They got nothing on the left side with Jenkins and KGB after the Dallas game.
                          Sounds like a long shot that he will better than Jenkins.

                          I think its more of a flyer pick than a need pick.
                          I didn't comment that he was going to be better or worse. That is stupid, I don't know the guy from Adam. I didn't comment that Jordy Nelson was going to be better than any wide outs on the roster currently, I didn't comment if Brohm would be better than Rodgers, same goes for Lee. I don't think these picks are made to replace anyone in particular. At least not in 2008. Nelson could and probably will take the place of either Robinson or Martin, most likely Robinson, but that is just because of the overall numbers already at the position.

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                          • Phins take OG Murphy:

                            Strengths: Is tall with good bulk for his frame. Displays quick feet. Gets set quickly in pass pro and shows the ability to mirror and slide versus quicker pass rushers. Has a quick first step and can consistently get in position as a run blocker. Displays good range and can hit the moving target on the second level.

                            Weaknesses: Is too much of a finesse player. Is not physical or tough enough for our liking. Lacks explosive power and does not show the ability to jar defenders with his hand punch. Does not get enough of a push in the run game. Needs to improve his footwork and hand placement. Awareness in pass pro is inconsistent. Plays with a narrow base and struggles to anchor versus more powerful bull rushers.

                            Overall: Murphy went on a religious mission in Brazil from 2003-04. He enrolled and played one season at Dixie State CC in 2005. He transferred to Utah State in 2006 and went on to start in all 24 games for the Aggies as a junior and senior. A high school defensive end, Murphy played at left tackle in '06 before being moved to left guard in '07. He is the son of former Atlanta Braves outfielder Dale Murphy. Murphy played tackle at Utah State but projects as a guard in the NFL. He is a position-and-wall-off type blocker with good size and agility but marginal strength and toughness. Murphy has late-round value as a developmental project for teams willing to sacrifice power for agility.

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                            • Finely Bio :

                              Compares To: RANDY McMICHAEL-St. Louis … Some compare him to Browns' tight end Kellen Winslow, but Finley lacks the burst and explosion off the snap that Winslow displays when eating up the defender's cushion. Finley will bring instant value in a double-tight end package, as he can line up in the slot, wide or in motion. He lacks the bulk and strength to be a punishing blocker, but has the frame to eventually develop. He might have the best hands of any tight end in this draft.

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                              • jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

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